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To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....

 
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Lots of words that practically went nowhere.

Sorry man, but, the owner of this site is a CONSERVATIVE. The mods on this site are also CONSERVATIVE.

I'm not for sure who you THINK you're fooling, but it ain't me...

And if you LOVED busting lies so much and brought forth so much truth, then this site would be the FIRST to know that the left right paradigm is a wash and that BOTH candidates are owned by the same bank.

So...if it was dedicated towards truth, it keeps letting a HUGE ONE right through the cracks.

SAVE IT FOR THOSE YOU CAN FOOL. Which, on this site, MIGHT be many...

Last Edited by Serenity777 on 10/04/2012 10:42 PM
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^

So when will GLPers realize the game is up?

Both parties are loaded with One World Government puppets.

Why are you choosing one Puppet over the other Puppet?

Speak up, speak out. A vote for Romney, as is a vote for

Obama... a vote for Tyranny and U.N. One World Government.
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You lost me the moment you personified GLP as you. GLP, c'est moi. When in fact it is thousands of posters. You can corral that flock and use them as a background noise to say what you yourself are all about. That's okay. But dont expect to be taken seriously. If may want to identify with what may be termed "right wingers" (whatever that means), whether people who openly sympathize with Nazis or neo Nazi ideology or who are just plain old Republican partisans urging to vote Romney, then that's okay, too,, and a good portion on GLP are of that simplistic type. However, if you wish to label fiercely independent anti totalitarian types (the largest GLP cohort IMO) as right wingers and claim them as your own, beware, an outsider could very well label them anywhere on the left/right paradigm and you would be wrong to claim them as right wing and your own...
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


What??? scratching

You've got me confused on this one Trinity...but, I won't look a gift horse in the mouth.

I agree with nearly everything you said...so, something must have changed.
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....

Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
Goofy Thum
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This
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24207087


I have been here 8+ years and this is true. However, when the tide changes I dont change with it, I remain that crusty barnacled wooden piling fighting the current when the tide is strong and floating easy when its not. The question is: what kind of person changes their principals to conform to the majority around him?
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
As many have alluded over recent days and weeks (and months for that matter), it may appear that GLP is a right-wing shill site (today); however, I submit to you that GLP most definitely is not (after many years of reading and participating).

Most of the folks that contribute here regularly are conspiracy theorists, but in essence, we are seekers of truth. We research and read more than the average human, and through this research, we've gained a more informed perspective on things that may make us appear "crazy" in the eyes of "the norm." We have come to realize that truth no longer exists in the mainstream, that various agendas are continually afoot, and those that wish us harm (in one form or another) are working tirelessly to undermine our foundations in hopes of gaining more control for their own selfish ends. So, we come here to hopefully receive first-hand accounts of events before the media grabs them and skews them for mass consumption, and also call those media sources out on their lies whenever possible. In short, we're a somewhat fluid think-tank, comprised of very intelligent individuals that love truth, life, and debate.

Most of us are generally respectful of all humans, we love peace, and we fucking HATE liars. We want our children to grow up in a more favorable environment than we had, we want government and bureaucracy as much out of our lives as humanly possible (but also recognize its need), and we truly wish that all humans would simply get along and leave each other alone. We are realists though, acknowledging that evil and selfish greed truly exist in this world, so we utilize forums such as these to inform one another, gain additional perspective, and hopefully educate others not quite as well informed - in hopes of throwing a cog in the plans and momentum of the LIARS and Wanna-be Tyrants. If you will, this is our battle-ground (for now).

That said, the agenda of the current group of "radicals" (using whatever "fuckism" you want to label them with today) just so happens to be the latest "battle" we feel compelled to participate in. It is clear (even by MSM standards, who are now all but blatant about it) that these radical LIARS contemplate a takeover of the US and world using the same subversive techniques employed in Nazi Germany prior to WWII, and pretty much the same as those employed since the downfall of just about every civilization (if you read any history at all, you'd have to be an idiot not to see this). It also just so happens that the so-called "Oblabla" supporters appear to be behind many of the latest lies being used to promote this ideology, subverting what we (truth seekers) consider to be good and "right," and threatening our way of life in the US, as well as our children's futures; however, don't think for a minute that we are any more kind to a LIAR just because they might have an "R" by their name. In fact, many of us were just as critical of Bush during his last four years in office, and will be just as critical of Romney if he doesn't perform as promised (after he wins). Many of us also want to see most of our Congress and Judiciary removed from office, and start over with a clean slate - but we will take what we can get, when we can get it, and removing Obama and his Czars is priority #1 for now.

So, if you think this is a right-wing shill site, you couldn't be further from the truth. After reading and participating here for many years, I've learned that we simply LOVE to expose the truth, and watch the LIARS implode. So, my advice to you is to open your eyes and start reading objectively (with discernment of course, because there is a lot of bullshit here too) - instead of blindly spewing pre-programmed talking points or insults without substance, because you will be owned otherwise.

Thanks for reading, and feel free to add or expand as you wish. Particularly if you are a shill - we love shills.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Thats why when people say

"two parties, same masters"

Everyone tells them to stfu, gtfo.. and continues with their right-wing msm talking-points.

I tried to use your angle. It doesnt hold up. There is no conspiracy talk here anymore.
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
As many have alluded over recent days and weeks (and months for that matter), it may appear that GLP is a right-wing shill site (today); however, I submit to you that GLP most definitely is not (after many years of reading and participating).

Most of the folks that contribute here regularly are conspiracy theorists, but in essence, we are seekers of truth. We research and read more than the average human, and through this research, we've gained a more informed perspective on things that may make us appear "crazy" in the eyes of "the norm." We have come to realize that truth no longer exists in the mainstream, that various agendas are continually afoot, and those that wish us harm (in one form or another) are working tirelessly to undermine our foundations in hopes of gaining more control for their own selfish ends. So, we come here to hopefully receive first-hand accounts of events before the media grabs them and skews them for mass consumption, and also call those media sources out on their lies whenever possible. In short, we're a somewhat fluid think-tank, comprised of very intelligent individuals that love truth, life, and debate.

Most of us are generally respectful of all humans, we love peace, and we fucking HATE liars. We want our children to grow up in a more favorable environment than we had, we want government and bureaucracy as much out of our lives as humanly possible (but also recognize its need), and we truly wish that all humans would simply get along and leave each other alone. We are realists though, acknowledging that evil and selfish greed truly exist in this world, so we utilize forums such as these to inform one another, gain additional perspective, and hopefully educate others not quite as well informed - in hopes of throwing a cog in the plans and momentum of the LIARS and Wanna-be Tyrants. If you will, this is our battle-ground (for now).

That said, the agenda of the current group of "radicals" (using whatever "fuckism" you want to label them with today) just so happens to be the latest "battle" we feel compelled to participate in. It is clear (even by MSM standards, who are now all but blatant about it) that these radical LIARS contemplate a takeover of the US and world using the same subversive techniques employed in Nazi Germany prior to WWII, and pretty much the same as those employed since the downfall of just about every civilization (if you read any history at all, you'd have to be an idiot not to see this). It also just so happens that the so-called "Oblabla" supporters appear to be behind many of the latest lies being used to promote this ideology, subverting what we (truth seekers) consider to be good and "right," and threatening our way of life in the US, as well as our children's futures; however, don't think for a minute that we are any more kind to a LIAR just because they might have an "R" by their name. In fact, many of us were just as critical of Bush during his last four years in office, and will be just as critical of Romney if he doesn't perform as promised (after he wins). Many of us also want to see most of our Congress and Judiciary removed from office, and start over with a clean slate - but we will take what we can get, when we can get it, and removing Obama and his Czars is priority #1 for now.

So, if you think this is a right-wing shill site, you couldn't be further from the truth. After reading and participating here for many years, I've learned that we simply LOVE to expose the truth, and watch the LIARS implode. So, my advice to you is to open your eyes and start reading objectively (with discernment of course, because there is a lot of bullshit here too) - instead of blindly spewing pre-programmed talking points or insults without substance, because you will be owned otherwise.

Thanks for reading, and feel free to add or expand as you wish. Particularly if you are a shill - we love shills.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Thats why when people say

"two parties, same masters"

Everyone tells them to stfu, gtfo.. and continues with their right-wing msm talking-points.

I tried to use your angle. It doesnt hold up. There is no conspiracy talk here anymore.
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No my friend, there is still ONE conspiracy. And that is

what you mentioned, "two parties, same masters". Exposing

this truth, that BOTH Parties are controlled from the top,

is the one conspiracy that won't get much front page time

at GLP or ANY OTHER WEB SITE.
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
GLP isn't a right wing site, it just hates whatever is on top, and the left is on top right now when it comes to politics. Four years from now it will be the other way.
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GLP isn't a right wing site, it just hates whatever is on top, and the left is on top right now when it comes to politics. Four years from now it will be the other way.
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Four years from now we'll be eating beans and flour paste.

We are on the razors edge of disaster, regardless of which

Puppet gets to be "President".
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Lots of words that practically went nowhere.

Sorry man, but, the owner of this site is a CONSERVATIVE. The mods on this site are also CONSERVATIVE.

I'm not for sure who you THINK you're fooling, but it ain't me...

And if you LOVED busting lies so much and brought forth so much truth, then this site would be the FIRST to know that the left right paradigm is a wash and that BOTH candidates are owned by the same bank.

So...if it was dedicated towards truth, it keeps letting a HUGE ONE right through the cracks.

SAVE IT FOR THOSE YOU CAN FOOL. Which, on this site, MIGHT be many...
 Quoting: Serenity777


So, are you one that believes in anarchy or some form of utopian Marxist ideology? While I agree that our entire system has been somewhat usurped, and that both "parties" are becoming increasingly similar, I still believe in the ability of America to overcome any obstacle in our struggle to truly be free and independent. I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time. So, I'm unclear how you think I'm trying to mislead, or "fool you," but I assure you that I don't say anything without sincerity.

Regarding the mods being conservative, so what (if they truly are)? You're still allowed to speak your mind, and if you have a valid point you can support with fact, it is typically well received here (even though some or even all may still disagree with you, or have a different perspective).

So, help me understand why you feel shunned, and why you think we're full of it.

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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Lots of words that practically went nowhere.

Sorry man, but, the owner of this site is a CONSERVATIVE. The mods on this site are also CONSERVATIVE.

I'm not for sure who you THINK you're fooling, but it ain't me...

And if you LOVED busting lies so much and brought forth so much truth, then this site would be the FIRST to know that the left right paradigm is a wash and that BOTH candidates are owned by the same bank.

So...if it was dedicated towards truth, it keeps letting a HUGE ONE right through the cracks.

SAVE IT FOR THOSE YOU CAN FOOL. Which, on this site, MIGHT be many...
 Quoting: Serenity777


So, are you one that believes in anarchy or some form of utopian Marxist ideology? While I agree that our entire system has been somewhat usurped, and that both "parties" are becoming increasingly similar, I still believe in the ability of America to overcome any obstacle in our struggle to truly be free and independent. I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time. So, I'm unclear how you think I'm trying to mislead, or "fool you," but I assure you that I don't say anything without sincerity.

Regarding the mods being conservative, so what (if they truly are)? You're still allowed to speak your mind, and if you have a valid point you can support with fact, it is typically well received here (even though some or even all may still disagree with you, or have a different perspective).

So, help me understand why you feel shunned, and why you think we're full of it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I don't think Serenity777 is an anarchist or Marxist at all.

Why do you think so? Because he/she is aware of the

completely usurped Constitution and Republic form of

government?

"I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time." -- Really? Are you being facetious?
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Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
Goofy Thum
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


This
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24207087


I have been here 8+ years and this is true. However, when the tide changes I dont change with it, I remain that crusty barnacled wooden piling fighting the current when the tide is strong and floating easy when its not. The question is: what kind of person changes their principals to conform to the majority around him?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
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I have been here 8+ years and this is true. However, when the tide changes I dont change with it, I remain that crusty barnacled wooden piling fighting the current when the tide is strong and floating easy when its not. The question is: what kind of person changes their principals to conform to the majority around him?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24719572

Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
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We are right wing conservative and Christian and we are here to stay....bump
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Lots of words that practically went nowhere.

Sorry man, but, the owner of this site is a CONSERVATIVE. The mods on this site are also CONSERVATIVE.

I'm not for sure who you THINK you're fooling, but it ain't me...

And if you LOVED busting lies so much and brought forth so much truth, then this site would be the FIRST to know that the left right paradigm is a wash and that BOTH candidates are owned by the same bank.

So...if it was dedicated towards truth, it keeps letting a HUGE ONE right through the cracks.

SAVE IT FOR THOSE YOU CAN FOOL. Which, on this site, MIGHT be many...
 Quoting: Serenity777


So, are you one that believes in anarchy or some form of utopian Marxist ideology? While I agree that our entire system has been somewhat usurped, and that both "parties" are becoming increasingly similar, I still believe in the ability of America to overcome any obstacle in our struggle to truly be free and independent. I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time. So, I'm unclear how you think I'm trying to mislead, or "fool you," but I assure you that I don't say anything without sincerity.

Regarding the mods being conservative, so what (if they truly are)? You're still allowed to speak your mind, and if you have a valid point you can support with fact, it is typically well received here (even though some or even all may still disagree with you, or have a different perspective).

So, help me understand why you feel shunned, and why you think we're full of it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I don't think Serenity777 is an anarchist or Marxist at all.

Why do you think so? Because he/she is aware of the

completely usurped Constitution and Republic form of

government?

"I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time." -- Really? Are you being facetious?
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


Rome cannot be rebuilt in a day. So, how does one deal with what we have today? We must change it back first through whatever peaceful means we can, by taking it back little by little. I understand the "sovereign concept" and also believe the constitution is the fundamental document under which we should be governed; however, I do not believe that an anarchistic approach is the intelligent way of taking us back to that - which is essentially what some folks here espouse, and why I asked the question. The other, Marxist utopia, was thrown in there because I was not clear from which direction he might be coming.

I could be completely off base (am now posting from a phone, and did not have time to research his other posts), and if so, I apologize. That said, the tone of his post makes me think I'm close.
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Lots of words that practically went nowhere.

Sorry man, but, the owner of this site is a CONSERVATIVE. The mods on this site are also CONSERVATIVE.

I'm not for sure who you THINK you're fooling, but it ain't me...

And if you LOVED busting lies so much and brought forth so much truth, then this site would be the FIRST to know that the left right paradigm is a wash and that BOTH candidates are owned by the same bank.

So...if it was dedicated towards truth, it keeps letting a HUGE ONE right through the cracks.

SAVE IT FOR THOSE YOU CAN FOOL. Which, on this site, MIGHT be many...
 Quoting: Serenity777


So, are you one that believes in anarchy or some form of utopian Marxist ideology? While I agree that our entire system has been somewhat usurped, and that both "parties" are becoming increasingly similar, I still believe in the ability of America to overcome any obstacle in our struggle to truly be free and independent. I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time. So, I'm unclear how you think I'm trying to mislead, or "fool you," but I assure you that I don't say anything without sincerity.

Regarding the mods being conservative, so what (if they truly are)? You're still allowed to speak your mind, and if you have a valid point you can support with fact, it is typically well received here (even though some or even all may still disagree with you, or have a different perspective).

So, help me understand why you feel shunned, and why you think we're full of it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I don't think Serenity777 is an anarchist or Marxist at all.

Why do you think so? Because he/she is aware of the

completely usurped Constitution and Republic form of

government?

"I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time." -- Really? Are you being facetious?
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


Rome cannot be rebuilt in a day. So, how does one deal with what we have today? We must change it back first through whatever peaceful means we can, by taking it back little by little. I understand the "sovereign concept" and also believe the constitution is the fundamental document under which we should be governed; however, I do not believe that an anarchistic approach is the intelligent way of taking us back to that - which is essentially what some folks here espouse, and why I asked the question. The other, Marxist utopia, was thrown in there because I was not clear from which direction he might be coming.

I could be completely off base (am now posting from a phone, and did not have time to research his other posts), and if so, I apologize. That said, the tone of his post makes me think I'm close.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I believe you're saying or your argument is, "choose the

lesser of the two Evils". If we find ourselves forced to

choose Evil (even the lesser of), then we are in a state of

check. If we continue on the path of choosing the lesser

of two Evils, we will be check-mated.

Should we continue the "lesser" path, the outcome is

guaranteed. Surely you recognize the path we are on?
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I have been here 8+ years and this is true. However, when the tide changes I dont change with it, I remain that crusty barnacled wooden piling fighting the current when the tide is strong and floating easy when its not. The question is: what kind of person changes their principals to conform to the majority around him?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24719572

Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa



...


Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24719572

Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


To start, state control of that system vs federal, open borders on insurance, and personal choice. Guess we will have to see what he comes up with, but i think we all agree the previous system needed fixing, and Obamacare is significantly worse. I trust that he will mold it accordingly, and make it much simpler, and of he doesn't, I will work tirelessly for his removal after the first term. I am very confident that he cannot make it any worse than what we have.

In the meantime, we will be working overtime replacing legislators incapable of recognizing why we hired them. Republican and democrat alike.
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
What's sad is that those of us who understand the Constitution, and the hows and whys of it, and would like to see it being followed, are somehow considered 'right wing'.

Constitutionalists are the center of the American political spectrum, not the right wing.
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I have been here 8+ years and this is true. However, when the tide changes I dont change with it, I remain that crusty barnacled wooden piling fighting the current when the tide is strong and floating easy when its not. The question is: what kind of person changes their principals to conform to the majority around him?
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24719572


Personal responsibility is a red herring. Everyone agrees with personal responsibility and tries to adhere to it, a simple concept. But all too often it is used as a political sledge hammer to bash the ideals of others. They will juxtapose personal responsibility with social responsibility, and say the two are incompatible. Yet unending war and massive military expenditures are one of the principal anti social and irresponsible acts one can think of. Yes you will vote Romney I can see that, and when he slaps down advocates of social responsibility you will cheer his every abuse, I guess. And when you slander the dissenters as Marxists and Communists Romney and the Elite will love you for dividing us and not uniting against those which are actively taking away freedoms and peace. I am sorry when the problem is formulated as such, I think you pro war libertines are vastly out numbered.
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Re: To those of you calling GLP a Right-Wing site....
Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
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Not sure what you mean, but I think most of us are for truth, freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility (I am at least). So, if Romney does what he says, we will slap the dissenters in the face. If he lies, and pursues a different path that does not adhere to those ideals, we will do all we can to call him out on it, and scream just as loudly for his removal (I will at least).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24719572

Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


...

Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


To start, state control of that system vs federal, open borders on insurance, and personal choice. Guess we will have to see what he comes up with, but i think we all agree the previous system needed fixing, and Obamacare is significantly worse. I trust that he will mold it accordingly, and make it much simpler, and of he doesn't, I will work tirelessly for his removal after the first term. I am very confident that he cannot make it any worse than what we have.

In the meantime, we will be working overtime replacing legislators incapable of recognizing why we hired them. Republican and democrat alike.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee

Why don't you work overtime to expose the corruption?

Why not shout, blog and share the fact we are locked into

a positional dead end?

We are not going to vote our way out of this nightmare until

enough people are made aware that the situation is dire.

In my opinion, continuing down the middle road, hop-

scotching from one less evil to another plays into the

hands of those who are determined to destroy this country.

Just sayin'
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So, are you one that believes in anarchy or some form of utopian Marxist ideology? While I agree that our entire system has been somewhat usurped, and that both "parties" are becoming increasingly similar, I still believe in the ability of America to overcome any obstacle in our struggle to truly be free and independent. I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time. So, I'm unclear how you think I'm trying to mislead, or "fool you," but I assure you that I don't say anything without sincerity.

Regarding the mods being conservative, so what (if they truly are)? You're still allowed to speak your mind, and if you have a valid point you can support with fact, it is typically well received here (even though some or even all may still disagree with you, or have a different perspective).

So, help me understand why you feel shunned, and why you think we're full of it.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I don't think Serenity777 is an anarchist or Marxist at all.

Why do you think so? Because he/she is aware of the

completely usurped Constitution and Republic form of

government?

"I think, deep down, every American recognizes what we had (and still have to some degree) and that we can and will reverse the course set by those we put in charge in due time." -- Really? Are you being facetious?
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


Rome cannot be rebuilt in a day. So, how does one deal with what we have today? We must change it back first through whatever peaceful means we can, by taking it back little by little. I understand the "sovereign concept" and also believe the constitution is the fundamental document under which we should be governed; however, I do not believe that an anarchistic approach is the intelligent way of taking us back to that - which is essentially what some folks here espouse, and why I asked the question. The other, Marxist utopia, was thrown in there because I was not clear from which direction he might be coming.

I could be completely off base (am now posting from a phone, and did not have time to research his other posts), and if so, I apologize. That said, the tone of his post makes me think I'm close.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

I believe you're saying or your argument is, "choose the

lesser of the two Evils". If we find ourselves forced to

choose Evil (even the lesser of), then we are in a state of

check. If we continue on the path of choosing the lesser

of two Evils, we will be check-mated.

Should we continue the "lesser" path, the outcome is

guaranteed. Surely you recognize the path we are on?
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


I think you're trying to maybe put words in my mouth. I also think that Romney reflects a much better alternative than what we currently have in place, and leans much more toward the ideals that made this country great than the traitor currently taking residence. So, again, Rome must be rebuilt a little at a time.

There are other avenues we must pursue to continue retaking this country, but what you seem to be saying is that all is hopeless short of full blown revolution....I don't believe that yet.
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Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Says the Admin with 3 pinned threads defending Romney as if he were Christ walking on water.



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Hey, it's not easy to come out from under the spell which we

ALL have been under, at one time or another.

We are dealing with a very sophisticated "mass

indoctrination"

technique. The people who see Romney as the less of the

two monsters, is showing some inclination to wakening

from this mind manipulation. That is much better than not

being

aware at all. It is a huge leap to completely remove the

hoodwink.

It is my opinion that some people just can't grasp

our ugly reality, and I do not blame them for that.
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Anyone who has been here longer than 4 years knows that when Bush was in office he got it as bad if not worse than Obama does..

Pretty much anyone who is in power is well, The Powers That Be, and therefor must be evil according to many conspiracies..

So just wait..

If Romney does win you'll see the tide around here change again..

Such is the way of things..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Says the Admin with 3 pinned threads defending Romney as if he were Christ walking on water.



Please don't ban me.
 Quoting: Boudicca

Hey, it's not easy to come out from under the spell which we

ALL have been under, at one time or another.

We are dealing with a very sophisticated "mass

indoctrination"

technique. The people who see Romney as the less of the

two monsters, is showing some inclination to wakening

from this mind manipulation. That is much better than not

being

aware at all. It is a huge leap to completely remove the

hoodwink.

It is my opinion that some people just can't grasp

our ugly reality, and I do not blame them for that.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


LMAO...
"The people who see Romney as the less of the two monsters, is showing some inclination to wakening from this mind manipulation." 1rof1 You actually think Obama and Romney are different? Oh my, and this is said with the up-most respect, honey, you've not yet to begun to awaken.

There is no difference between the two. Romney has had more time to flip flop on his positions. Obama, unfortunately for him, is proving what a worthless p.o.s. that he is in front of the camera.

:ObamaRomneyCrack:
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Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


...


To start, state control of that system vs federal, open borders on insurance, and personal choice. Guess we will have to see what he comes up with, but i think we all agree the previous system needed fixing, and Obamacare is significantly worse. I trust that he will mold it accordingly, and make it much simpler, and of he doesn't, I will work tirelessly for his removal after the first term. I am very confident that he cannot make it any worse than what we have.

In the meantime, we will be working overtime replacing legislators incapable of recognizing why we hired them. Republican and democrat alike.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee

Why don't you work overtime to expose the corruption?

Why not shout, blog and share the fact we are locked into

a positional dead end?

We are not going to vote our way out of this nightmare until

enough people are made aware that the situation is dire.

In my opinion, continuing down the middle road, hop-

scotching from one less evil to another plays into the

hands of those who are determined to destroy this country.

Just sayin'
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


I understand your position, and acknowledge that this country's current situation is rather dire; however, I prefer to think optimistically - and still trust that our system will work, and that patriots still exist - even in Washington. When or if the time finally comes that we fully realize we've been had (as a population), that our system of governance has been totally usurped and that we literally have no say anymore....my guess is that all bets will be off, and we won't be bantering on a forum. That time has not yet come (although it might be close), so I intend to do all that I can to continue peacefully steering us back to where we were meant to be - and pray that "that time" never comes.
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Please enlighten me. What ARE Romney's ideals? What is

his position on anything of importance, that does NOT

fully agree with Obama, such as, Obamacare, copied quite

clearly, and admittedly from

Romney's MA Healthcare bill.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


...


To start, state control of that system vs federal, open borders on insurance, and personal choice. Guess we will have to see what he comes up with, but i think we all agree the previous system needed fixing, and Obamacare is significantly worse. I trust that he will mold it accordingly, and make it much simpler, and of he doesn't, I will work tirelessly for his removal after the first term. I am very confident that he cannot make it any worse than what we have.

In the meantime, we will be working overtime replacing legislators incapable of recognizing why we hired them. Republican and democrat alike.
 Quoting: I Ban Thee

Why don't you work overtime to expose the corruption?

Why not shout, blog and share the fact we are locked into

a positional dead end?

We are not going to vote our way out of this nightmare until

enough people are made aware that the situation is dire.

In my opinion, continuing down the middle road, hop-

scotching from one less evil to another plays into the

hands of those who are determined to destroy this country.

Just sayin'
 Quoting: I Ban Thee


Oh, and we do work overtime exposing the corruption. In fact, I'm fairly confident that many from MSM (right and left) regularly visit GLP for material.

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The greatest conspiracy of our time is how an unqualified, quite possibly illegal, Academic Radical Socialist ex-drug dealer with a questionable background, that hates this country, got elected as President of the United States.

The 2nd greatest conspiracy of our time is how such a huge portion of our supposedly unbiased media, "The 4th Estate", has covered and shilled for this same person, and the actual COMMUNISTS behind him.
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ummm, look at the top stickied post
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Yes...and I've explained above why those posts are "sitckied."
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.........go to the Huff Post where you monkeys belong
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The greatest conspiracy of our time is how an unqualified, quite possibly illegal, Academic Radical Socialist ex-drug dealer with a questionable background, that hates this country, got elected as President of the United States.

The 2nd greatest conspiracy of our time is how such a huge portion of our supposedly unbiased media, "The 4th Estate", has covered and shilled for this same person, and the actual COMMUNISTS behind him.
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It's really quite laughable how much power you think that the president has. Most of the legislation that you are so up in arms against were passed by a Republican Congress. If you want to be pissed at anyone, be pissed at them.

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