NWO Believers Also Believe in God??

the NWO has been stopped. The lost 3 keys of freemasonry have been found: Our Lady is God,Christ is God and not coming back,and the Holy Ghost. The NWO is brought about when this knowledge is lost. The NWO is nightmare scenario. Think aushwitz but 100 billion times worse.

God? its some kind of food?

RC did not decide the books; they accepted the books already in use by Nazarene Christians, then added to them. The RC are Alexandrian Gnostics.

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The Council of Nicaea met in 325 A.D, assembled at the command of the Roman Emperor Constantine, and met to address the heresies of a man whose name was Arius.

The Council of Nicaea did not actually make the original decision about which books were to be part of the Bible. What the councils did do was not so much decide, as agree with what had already been decided and was already in practice in the churches all over the world.

The Roman Catholic Church would have you believe that all local churches and congregations were in chaos having all sorts of books in their churches and considering them as scripture, being deceived until in 325 A.D. the Catholic Church finally gets it right comes in and restores order.

The Catholic Church was not even around, and early Nazarene Christianity was flourishing. It was flourishing so much that in dozens of places in the Roman Empire, Christians were building underground cities called catacombs - in order to survive the persecutions that Satan was inspiring and directing through the Roman Emperors.

Remember at the time of the Council of Nicaea that the Roman Catholic Church Hierarchy did not yet exist. It did not have that little piece of real estate in the Vatican until after 325 A.D. It was after the Council of Nicaea that the Emperor set up the Catholic Church.

But the Roman Emperor Constantine who worshipped the Sun God knew that he was having trouble gaining legitimacy amongst Christians. He craved this and sought out Eusebius to see how to make this happen. Eusebius suggested a council of all of the independent Christian churches within the Roman Empire, and Constantine agreed.

1) the church council did not "decide" the Canon of the Bible, they rather AFFIRMED/CONFIRMED the Canon.

2) the books known as the Apocrypha were not accepted as part of Scripture.

3) the history of the Catholic Church is that the longer she continues, the greater her heresies become. She continues to accumulate untruth as time progresses. The more that the Catholic Church continues in time, the greater her reliance on apocryphal books. It had to be that way, because the 66 books of the regular and true Bible in no way justified the doctrines that the Catholic Church was teaching.

4) for this reason, the Roman Catholic Church has tried to uphold the supposed Canonicity of the Apocrypha. They did not succeed in doing this until the Council of Trent, when they finally came out and said that the books of the Apocrypha would be treated as Holy Scripture itself. That was a departure from the historical books of the Bible, and a departure from history, and a departure from treating the apocryphal books as not being part of the Canon of Scripture. In other words, 1500 years after Jesus died (and rose again), the Roman Catholic Church decided to change which books should be included in the Bible.

Taken from the book: Canon of the Old and New Testament


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What you referenced is just false mainstream history. The evidence speaks for itself. Try thinking for yourself for a change while you're at it.

During the first three hundred years after Jesus’ death, there was a split in Christianity. This was at a time when Emperor Constantine chose Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire. In both versions of Christianity, the trinity (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) was used to express the basic principles of the religion. In each version, the Father represented consciousness, the Son reason or thinking, and the Holy Ghost represented creativity (a piece of God within you).

The “Gnostic” Christians believed that thinking was a process used by consciousness to communicate and to plan your activities, etc. It must always be balanced with creativity so that the thinking process does not become rigid.

This was expressed as “The Bridal Chamber”, in which the bride (creativity) and groom (thinking) were united and balanced within the larger space of the room (pure consciousness). And so they explained that the Father “begets” the “Son” and is not the same as the “Son”.

The “Apostolic” Christians believed that thinking is the same as consciousness – that there is no other state of consciousness than thinking. Creativity is also thinking. Everything is thinking. They expressed this as the Son IS the Father or “Jesus is God”.

Emperor Constantine called for a conference in the city of Nicaea in 323 AD to settle these differences. The emperor set himself up as the moderator. Now, using our thinking minds to good advantage, which version would an empire, needing to keep control over vast numbers of people of many different cultures, choose as the “correct” version of Christianity? If thinking was the only version of consciousness considered legitimate, and the Roman Empire and the Apostolics provided a list of approved thoughts, then that inconvenient factor of creativity could be eliminated.

It is easier to control people whose minds all conform.

Last Edited by flashlight on 10/06/2012 03:03 PM

Can you deny the following facts about the Bible (which by the way no other book in history comes even close in comparison)?:

I. Uniqueness
- only book that tells us God's name and through which we get to know Him; we learn of his activities past, present and future; we learn what pleases Him and what displeases Him

II. Wise Advice
- only book that provides solid wise advice that has trascended generations (it's just as practical today as when it was written) and geographical and sociological boundaries in all areas of human life/interaction including: marriage, children, entertainment, industriousness, honesty, morality

III. Evidence
- only book that stands alone as far as: internal harmony, scientific accuracy, power to transform lives, unusual candor of its writers, prophecies fulfilled, historical soundness, answers to life's toughest questions (eg, where did we come from? why are we here? why is there so much suffering? is there hope for dead loved ones? does God care? etc)

Not to mention people's willingness to die for what they learn/believe in from the Bible (and I'm not talking about killing others and therefore dieing but willing to die in the sense of not budging on their integrity in the face of opposition even to death) or people making drastic changes in their lives to help others come to learn these truths, etc.

These few points are indisputable... with millions of people from all walks of life and from every nation attesting to these points... regardless of how much you sit there and try to deny them.

Can you say the same for body of beliefs you advocate?

For you see... not all who believe in the Bible are unknowledgeable regarding it as you appear to conclude. Some of us have spent more than just a few hours looking it over superficially... in some cases many years studying and meditating on a daily/weekly basis... getting to know the deeper things of God, getting into the meat of God's Word if you will.... not that that makes us any better than anybody else... I'm not boasting about it (but even if I were I'd have God's backing). This isn't about me (I'm not making the same self-centered mistake you seem to be) - it's about the Father and all others that He wishes to bring into the fold. It's not up to us (believers) to determine that.

But like I mentioned in a previous post, it is written "faith is not a possession of all"... however, some have given in to their groundless denial... they've put away pride and superfluous arrogance and given the Creator a chance... at times life tends to change us... something hits us personally that we didn't expect... and we start looking for answers... there's always hope for you flash and Ace (and others who are still on the fence or even some of you hardcore bashers).

Just gotta get past that pesky part of our personality that makes us think we're indeed superior to others...

"At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes." Matthew 11:25

peace :P

Well I have come to the conclusion that you people cannot be reasoned with. You denied reason a long time ago it seems and it's not coming back, clearly. Anyway, Flashlight and I have cited various references in history that blatantly disprove your hysterical theories. You all are so self-righteous that you acre actually convinced that this God will burn everybody that does not believe what you so-called enlightened few believe. The point is, the only reference you people cite is the Bible. As if it is absolute truth. Because some men wrote stories in a Bible, you actually blindly and fanatically believe it. What about the Qur'an, what about the Torah, what about the damn thousands of Hindu texts?? Those people cite those as absolute truth just as vehemently as you cite the Bible.

Religious belief is not some divine truth. It's generally simply an issue of your geographical location and what you've been exposed to.

Claim: "The point is, the only reference you people cite is the Bible. As if it is absolute truth."
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LIES!

Do you deny the existence of the state of Israel and Jerusalem and long history of the Israelites, yes or no?

Why dont You stop obsessing over other people's belief in God.

The irreligion revolution is a Marxist NWO agenda and it has killed many millions since 1775.

Do you deny the existence Karl Marx Engels and Marxism?

Ace... that's what I've been trying to tell ya... don't bunch all of us together (just like you don't like it when some bunch you together with other gnostics and such)... I agree with you there... hellfire is a false teaching that dishonors the God of the Bible.

However, as for the other supposed holy books you mention... none that you mention comes close to the Bible as to the points stated above. The biblical truth that I advocate is one that is encompassing the globe... unity of worship... maybe some day you'll see what I mean.

Time is short.. use it wisely.

I believe in the only order that there is, which unfolds from within the source of emanation.

I also believe in a 'Neo-Civilization'; which isn't necessarily new; but ancient & futuristic simultaneously.

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This "God" to which you refer is what I identify as the Demiurge. Him and his Archons are running the show. He is the god of the OT, while Jesus's true teachings were hijacked at the advent of the NT.

Do you really think an omnipotent/omniscient God really needed to ask Adam where he was when he hid himself in the garden?

My creator resides outside of duality. I'm done arguing. Good day, good discussion.

You're an idiot. There is no reasoning with you, troll. Go find another leg to hump.

Seriously? Do you honestly think He didn't know where Adam was? Come on man... give the Creator a bit more credit than that. It's called questioning to allow a person an opportunity to explain themselves... heck even murderers caught in the act are questioned (or what a parent would do with their teenager who's been caught doing what they shouldn't be and the parent asking the child "What are you doing?").

You ought to spend a little more time learning what the Bible says about Him... then maybe you wouldn't be making such baseless statements.

"And there is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting." Hebrews 4:13

The ones in power are fake Christians. Many Christians vote on faith alone. So they are trying to hijack those voters. I myself am a Christian, but I see through the NWO's plans.

And yet you practice this exact reasoning.

The troll/idiot is the one with no evidence - You. You cant reason with facts.

"We must war against all prevailing ideas of religion, of the state, of country, of patriotism. The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed." - Karl Marx

Your "evidence" was planted. Jam you're a formidable troll. I should stop feeding you.

Why did you write that, OP? Hey, tell you what. Find a box. And try to step out of it, okey doke?

No, Karl Marx is very real. Thus it is You who is the troll.

Get off your NWO Marxist irreligion revolution!

Read the US Constitution First Amendment (and most other countries) Freedom of Religion. It is a fundamental freedom.

There is no reasoning with you. I spelled out reason in many of my posts, but evidently they went way over your head.

Get off your religitard crowd control revolution!

Jam you have no critical thinking skills. You copy and paste garbage from other web sites and pawn shillage reasoning as your own. Your mind is manipulated beyond help.

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In the event, when and however it happens, will be contained all religious prophecies AND the unadulterated scientific truth.
One point in time, towards which we're speeding up, and to which all the theories, philosophies and beliefs will converge to form reality.

Websites with books? So now you are advocating illiteracy? That's the only way you can sell your stupidity.

It's no secret Marx was anti-religion. So were his Illuminati NWO backers. Here's one of those books by Marx:

Manifesto of the Communist Party
by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels
1848 (excerpt)

The French Revolution, for example, abolished feudal property in favor of bourgeois property.

The distinguishing feature of communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.

In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.

Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.

The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality.

The charges against communism made from a religious, a philosophical and, generally, from an ideological standpoint, are not deserving of serious examination.

"There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience."

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution!
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Notice the similarities with the Illuminati:


On 1 May 1776 Adam Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists". He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Though the Order was not egalitarian or democratic, its mission was the abolition of all monarchical governments and state religions in Europe and its colonies.

Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform. Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human" nature through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Freemasonry.
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So this learned war on religion is a NWO Marxist agenda.


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Perhaps the war on religion is a NWO Marxist agenda. Good for them. My personal war on it is that it puts power in the hands of the few. Unlike you, I am able to make a choice based on reason. But sadly, you just think I'm part of this huge agenda. So you put words into my mouth and attribute all this nonsense to me, etc.

You clearly won't listen to reason. You have no thoughts of your own. But by all means, keep living under that rock of yours. The foam on your mouth is also showing when you thump that bible of yours that you follow with blind faith.

Last Edited by flashlight on 10/09/2012 04:56 PM

I'm not sure why anyone thinks that the NWO is at all Marxist. My views line up very closely with Marxism, yet I think the NWO must be stopped. They are fascist, not Marxist. If they were Marxist, they would create a classless society with no government, yet the NWO will certainly have a government, and quite an oppressive one, very similar to Nazism.

NWO believers in God - because the NWO are satanists. They are masonic pentagram worshipping luciferians by their own admission. The same founded the Church of Satan. It is all very real.

They run Fascism that created Marxism that uses the hegelian dialectic of Capitalism vs Communism -- all ran by the Fascist.