DOOM- ON!!! DIESEL OFFICIALLY HIT $6.00 in Cali... Watch nation come to screeching halt! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 10/05/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does not have anything to do with logistics here in the U.S. Get over it. Besides, you bent over for it, why not tell us about that? You're done, we're still fighting. You gave up and let socialism control your country. Do you pay for that "free" healthcare through gas taxes? |
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| dr.einstein User ID: 24857213 10/05/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most of that is government taxes. we're talking about the true value of Petroleum. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24613830 10/05/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. I don't think we'll all die but you are right. Things will get tough. If Cali has fuel issues, where will it come from? Where does a lot of food come from? Even if people get food locally, Cali is still a factor. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25021109 10/05/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's right folks: "de-regulate" and let let the criminal-capitalists steal ALL of your money. ^^Example of someone who fails in life, so looks to blame everyone who is successful. LOL successful in what? Bulling other countries? Profiting killing millions? what do you want? Even our respect? |
| Conspiracy Theorist User ID: 8962305 10/05/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist What does it feel like to be an idiot? Without profit you don't have wages and salaries you moron! Well...50% profit pays all that...500% profit is just obsurd. Where are you getting those numbers? The CA governemnt gets $0.33 on the gallon. Pure profit! And the CA governemnt does absolutely NOTHING to explore for it, extract it, refine it, ship and distribute it. The average profit the actual gas company makes? Around $0.04 to $0.08 on the gallon. Who is gouging who here? Learn the truth before you make yourself look like an idiot. First of all...you'e buying gas company issued statements on who gets what. The state is supposed to use that tax on roads, police, safety, etc. That's fine, that's where it should go (even though it probably doesn't which is the real problem). The gas company and the profit you've quoted is total fabrication. A gas station makes about that much...sometimes as high as 20 cents a gallon. However...the gas COMPANY, like Chevron, Mobile, etc., all posted profits in the 100's of billions. You're going to tell me that's not GOOD ENOUGH? Are you going to tell me that's not close to 500%? Here's the deal. The main people getting rich are two groups. The middle eastern families that own the oil and those people that own the gas companies. The families are eating gold they're so rich, and the gas company owners own extreme amounts of property and industry. So...you're okay with takin it up the ass so that some sultan can have gold thread sheets? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. You're okay with taking it up the ass so that a gas company exec can get a 1,000,000 bonus? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. No, its not a fabrication. I don't see you railing against Big Milk or Big Water. Their profit margins make oil companies look like a bunch of pikers. Educate yourself instead of believing socialist propaganda. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25017812 10/05/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why isn't the price of gasoline pegged to the value Quoting: dr.einstein of oil at the well-head, and let's let's be done with all of this periodic and regular price-gouging by the fuel distributors. Because you first pump crude oil then you move it to a refinery then you refine it, then you refine it some more, then you have to have a built and maintained gas station waiting to receive it when the tanker shows up. The people involved in all parts of the process need to get paid so they have a reason to go to work? Therefore a profit must be made ? The price of gasoline is fairly constant, but the "cash" in your pocket is losing value, Dollar,Pound,Euro, Yen or whatever. Try reading about 'Fiat money' and 'Supply and Demand.' It might help. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25021109 10/05/2012 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. I don't think we'll all die but you are right. Things will get tough. If Cali has fuel issues, where will it come from? Where does a lot of food come from? Even if people get food locally, Cali is still a factor. the last time I checked California was bankrupted to the core |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 10/05/2012 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. Yes, we can survive without the Cali haters, but the big question is: Can they survive without us? Once the shtf, all those foodstuffs will be kept here in the state and there will be food rotting in the fields with people starving all over this country if there is no way to move them around. I just hope there will be a way to move it far enough to keep the population of our own state fed, we are a huge breadbasket and no one wants to give us any credit for that or anything else we do for the rest of the country. I'm glad we've got the food! |
| Geochemist User ID: 24490123 10/05/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don’t you people start reading. There is a series of refinery problems due to fire damage, limited supply, retooling form Summer to Winter blends etc. The problems should be resolved shortly but Kalifornia refuses to allow more refineries in the State, mandate ridiculous “blend” requirements (or they could just ship from other refineries), etc. When you walk a knifes edge on the supply / demand game sometimes you are going to get burned. It stuns me that no one seems to understand where the energy they rely on for daily existence comes from or how it is produced/refined. Instead they sit around and bitch about its someone else’s fault. It’s not. Just look in the fucking mirror for the problem. BTW diesel is high this time of year due to retooling for the production of winter heating oil. “It's a combination of low inventories and multiple California refinery problems," “The problem is likely a short-term one according to some as the temporary shutdown of local refineries (after Chevron's Richmond refinery fire) and maintenance is completed…” [link to www.zerohedge.com] [link to www.zerohedge.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. I don't think we'll all die but you are right. Things will get tough. If Cali has fuel issues, where will it come from? Where does a lot of food come from? Even if people get food locally, Cali is still a factor. Cali supplies water to 3 states, power all the way to Colorado, food to every state in the U.S., education to millions of nonresidents, etc. Our economy is vital, even as trashed as it is. Our agriculture is all that saved the mid west this year. I deal in hay and I can tell you for the time in several years there is no extra hay in the barns here. We sold millions of tons to the mid west and foreign countries to keep their cattle/horses/sheep/goats alive. Because of that, I used to get alfalfa for 175/ton, now it's 365/ton. All because we saved a lot of other people and now we're paying the price for it. That's the whole reason behind the massive cattle slaughter the day after Bernanke printed that last 1 trillion. He promised to subsidize the meat markets because they would lose money by putting so much meat into the market at once but they couldn't find feet to keep their cattle going until late october like normal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25021109 10/05/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most of that is government taxes. we're talking about the true value of Petroleum. Who pays the taxes you retard? The "little guy". jeez your a moran. and who pays your oil real price? a couple of millions of children burned with phosphor bombs? americans cannot see more distant that their own ass hole |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24521357 10/05/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The price of oil--per barrel-- is pegged exclusively to the DOLLAR. OIL was $10 per barrel in 2001. Gold was $274 in the year 2000. Do the math, geniuses. The US fed is printing money uncontrollably now to buy up our govt debt. All nations know this. They're all tethered to this financial TITANIC. The dollar's purchasing power fallen by 50%. All these DRACONIAN executive orders and domestic troop movements are in anticipation of the coming financial collapse. Spain, Italy and Greece are just the pebbles falling before the avalanche. Imagine the aftermath of the "RICHEST" nation on the planet being reduced to FOURTH-WORLD status!! Can you hear the Earth-shattering noise of the NATION dominoes falling in the wake of such a collapse? Imagine the world-wide chaos and the ensuing scramble by these former super-powers all vying for control of the only universal currency...OIL. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where are you getting those numbers? The CA governemnt gets $0.33 on the gallon. Pure profit! And the CA governemnt does absolutely NOTHING to explore for it, extract it, refine it, ship and distribute it. The average profit the actual gas company makes? Around $0.04 to $0.08 on the gallon. Who is gouging who here? Learn the truth before you make yourself look like an idiot. First of all...you'e buying gas company issued statements on who gets what. The state is supposed to use that tax on roads, police, safety, etc. That's fine, that's where it should go (even though it probably doesn't which is the real problem). The gas company and the profit you've quoted is total fabrication. A gas station makes about that much...sometimes as high as 20 cents a gallon. However...the gas COMPANY, like Chevron, Mobile, etc., all posted profits in the 100's of billions. You're going to tell me that's not GOOD ENOUGH? Are you going to tell me that's not close to 500%? Here's the deal. The main people getting rich are two groups. The middle eastern families that own the oil and those people that own the gas companies. The families are eating gold they're so rich, and the gas company owners own extreme amounts of property and industry. So...you're okay with takin it up the ass so that some sultan can have gold thread sheets? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. You're okay with taking it up the ass so that a gas company exec can get a 1,000,000 bonus? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. No, its not a fabrication. I don't see you railing against Big Milk or Big Water. Their profit margins make oil companies look like a bunch of pikers. Educate yourself instead of believing socialist propaganda. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA big milk? Are you even real? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With 40 million people in it. Such wonderful love for fellow humanity. We're out here making and building what moves most of this country. Our dairies and agriculture feed most of the country and half the world. Without us you die. Yes, we can survive without the Cali haters, but the big question is: Can they survive without us? Once the shtf, all those foodstuffs will be kept here in the state and there will be food rotting in the fields with people starving all over this country if there is no way to move them around. I just hope there will be a way to move it far enough to keep the population of our own state fed, we are a huge breadbasket and no one wants to give us any credit for that or anything else we do for the rest of the country. I'm glad we've got the food! You got ALL that right |
| Conspiracy Theorist User ID: 8962305 10/05/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most of that is government taxes. we're talking about the true value of Petroleum. Who pays the taxes you retard? The "little guy". jeez your a moran. and who pays your oil real price? a couple of millions of children burned with phosphor bombs? americans cannot see more distant that their own ass hole No idea what you're talking about. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24803892 10/05/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing will come to a halt, people will still go out and buy it. The sheep dont realise that if they all didnt drive for 3 - 5 days the price would drop fast. But the sheep dont want to take the risk, they are scared that their little lives will collapse if the rebel for a few days. 80% of car users dont even know what brand their petrol station is. |
| Conspiracy Theorist User ID: 8962305 10/05/2012 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist Where are you getting those numbers? The CA governemnt gets $0.33 on the gallon. Pure profit! And the CA governemnt does absolutely NOTHING to explore for it, extract it, refine it, ship and distribute it. The average profit the actual gas company makes? Around $0.04 to $0.08 on the gallon. Who is gouging who here? Learn the truth before you make yourself look like an idiot. First of all...you'e buying gas company issued statements on who gets what. The state is supposed to use that tax on roads, police, safety, etc. That's fine, that's where it should go (even though it probably doesn't which is the real problem). The gas company and the profit you've quoted is total fabrication. A gas station makes about that much...sometimes as high as 20 cents a gallon. However...the gas COMPANY, like Chevron, Mobile, etc., all posted profits in the 100's of billions. You're going to tell me that's not GOOD ENOUGH? Are you going to tell me that's not close to 500%? Here's the deal. The main people getting rich are two groups. The middle eastern families that own the oil and those people that own the gas companies. The families are eating gold they're so rich, and the gas company owners own extreme amounts of property and industry. So...you're okay with takin it up the ass so that some sultan can have gold thread sheets? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. You're okay with taking it up the ass so that a gas company exec can get a 1,000,000 bonus? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. No, its not a fabrication. I don't see you railing against Big Milk or Big Water. Their profit margins make oil companies look like a bunch of pikers. Educate yourself instead of believing socialist propaganda. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA big milk? Are you even real? Don't take my word for it. Look into it yourself. You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24803892 10/05/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most of that is government taxes. we're talking about the true value of Petroleum. Who pays the taxes you retard? The "little guy". jeez your a moran. and who pays your oil real price? a couple of millions of children burned with phosphor bombs? americans cannot see more distant that their own ass hole Wtf are you banging on about, you sum the average user of this site up in one foul swoop. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why don’t you people start reading. There is a series of refinery problems due to fire damage, limited supply, retooling form Summer to Winter blends etc. The problems should be resolved shortly but Kalifornia refuses to allow more refineries in the State, mandate ridiculous “blend” requirements (or they could just ship from other refineries), etc. When you walk a knifes edge on the supply / demand game sometimes you are going to get burned. Quoting: Geochemist 24490123 It stuns me that no one seems to understand where the energy they rely on for daily existence comes from or how it is produced/refined. Instead they sit around and bitch about its someone else’s fault. It’s not. Just look in the fucking mirror for the problem. BTW diesel is high this time of year due to retooling for the production of winter heating oil. “It's a combination of low inventories and multiple California refinery problems," “The problem is likely a short-term one according to some as the temporary shutdown of local refineries (after Chevron's Richmond refinery fire) and maintenance is completed…” [link to www.zerohedge.com] [link to www.zerohedge.com] You sound like you might be well read, but you don't understand business very well, do you? If I own a department store I need to make a profit but I can't ask for so much that I drive people away UNLESS I have something that people CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT. So...as a gas company, they'r bragging and letting everybody know they're doing EXTREMELY well. In the hundreds of billions in profits. As a department store owner if I want to expand my store or retile the bathrooms or paint the exterior or a move to a new and bigger location, I can't raise the prices drastically on all my merchandise to do that. Like I said, I'll drive away customers. So, I have to be business smart and look at the profits I've made and saved over time. Just like the gas companies. They've made hundreds of billions. So...their "Good business sense" says they have plenty of money to draw on for a few million dollar projects here and there, a few million dollar shortages here and there. However, instead of drawing from their savings and profits like every other company in the world must do, they just raise prices on everybody to pay for their expenses! The ONLY REASON they can do this is because of weak spined presidents who REFUSE to defend the American working family from price gouging. This is a resource that we HAVE to have and they know it. So, instead of placing a limit on it like they should...our presidents buy into the oil companies and make money off our hardships! Democrat and republican alike! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25021109 10/05/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: dr.einstein most of that is government taxes. we're talking about the true value of Petroleum. Who pays the taxes you retard? The "little guy". jeez your a moran. and who pays your oil real price? a couple of millions of children burned with phosphor bombs? americans cannot see more distant that their own ass hole No idea what you're talking about. remove your head from your ass... Your lovely country killed almost 2 million people in the last 10 years in order to assure to the great america to keep alive an economy based ONLY in the DOLLAR backed by the ARMY you have no idea, or you simply prefer to mind your business and say fuck off to the rest of the world...the important is that the spoiled babies can keep consuming like there is not tomorrow |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 10/05/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing will come to a halt, people will still go out and buy it. The sheep dont realise that if they all didnt drive for 3 - 5 days the price would drop fast. But the sheep dont want to take the risk, they are scared that their little lives will collapse if the rebel for a few days. 80% of car users dont even know what brand their petrol station is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24803892 Why don't you organize a world wide "Don't buy gas week" since you seem to have all the answers. Step up and BE THE LEADER if you think it's all so easy to do. YOU DO IT! Let me see you solve the problem. I will back you all the way. What are you going to do to make this happen? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24941964 10/05/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U cant do nothing with that (or maybe). Ill tell U in short: Dollar is based on oil if u want cheap oil - stop printing dollars. This increases prices all around world. And will be worse, they cant stop printing because of debt system. So u need to make more oil wars to gain more sources. If not, prices will rise because there will be to much dollars to cover less oil! Capisci? ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368686 10/05/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: American Trappers, LLC First of all...you'e buying gas company issued statements on who gets what. The state is supposed to use that tax on roads, police, safety, etc. That's fine, that's where it should go (even though it probably doesn't which is the real problem). The gas company and the profit you've quoted is total fabrication. A gas station makes about that much...sometimes as high as 20 cents a gallon. However...the gas COMPANY, like Chevron, Mobile, etc., all posted profits in the 100's of billions. You're going to tell me that's not GOOD ENOUGH? Are you going to tell me that's not close to 500%? Here's the deal. The main people getting rich are two groups. The middle eastern families that own the oil and those people that own the gas companies. The families are eating gold they're so rich, and the gas company owners own extreme amounts of property and industry. So...you're okay with takin it up the ass so that some sultan can have gold thread sheets? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. You're okay with taking it up the ass so that a gas company exec can get a 1,000,000 bonus? YOU'RE THE IDIOT. No, its not a fabrication. I don't see you railing against Big Milk or Big Water. Their profit margins make oil companies look like a bunch of pikers. Educate yourself instead of believing socialist propaganda. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA big milk? Are you even real? Don't take my word for it. Look into it yourself. You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary. You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :) |
| dr.einstein User ID: 24857213 10/05/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | let's get back on the subject: ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL. |
| thetrickybigguy say hello to my little friend... User ID: 25003502 10/05/2012 03:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3.66 here in ft laud for regs and it has been going down a few cents every couple days. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ |