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Dinkytuff
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death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Somewhere they even gave the formula they will use. Age÷?

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Remember these words ....Federal Coordinating Council for comparative Effectiveness Research.
And by and by Christopher Robin came to an end of things, and he was silent, and he sat there, looking out over the world, just wishing it wouldn't stop.

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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Somewhere they even gave the formula they will use. Age÷?

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Yes, they took it out of Obama's take-over bill and hid it in the stimulus.
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
The way i read it its not a death panel of people, but its formula.

Its going to be an AI death panel.

And thats doom for sure.
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Come on guys it is not all that bad. At least the elders get a pain pill to be comfortable. Barry has a soft side.ohappy
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Remember these words ....Federal Coordinating Council for comparative Effectiveness Research.
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Come on guys it is not all that bad. At least the elders get a pain pill to be comfortable. Barry has a soft side.
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Yeah but it's cranial.

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Come on guys it is not all that bad. At least the elders get a pain pill to be comfortable. Barry has a soft side.
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Yeah but it's cranial.

:brain:
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Somewhere they even gave the formula they will use. Age÷?

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Yes, they took it out of Obama's take-over bill and hid it in the stimulus.
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It's still in Obama-care, they just hid it. When you have 2700 pages of legalese bull-shit, you can hide anything. If you search hard enough, you will find three places that say any health care professional can put a chip in you (with or without your knowledge). It doesn't even have to be a doctor! If you let someone put a needle in you, you better trust them with your life. You can ask about the chip, but that does not mean they will tell you the truth. RFID chips can be read with any scanner, so all your medical information would be available to anyone. Look for the Youtube video called Ordering a Pizza in the future.
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
I hate Obama, but would support him if his put in govt paid public euthanasia
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I hate Obama, but would support him if his put in govt paid public euthanasia
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would you be a first one??
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Is it the same formula they use in the UK? They euthanized ove r 100, 000 last year.
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Somewhere they even gave the formula they will use. Age÷?

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 Quoting: Dinkytuff


Yes, they took it out of Obama's take-over bill and hid it in the stimulus.
 Quoting: anonimalle


It's still in Obama-care, they just hid it. When you have 2700 pages of legalese bull-shit, you can hide anything. If you search hard enough, you will find three places that say any health care professional can put a chip in you (with or without your knowledge). It doesn't even have to be a doctor! If you let someone put a needle in you, you better trust them with your life. You can ask about the chip, but that does not mean they will tell you the truth. RFID chips can be read with any scanner, so all your medical information would be available to anyone. Look for the Youtube video called Ordering a Pizza in the future.
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I think I'm about to invest in a nice suit of armor. And eat only bark from trees that are deep in the wild. And probably hole up in a man-made cave. Yeah...that all sounds really good...cause they aren't making a trackable slave outta me.
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"Liverpool Pathway" it's called in the UK...
The imported Nigerian nurses withhold food and water...
You fade away... until the bed is free for the next one.damned

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LCP has continued to be controversial. It has been claimed that elderly patients were admitted to hospital for emergency treatment and put on LCP without documented proof that the patient wanted it, or could not recover from their health problem pennywise sheep sheep sheep
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Remember these words ....Federal Coordinating Council for comparative Effectiveness Research.
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ya'll just now figured this out????
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Is it the same formula they use in the UK? They euthanized ove r 100, 000 last year.
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FUCK

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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
A retarded "Death Panel" topic citing an article from 2009 quoting that Oklahoma moron Tom Coburn.




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Is it the same formula they use in the UK? They euthanized ove r 100, 000 last year.
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FUCK

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And thanks to the same bill, there is a 3.4% sales tax on EVERY HOME starting January 1, 2013. Guess what?

You almost absolutely need a good realtor to sell your home these days due to the flooded market. They get a commission, too. They earn it. Their commission, even cut, along with the broker commission, along with the new sales tax and throw in closing costs:

It is literally going to cost you money to sell your house. No more profit. "The dream of the American home": Rich Dad, Poor Dad guy-formerly labeled as a 'snake-oil salesman' was right; your home is now a liability thanks to Obamacare, of all things.
You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE.

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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Where's the formula?
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Where's the formula?
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it will be a WHO based schema:

A potentially life-limiting or life-threatening condition and . . .

Primary Criteria

 The ‘‘surprise question’’: You would not be surprised if the patient died within 12 months or before adulthood

 Frequent admissions (e.g., more than one admission for same condition within several months)

 Admission prompted by difficult-to-control physical or psychological damned symptoms (e.g., moderate-to-severe symptom
intensity for more than 24–48 hours)

 Complex care requirements (e.g., functional dependency; complex home support for ventilator/antibiotics/feedings)

 Decline in function, feeding intolerance, or unintended decline in weight (e.g., failure to thrive)

Secondary Criteria

 Admission from long-term care facility or medical foster home

Elderly patient, cognitively impaired, with acute hip fracture

 Metastatic or locally advanced incurable cancer

 Chronic home oxygen use

 Out-of-hospital cardiac arrest

 Current or past hospice program enrollee

 Limited social support (e.g., family stress, chronic mental illness)

 No history of completing an advance care planning discussion/document



So if Granny breaks a hip, or the family are trailer trash... she's off to the care home in the sky...

lala
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
Thank you hf

I can't necessarily extrapolate "death panel" from "palliative care" (see definition), except in the light of a "GHS" whereby obviously keeping costs down is of utmost importance.
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Thank you hf

I can't necessarily extrapolate "death panel" from "palliative care" (see definition), except in the light of a "GHS" whereby obviously keeping costs down is of utmost importance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813


I deleted the references on the above criteria which have:

(c) "These indicators are included based on a consensus panel opinion."

hf

An old friend of mine was bumped off this way... by rude nurses in the UK. The government then got a good chunk of 'inheritance tax' to spend on errr... government things
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Thank you hf

I can't necessarily extrapolate "death panel" from "palliative care" (see definition), except in the light of a "GHS" whereby obviously keeping costs down is of utmost importance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813


I deleted the references on the above criteria which have:

(c) "These indicators are included based on a consensus panel opinion."

hf

An old friend of mine was bumped off this way... by rude nurses in the UK. The government then got a good chunk of 'inheritance tax' to spend on errr... government things
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OMG - so sorry :(
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Re: death panel in stimulus bill WTF?
the human population has become unmanageable with 7 billion useless eaters

most people don't produce enough and are not economically valuable enough to justify their own existence

add to that finite resources on the planet and you get not a nice future

it's about time they passed this provision
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the human population has become unmanageable with 7 billion useless eaters

most people don't produce enough and are not economically valuable enough to justify their own existence

add to that finite resources on the planet and you get not a nice future

it's about time they passed this provision
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20472911


Don't worry, in a generation or two we humans will be in negative growth... and falling fast, as the world embraces modern agricultural poison and retardation as the norm.

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I hate Obama, but would support him if his put in govt paid public euthanasia
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would you be a first one??
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no need, I'm an Exit Guide & have everything I need, always have a plan b
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Trying to find a link. This is a pdf . But it has the QLY formula.

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Last Edited by Dinkytuff on 10/04/2012 10:32 PM
And by and by Christopher Robin came to an end of things, and he was silent, and he sat there, looking out over the world, just wishing it wouldn't stop.

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