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DOOM- ON!!! DIESEL OFFICIALLY HIT $6.00 in Cali... Watch nation come to screeching halt!

 
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Who pays the taxes you retard? The "little guy".

jeez your a moran.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


and who pays your oil real price?

a couple of millions of children burned with phosphor bombs?

americans cannot see more distant that their own ass hole
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No idea what you're talking about.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


remove your head from your ass...

Your lovely country killed almost 2 million people in the last 10 years in order to assure to the great america to keep alive an economy based ONLY in the DOLLAR backed by the ARMY

you have no idea, or you simply prefer to mind your business and say fuck off to the rest of the world...the important is that the spoiled babies can keep consuming like there is not tomorrow
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Your hatred for common people who have no control over this government is only exceeded by your ignorance.

We know what they are doing and we hate it, those of us who are not muzzie haters are actually able to see past our noses at what is happening and we want it to stop.

Now, rather than being a part of the problem, why not use that energy you have to try and help us, rather than hating all of us. Never deal in absolutes, it will always make a fool of you!
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let's get back on the subject:

ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
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No, its not a fabrication.

I don't see you railing against Big Milk or Big Water. Their profit margins make oil companies look like a bunch of pikers.

Educate yourself instead of believing socialist propaganda.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA big milk? Are you even real?
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Don't take my word for it. Look into it yourself.

You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist



You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :)
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of milk?

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of water?

Compare that to the profit margin of a gallon of gas.

I predict you will not answer my questions honestly because the truth conflicts with your world view.

And i'm not just cute, i'm damned cute.

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Federal regulations.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


that's right folks: "de-regulate" and let let the criminal-capitalists steal ALL of your money.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


What do you think is happening now? Do you feel like no one is stealing your money from you? If so, then I am happy that you are able to live in la-la-land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


well, at least i don't have total mush for brains, like
you obviously do.
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Can't even answer a question. Einstein is being proven wrong on many points these days, you might want to change that moniker.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA big milk? Are you even real?
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Don't take my word for it. Look into it yourself.

You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist



You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :)
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of milk?

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of water?

Compare that to the profit margin of a gallon of gas.

I predict you will not answer my questions honestly because the truth conflicts with your world view.

And i'm not just cute, i'm damned cute.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


Profit margin for whom? Farmer makes about $1.00/gallon according to the people I know who run dairies and according to most market research. Now...different farmers have different qualities of milk and some may receive a little more or a little less.

Since the average gallon of milk here is about $2.75 / gallon that leaves $1.75 per gallon. So...split that between the producer who pasteurizes/homogonizes and adds or removes products to the milk, the delivery company if separate, the wholesale marketer who buys large milk purchases and then sells to smaller stores, and to the actual stores who carry the milk for you to buy. That's not a lot of profit. I know from experience, a good milk producing cow costs about $3,500.00 a year to maintain. That doesn't include the costs it takes to run a dairy, pass inspections, pay for water, pay for cleaning, pay for milking machines, etc.

In reality...nobody's making a lot of money here. Thanks for letting me prove that. Oh...and btw, if you're dumb enough to pay $4.00 or more per gallon because of the specific retail chain you buy from...that's your own fault.
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let's get back on the subject:

ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
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let's get back on the subject:

ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


ewwww...you just went from cute to downright ugly. You like Obama...and you're calling me the socialist? What an ironic idiocy.
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let's get back on the subject:

ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


LOL You are a fucking Communist!
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Stop moaning. We pay £1.40+ a litre in the UK. Get used to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957065


Stop moaning? What a Pratt you turned out to be.
First up, converting your Liters (the French metric system you were FORCED to adopt) should be done into U.S. gallons not the quite a bit larger Imperial gallon as was standard in the UK when I was a lad.
Please try to understand that the UK is TINY!
A lot of people in the USA 'HAVE' to drive 75-100 miles round trip every day to go to work and back, their are no viable bus or train alternatives outside of major cities and a lot of people need to move tools and materials, you can not get on a bus with 1000lbs of lumber to build a barn on a distant mountain!
In the USA, to survive, you need your own wheels.
England is about the same size as Americas smallest state,Vermont.
It takes about 2 days to drive across Texas on highway 10 if you stop to sleep and eat,(I'm sure many truckers do it faster
but for regular people it is quite a voyage).
Try to understand that moving a truck load of Veggies 1000 miles can not be done in a Mini Cooper.
3 or 4 England's would fit inside the State of Texas alone.
When all is aid and done,we pay as much of our income,or more,
by necessity, than the Brits,or Europeans, it is not a choice if you want to eat and have a roof over your head.
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let's get back on the subject:

ALL OF THE PRICE GOUGING EXECUTIVES NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


LOL You are a fucking Communist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


no. i'm a Socialist. and i'm educated enough to know the difference.
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Stop moaning. We pay £1.40+ a litre in the UK. Get used to it.
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Stop moaning? What a Pratt you turned out to be.
First up, converting your Liters (the French metric system you were FORCED to adopt) should be done into U.S. gallons not the quite a bit larger Imperial gallon as was standard in the UK when I was a lad.
Please try to understand that the UK is TINY!
A lot of people in the USA 'HAVE' to drive 75-100 miles round trip every day to go to work and back, their are no viable bus or train alternatives outside of major cities and a lot of people need to move tools and materials, you can not get on a bus with 1000lbs of lumber to build a barn on a distant mountain!
In the USA, to survive, you need your own wheels.
England is about the same size as Americas smallest state,Vermont.
It takes about 2 days to drive across Texas on highway 10 if you stop to sleep and eat,(I'm sure many truckers do it faster
but for regular people it is quite a voyage).
Try to understand that moving a truck load of Veggies 1000 miles can not be done in a Mini Cooper.
3 or 4 England's would fit inside the State of Texas alone.
When all is aid and done,we pay as much of our income,or more,
by necessity, than the Brits,or Europeans, it is not a choice if you want to eat and have a roof over your head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25017812


These are the people who think meat is born in plastic wrap all ready for their fry pan and have no idea that french fries were once potatoes that were grown in a field.
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Why don’t you people start reading. There is a series of refinery problems due to fire damage, limited supply, retooling form Summer to Winter blends etc. The problems should be resolved shortly but Kalifornia refuses to allow more refineries in the State, mandate ridiculous “blend” requirements (or they could just ship from other refineries), etc. When you walk a knifes edge on the supply / demand game sometimes you are going to get burned.

It stuns me that no one seems to understand where the energy they rely on for daily existence comes from or how it is produced/refined. Instead they sit around and bitch about its someone else’s fault. It’s not. Just look in the fucking mirror for the problem.

BTW diesel is high this time of year due to retooling for the production of winter heating oil.

“It's a combination of low inventories and multiple California refinery problems,"
“The problem is likely a short-term one according to some as the temporary shutdown of local refineries (after Chevron's Richmond refinery fire) and maintenance is completed…”

[link to www.zerohedge.com]

[link to www.zerohedge.com]


rant
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You sound like you might be well read, but you don't understand business very well, do you? If I own a department store I need to make a profit but I can't ask for so much that I drive people away UNLESS I have something that people CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT. So...as a gas company, they'r bragging and letting everybody know they're doing EXTREMELY well. In the hundreds of billions in profits. As a department store owner if I want to expand my store or retile the bathrooms or paint the exterior or a move to a new and bigger location, I can't raise the prices drastically on all my merchandise to do that. Like I said, I'll drive away customers. So, I have to be business smart and look at the profits I've made and saved over time. Just like the gas companies. They've made hundreds of billions. So...their "Good business sense" says they have plenty of money to draw on for a few million dollar projects here and there, a few million dollar shortages here and there. However, instead of drawing from their savings and profits like every other company in the world must do, they just raise prices on everybody to pay for their expenses! The ONLY REASON they can do this is because of weak spined presidents who REFUSE to defend the American working family from price gouging. This is a resource that we HAVE to have and they know it. So, instead of placing a limit on it like they should...our presidents buy into the oil companies and make money off our hardships! Democrat and republican alike!
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Did you actually read the links? How about the FIRE at the largest refinery in Kali?? Owning a dept store obviously gives you such a great insight to the technology to produce/refine/blend/distribute hydrocarbons and the associated technical issues.

BTW I write patents for a living and am the Pres of a technology company that has a focus on energy/hydrocarbons… And yes I understand business very well. Thank you.
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And the president needs to be jailed for allowing such huge gouging in the first place. Step up, defend America's working class and drill here if need be. Stop with all the crap about other nations getting rich off our backs. Oh...and in case you all hand't noticed...those nations getting rich are the most commonly associated with terrorism! So...we're funding world terrorism by paying these higher prices. Nice!
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


LOL You are a fucking Communist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333


no. i'm a Socialist. and i'm educated enough to know the difference.
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Oh, you're educated? By whom? The Commies that convinced you that you are a socialist?
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Don't take my word for it. Look into it yourself.

You will need to know what overhead is, and what a profit margin is to understand it. Better get a dictionary.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist



You're so funny! I love the fact that you try and do psyops on people but it's like playground level abilities. You're cute :)
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of milk?

Do you know what the profit margin is on a gallon of water?

Compare that to the profit margin of a gallon of gas.

I predict you will not answer my questions honestly because the truth conflicts with your world view.

And i'm not just cute, i'm damned cute.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


Profit margin for whom? Farmer makes about $1.00/gallon according to the people I know who run dairies and according to most market research. Now...different farmers have different qualities of milk and some may receive a little more or a little less.

Since the average gallon of milk here is about $2.75 / gallon that leaves $1.75 per gallon. So...split that between the producer who pasteurizes/homogonizes and adds or removes products to the milk, the delivery company if separate, the wholesale marketer who buys large milk purchases and then sells to smaller stores, and to the actual stores who carry the milk for you to buy. That's not a lot of profit. I know from experience, a good milk producing cow costs about $3,500.00 a year to maintain. That doesn't include the costs it takes to run a dairy, pass inspections, pay for water, pay for cleaning, pay for milking machines, etc.

In reality...nobody's making a lot of money here. Thanks for letting me prove that. Oh...and btw, if you're dumb enough to pay $4.00 or more per gallon because of the specific retail chain you buy from...that's your own fault.
 Quoting: American Trappers, LLC


I knew you wouldn't answer honestly so I will.

Profit margin on a gallon of milk is around 39%

Profit margin on a gallon of water can be anywhere from 50% up to 200% depending on the brand you buy.

Profit margin on a gallon of regular gasoline is around 7%

I buy gas from Kroger and with current prices and my discount its $2.85/gallon.
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Thanks for the pin...
I'm all for profits...!!!

This is ridiculous however.

There is no "sudden" cost to the producers, suppliers, distributors, sellers, etc... This is price gouging. Plain and simple...

And having drove a Peterbilt for 10 years before I went back to a easier job... I am still very well tied into the industry.

There is NO WAY, NONE to make a living with fuel at $6.00/ gallon.

And to the goober who attacked me...

Guys in Africa cut holes in oil pipelines, scoop up the crude and place it in a drum... they then heat this drum until the crude boils, etc, etc... Read about it here...:
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Point being, Diesel is EASY TO MAKE!
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Anybody notice how Romney said he wants both north american energy independence AND a larger military?

If you have one, you don't need the other. Which candidate would support this right answer? none of them. not now. not in the last 50 years, and not never

... we need a second american revolution from our European overlords. 10 years of freedom, and then the Chinese can legally enslave us via the debt.
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the re-election of Barak Obama will mark the dawning
of the Socialist Spring for america -- and the American Dream
will finally be realized for all its people.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


LOL You are a fucking Communist!
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no. i'm a Socialist. and i'm educated enough to know the difference.
 Quoting: dr.einstein


Oh, you're educated? By whom? The Commies that convinced you that you are a socialist?
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well, it's pretty obvious that yer just a run-of-mill
retarded right-wing republican.
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saw diesel @ a shell in irvine this morning for 6.35$


glad i don't own my TDI anymore
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Watch food prices skyrocket.
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DIESEL TRACTORS GET 5-10 MILES A GAL... FOOD..WELL?
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Ford fusion hybrid is starting to look good. 47/45 mpg..
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Watch food prices skyrocket.
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DIESEL TRACTORS GET 5-10 MILES A GAL... FOOD..WELL?
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the last president to institute wage and price controls
was a right-wing capitalist lackey named Richard Nixon.
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ive converted my chevvy to run on compressed air...i get 200 miles on a tank that costs me about 50c to fill up...aint life grand
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Stop fear mongering. Some places in California always have high prices. When I lived in La Jolla in 2010 gas was always $5/gal for Primium. It's still $5/gal. The price there never changes, but you can drive few miles to Pacific Beach and get normal Cali prices. La Jolla just has rich people that don't want to leave the village with their million dollar sports cars.
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Quit whining. It's only in California
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Uh, yeah.... The 5th largest economy IN THE WORLD.
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8th
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The profit margin on the gay fiendly liberal companies like Google, Intel, Facebook, etc have much higher profit margins than oil companies...so why trash oil companies you commie bastards.
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I knew you wouldn't answer honestly so I will.

Profit margin on a gallon of milk is around 39%

Profit margin on a gallon of water can be anywhere from 50% up to 200% depending on the brand you buy.

Profit margin on a gallon of regular gasoline is around 7%

I buy gas from Kroger and with current prices and my discount its $2.85/gallon.
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Diesel in California has been more expensive than regular gas ever since the whole sulfur content bullshit. Now we have to get a special mix of fuel for both diesel and regular gas that no one in the nation uses. The funny thing is, all the crude oil flows to California to be refined and sold to other states. So there is no shortage per-say, just the shortage of the special California fuel. If the state doesn't do something about this and still doesn't allow selling regular fuel in California to meet demand, it's going to be a disaster.
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They voted for this so I don't understand.

This is what the voters in California wanted.

They just passed energy bills that caused this mess.
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IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING?, AND WHY THE 6.00 A GALLON CHARGE?
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Because the whole world pays that much.

Why should it be any different in the States?
 Quoting: Démodé


Just because the "rest of the world's sheeple" like taking it in the cornhole doesn't mean the poeple of the USA have to.
 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


The USA is a corporation not a country. You are owned and rounded up like sheep. Wake up FFS!
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GOOD.

Maybe FINALLY America can pay for what it's doing to the rest of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


Hey jackass, Americans aren't doing anything to the rest of the world.

American GOVERNMENT is doing things to the rest of the world.

How about American GOVERNMENT paying for what they're doing, instead of the American PEOPLE??

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