NWO Believers Also Believe in God??

Your book won't solve anything. It never has and never will. It has, however, contributed to millions of deaths.

I've conveyed my message, and I will continue to live in peace.

You bible-thumper religiards keep living your duality, and plunge the world further into this madness you have created.

The madness comes from the atheistic NWO world revolution 1776-ILLUMINATI

Jeez, so many posts I read. And Flashlight, thank you for the support, you rock ^_^

Ok here is the thing. I EMBRACE new age thinking and progressiveness yet I oppose the New World Order. WIll it destroy religion? Yes, it will. But unfortunately, you bible-thumpers are actually helping the NWO by believing in God. The NWO has direct control of the Vatican and not only that, but it endorses the belief in God. See, if people believe in a God, they will be distracted from worldly affairs and will be distracted from what the conspirators are planning to do.

Wake up! The same people that established Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire are the same people who will establish the Fascist New World Order. I do believe religion should be eliminated from the world, but the NWO will impose a humanitarian "religion" in the name of the STATE. What does that mean? It means that you bible-thumpers are supporting the very institutions that will become absorbed into the NWO!!!

Also, you bible-thumpers are right wing extremists it seems for the most part. And it has direct links to such horrendous organizations such as the terrorist Patriot Movement. You are making lef-wing non-theistic thinkers such as myself look very bad. I do NOT want people like you supporting these NWO theories even though they are true. Get God out of it and get your head on straight!!!

It is hard to reason with them. Their premise is based on a different reality than you and I. Communication is impossible.

The Vatican's NWO is anti-Bible. The Bible has never supported Rome's empire. They are antichrist.

There are many religions allied with; under the Vatican's control, not the Bible or God. They have no control over the Bible.

The NWO ATHEIST brainwashing began with the French Revolution.

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You've been brainwashed by the atheist NWO with retarded evolution theories.

Christians are the ones who have rejected the state indoctrination and MSM programming.

Rome's empire created the Bible under Constantine. Council of Nicea.

The goal was to control the population.

No they are the very essence of MSM programming. Almost every bibletard's homepage is fox news.

Your ego is massive.
Humble yourself.
You are not as smart as you think you are.

Claim: "Rome's empire created the Bible under Constantine. Council of Nicea."

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No they did not. Catholics like to believe this but the truth is the books of the Bible were in use by Nazarene Christians since they were completed in the 1st century.

Who wrote the NT books and when?

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I didn't say they wrote it, I said they created it. They compiled it at that council. Then they burned all the other books they didn't agree with, including the library of Alexandria.

I dont watch teevee, but it is safe to say most of the world does, whether they are Christian or not. The question is, does the TV claim God created the world, or does it claim we are a result of retarded evolution pagan beliefs? Christians whether they watch this drivel or not, reject the evotarded propaganda put out by the NWO day in/out. NWO Masonic-Marxism is atheistic and irreligion. Whether You and the Feminist claim to be anti-NWO or not, you do hold the same agenda they do since you were educated/inoctrinated by them.

Evolution and Marxism

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On 1 May 1776 Adam Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists". He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Though the Order was not egalitarian or democratic, its mission was the abolition of all monarchical governments and state religions in Europe and its colonies.

Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform. Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human" nature through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Freemasonry.
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They hired Marx & Engels!

"We must war against all prevailing ideas of religion, of the state, of country, of patriotism. The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed." - Karl Marx

Well as you and everybody will find out sooner or later...

the PTB can't wait to destroy Christians. The right hand 'Luciferi' pretty much believe the exact opposite of discerning Christians. We believe in the same constructs but not constructors. Or whom is the constructor(s).

Just to inform you, you spent over half your post explaining your opinion on Christianity. Nobody really cares...

You're projecting onto me things that aren't true. You simply can't accept that I wasn't indoctrinated by the NWO agenda and yet I don't accept the Bible. It's as simple as that. Keep trying to demonize me, it will only serve the duality you worship.

Honest questions for you..

You know all this history about the bible how? Who told you this? And where did this information come from?


So I agree it is not easy to trust or have faith. I see your view and know where you are coming from. But I personally have a hard time believing that an all knowing Creator would simply drop His most intelligent creation off at the pool and then walk away to let them fend for themselves in some primordial test tube experiment.

There is a reason things are as they are today and most churches do not teach the complete Truth so that we might better understand why.

These men chasing the NWO, they have a master that goes back to the very beginning and even before what most studied Christians understand. This master is in charge of this world as it is today and has four hidden dynasties going back to almost the beginning that he uses to control and manipulate mankind.

These dynasties are all manner of:

Politics
Economics
Education
Religion (this includes Abrahamic faiths, new age, atheism, and eastern philosophies) all of them

Now I will tell you this, you can believe it or not but I am not here to bullshit with you. But there was a time myself when I was neck deep into metaphysical. new age teaching and worked quite hard to develop a spiritual sense, third eye, or better yet enhanced psychic capability if you will.

I saw many things over time, until one evening I saw moloch or something like him in spirit. These things are very real, very evil, and wish you to lose your soul by making you turn away from our True Creator which is Almighty God.

My suggestion would be not be to judge Christianity on its history or what the vast majority of Christian churches teach today. I would suggest that you seek the Truth first before giving up what essentially is your own crown.

A shitstorm is coming and he is coming soon as everyone's god. You would do good to know how things really are before all flesh is lost.

I've said enough. But like I said I fully understand your position because I have been there in many ways.

Edit to Add: Yes they monkied with the bible. But in the KJV God still gets the job done. Again most churches dont teach right and that is due to that evil ones manipulation. It is supposed to be this way. Everyone needs to figure out why.

This is pathetic. You people believe you are simple Christians but in reality you represent a small extremist group who is dangerous to society with your archaic beliefs based on nothing but fanaticism.

The Catholic Church added and destroyed certain books of the Bible under the rule of the Roman Empire. This is a fact. They successfully trickled it down into Protestantism and successfully brainwashed you extremist few.

At least the NWO and I can agree that you all deny simple logic and can easily be manipulated. It is sad to see. You have the capability to become enlightened but you refuse it. Like a cow denying its mother's milk.

Fact of the matter is this:


Mainstream Christianity has nothing to do with YHVH or Yashua the Christ. OK? They do not serve Him. He has not sent them.

They establish themselves in power using His Name and His Being but they are NOT His People.
You must understand this.

The vatican has absolutely nothing to do with YHVH. It is an institution built in Lucifer's name. Lucifer has replaced YHVH in this world. The churches serve Lucifer. Lucifer has imitated Yashua and impersonated him for so long that people can no longer tell the difference.

A part of me believes that some of you know this deep inside yet you struggle on to fight against YHVH no matter what the truth is. The conflict is within yourselves and not with the Almighty Creator.

People USE the bible to further their own agenda!
The 1611 KJV bible is "dangerous" to a lot of you people.
Not because it "starts wars" but because it enlightens the lost.
It scares you new age people to death.
Admit it... YOU ARE IN FEAR.


The NWO is not "new" at all.
It is an ancient order being brought back to life.
All of the churches, schools, prisons, corporations, banks, armies, and leaders of the world are subject unto their god Lucifer.

They worship him and soon he will be here imitating Yashua and claiming to be The Almighty and you will all eat of of his hand... like the cattle you are.

You all think you're so smart.
The Four Dynasties have done their job because you're all well indoctrinated in the ways of the new world order.


Soon.. the Almighty will return to crush it and all of you that oppose Him.

JEREMIAH

23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

23:4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.

23:11 For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD.

23:12 Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the LORD.



23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.




23:17 They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

23:18 For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it?

23:19 Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.

23:20 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.

23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

23:25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

23:26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;

23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

23:28 The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.

23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?

23:30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.

23:31 Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.

23:32 Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.

23:33 And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.

Finally somebody produces a coherent argument. I'm impressed. And you may be right,they may very well worship Lucifer and set up that religion. They may very well oppose God. But here's my addition to this. They fear and oppose God, meaning they believe in God correct? Why on earth does that mean that he exists? Lucifer certainly does not exist either just because these people think they do.

But at least you are thinking logically and coherently. I respect that, so have your belief, that actually doesn't bother me at all because you use logic to come to your conclusion and are aware of many true facts.

Ace, he's the same AC that has been perpetuating the same fallacy over and over and over.

You can't reason with him. He will only quote you sayings from his book.

That's right, I will not conform to your new age doctrines. I will not be persuaded to join you in your state of confusion. THE HOLY BOOK has all I need in it.

Thanks, though.

No new age here. Release your spirit from the confusion you're in and you'll be good to go.

Your book I'm sure will serve you well.

Thanks, though.

It has saved my life. I am grateful to Him.
The book is no burden on my life.




HABUKKUK 1:3 Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention.

1:4 Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.

1:5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvelously: for I will work a work in your days which ye will not believe, though it be told you.

Ace and flash you're both quite confident in yourselves. Yet neither of you answered some well-thought out questions that were posed to you above regarding the reality of this world's evils (nuclear radiation, wars, etc.).

You provide no comeback nor witty statement but rather choose to ignore and attack (to distract from the topic)... so that it becomes apparent that you don't know the answers... and you have no clue as to how to fix these real issues nor can you successfully address them with your new age philosophies or thinking.

Have you ever considered the fact that there is no quick fix? That the answers start with truth and not duality? You need to start somewhere, and that is to see the world as it is, and not how your religions tell you to see it. The answers to the world's problems lie in the discovery of who you are and not who you are told to be. Then everything will take its natural course and fall into place.

You're too hung up on labeling us "new age", when in fact this reasoning has its roots that predates yours. You are the one who is in fact "new age." You're too hung up on judging and condemning others with a different opinion.

You are in fact the one without a clue and will continue to persecute those who don't worship your God. You will continue to live in error and continue wars and continue to judge people and live a life of duality and fear.

Now you sound like you're crying. LOL
You've placed the labels upon yourself.
So stop whining.

We don't need any more of your new age doctrines.

No one here has claimed to follow a "religion".
Did you know that YHVH did not form religions?
Men formed the religions you see today.
While using the BIBLE as their authority.
YHVH did not send them nor did He instruct them to do it.

You WILL NOT find any mention of "religion" in the Word of God... only the TRUTH of YHVH's Word.

But what would you know about it?!
You don't read it.
You don't research it.
You don't learn it.
All you do is repeat, almost verbatim, what you've heard from all your fruitcake new age mystics and philosophers.

They start wars using the Name of the Lord.
They murder and kill in the Name of the Lord.
He did not send them.

That is why He is returning with a FIRE....
And He will BURN UP everything in this sick world.
Including His enemies.
See that you're not one of them.




DEUTERONOMY 32:37 And He shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,

32:38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.

32:39 See now that I, even I, am He, and there is no god with Me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

32:40 For I lift up My hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

32:41 If I whet My glittering sword, and Mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to Mine enemies, and will reward them that hate Me.

32:42 I will make Mine arrows drunk with blood, and My sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.

32:43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with His people: for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and will render vengeance to His adversaries, and will be merciful unto His land, and to His people.






REVELATION 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war.

19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself.

19:13 And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God.

19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

19:15 And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

19:16 And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.





Yashua was here the first time around to bring salvation. When He returns, He will bring a FIRE with Him and no amount of whining and crying will be enough to save you from His wrath. Repent while you still can.

Without a non-violent revolution of consciousness, our civilization will destroy itself.

You can't open a door, walk through it and magically become another person. I hate to break it to you, but your fairy tale will never happen.

You sound hysterical. Perhaps it's time for you to take a breather from this discussion?

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We had the books before the RC ever existed!

Who wrote the NT books and when?

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KJV History


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When they were written is not in dispute. There were a lot of texts around at the time, and the RCC just put the ones together that fit their agenda. And this is the Bible today as you know it.