Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11307924 United States 10/05/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Don't start! I homeschooled my 3 kids and they are MORE normal than most public school kids. They are successful members of society, one with a dual major degree that is working in her field AND a good mother, one working in industry, and the last is still in school. I am SICK to death of everyone thinking homeschooling is odd. It isn't. Most don't even do it for religious reasons, they do it to make sure their children can READ their diploma! Homeschooling IS odd. Or at least it generally ends up that way for most people. The Homeschooled kids I have met have a pretty fair grasp of academics but very little social skills at all. They also seem (for the most part) very brainwashed to one view or another. i.e. unable to think for themselves. That said, so long as proper socialization can happen- Homeschooling would be a good thing. It just doesnt seem to work that way usually. Also this has NOTHING to do with Homeschooling and from the audio it appears this bastard was in high School (a regular High School) until recently. This is about a society going out of control and dare I say- Evil. Well,I know several homeschooled kids that attend Ivy League universities, participate in sororities and fraternities (believe me, if they were "odd" in any way, the current members wouldn't pledge them), and participate in dorm/student government. I am tired of the slander toward homeschoolers. PERIOD. More likely, this kid had a video game habit and had lost touch with reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16778386 United States 10/05/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Don't start! I homeschooled my 3 kids and they are MORE normal than most public school kids. They are successful members of society, one with a dual major degree that is working in her field AND a good mother, one working in industry, and the last is still in school. I am SICK to death of everyone thinking homeschooling is odd. It isn't. Most don't even do it for religious reasons, they do it to make sure their children can READ their diploma! Homeschooling IS odd. Or at least it generally ends up that way for most people. The Homeschooled kids I have met have a pretty fair grasp of academics but very little social skills at all. They also seem (for the most part) very brainwashed to one view or another. i.e. unable to think for themselves. That said, so long as proper socialization can happen- Homeschooling would be a good thing. It just doesnt seem to work that way usually. Also this has NOTHING to do with Homeschooling and from the audio it appears this bastard was in high School (a regular High School) until recently. This is about a society going out of control and dare I say- Evil. Sorry OP, I won't derail your thread, but I did want to say this. I can debate the pro's and con's of homeschooling until the cows come home. I don't think that's this kid's problem. Whatever messed this boy up, probably was going on for some time. I just get angry when people spout off about homeschooling when they really don't have enough information. Some kids are anti-social and it's the parent's responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen. Dave, did you ever think your homeschooling experience sucked BECAUSE you were ill? Homeschooling isn't for everyone, but to automatically blame tragedies on homeschooling is too broad of a brush stroke. Besides, all of you anti-government/public school people out there need to make up your minds. What are you, really? Don't start! I homeschooled my 3 kids and they are MORE normal than most public school kids. They are successful members of society, one with a dual major degree that is working in her field AND a good mother, one working in industry, and the last is still in school. I am SICK to death of everyone thinking homeschooling is odd. It isn't. Most don't even do it for religious reasons, they do it to make sure their children can READ their diploma! Homeschooling IS odd. Or at least it generally ends up that way for most people. The Homeschooled kids I have met have a pretty fair grasp of academics but very little social skills at all. They also seem (for the most part) very brainwashed to one view or another. i.e. unable to think for themselves. That said, so long as proper socialization can happen- Homeschooling would be a good thing. It just doesnt seem to work that way usually. Also this has NOTHING to do with Homeschooling and from the audio it appears this bastard was in high School (a regular High School) until recently. This is about a society going out of control and dare I say- Evil. Sorry OP, I won't derail your thread, but I did want to say this. I can debate the pro's and con's of homeschooling until the cows come home. I don't think that's this kid's problem. Whatever messed this boy up, probably was going on for some time. I just get angry when people spout off about homeschooling when they really don't have enough information. Some kids are anti-social and it's the parent's responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen. Dave, did you ever think your homeschooling experience sucked BECAUSE you were ill? Homeschooling isn't for everyone, but to automatically blame tragedies on homeschooling is too broad of a brush stroke. Besides, all of you anti-government/public school people out there need to make up your minds. What are you, really? Since you quoted me let me reiterate that I never said anything about "Homeschooling" being the (or even A) cause of this. I said that the majority of Homeschooled kids are odd and cannot really make it in society. I have had the pleasure of living in a community where many are Homeschooled and (honestly) they are intelligent but nearly unemployable if the work deals with the public or demands indipendent thinking. I personally look at Homeschooling as potentially being far better than Public or private schools- But generally it falls far short of either. Again, if YOU are intelligent enough and willing to put the effort into it (and socialize your children at the same time) you are doing them very well and setting them up for success. I have seen the best citizens and most free thinking folks come from Homeschooled environments.I am merely saing that generally it is unqualified people with religions (almost cultish) ideology who homeschool and they produce robots with very little skills beyond memorization. -This wasnt an attack on Homeschooling, nor do I think its anyone's choice but the parents. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25017038 United Kingdom 10/05/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' I usually do not come right out and KNOCK DOWN someones opinion. BUT I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING HERE. you have no RIGHT> PERIOD> BACK OFF , this young man made a mistake and homeschooling did not CAUSE THIS.... Quoting: BEAUTIFUL LIFE 24046300 as of right now . NON OF US KNOW WHAT made this young man do this , but AGAIN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT. Pretty sure AC was joking... I was! The sarcasm was weak in that poster! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24002333 United States 10/05/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Thank you -- About 15 minutes in : 911 : Are you OK? Jake? Jake : I'm just thinking about my sister ... 911 : Yeah. How old is she? Jake : She's uh ... 15. 911 : 15? Jake : Yeah. She, I dunno, she had a really sweet side, but y'know, she was kind of racist, and I dunno, kind of rude to me sometimes ... 911 : (sympathetically) Yeah ... yeah. What an asshole. |
FatalW1shes (OP) User ID: 18009481 United States 10/05/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Thank you -- About 15 minutes in : 911 : Are you OK? Jake? Jake : I'm just thinking about my sister ... 911 : Yeah. How old is she? Jake : She's uh ... 15. 911 : 15? Jake : Yeah. She, I dunno, she had a really sweet side, but y'know, she was kind of racist, and I dunno, kind of rude to me sometimes ... 911 : (sympathetically) Yeah ... yeah. What an asshole. So is he sexist since he only killed his mom and sister? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25027937 United States 10/05/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' TWENTY MINUTES OF TERROR: SELECTED TRANSCRIPT BETWEEN JAKE EVANS AND 911 DISPATCH OPERATOR Quoting: FatalW1shes 911 Dispatch: Parker County 911, where is your emergency? Jake Evans: Uh, my house. 911: What’s the emergency? Evans: Uh, I just killed my mom and my sister. 911: What? How did you do that? Evans: Uh, I shot them with a .22 revolver. 911: Are you sure they’re dead? Evans: They’re dead. 911: Okay, I want you to stay on the phone with me. Are you alright? Evans: Yeah, I’m alright. (The gun) is on the kitchen counter. 911: Jake, are you on any medication? Evans: Uh, no. I’ve been going to the allergist, I’m on allergy medication. Other than Zyrtec and Advil and Pseudoephedrine, I don’t take anything else. 911: Is there any reason that you were so angry at your mother and your sister? Evans: I don’t know. … It’s weird. I wasn’t even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I’ve been kind of, uh, planning on, uh, killing for a while now. 911: The two of ‘em, or just anybody? Evans: Pretty much anybody. 911: Why? Evans: I don’t know. I don’t really like, uh, people’s, uh, attitude. … I think it’s kind of, very, like, you know, emotional. They’re verbally rude to each other and stuff like that. I don’t know. It’s just my family is just kind of really I guess this is really selfish to say, but I felt they were just suffocating me in a way. I don’t know, I’m pretty, I guess, evil…Whatever, I’m sorry. 911: Were your mom and sister in their beds? Evans: I don’t know. This is going to really mess me up in the future. I told my sister that my mom needed her. She was in her room, and she came out of her room, and I shot her. And she rolled down the stairs and I shot her again. And then I went down and I shot my mom maybe three or four times, but I’ll never forget this. My sister, she came downstairs and she was screaming and I was telling her that I’m sorry but just to hold still – that, you know, I was just going to make it go away. But she kept on freaking out, but she finally fell down and I shot her in the head about, probably, three or four times. 911: Are you in the kitchen? Evans: Yes. 911: Where’s your dad? Evans: He’s out of town. Washington, D.C. And, uh, I guess for future reference, I don’t really want to see any of my family members, like visiting or whatever. I just don’t want any type of visitors. 911: You don’t want to hurt yourself, do you? Evans: Just to let you know, I hate the feeling of killing someone. (Sighs) I’m going to be messed up. 911: You just take a deep breath. We have deputies coming, and they’re going to help you. Just to let you know, we’re going to help you, we’re not going to hurt you. Evans: I understand if ya’ll want to. 911: No, we’re there to help you, Jake. Everybody thinks we want to do bad things, but right or wrong, we want to help people, and we’re gonna help you. Do you understand that, Jake? Evans: Yes. 911: Is it a gated community? Is there a gate? Evans: Uh, yes. You want the password? (He gives her the password) 911: It’s going to be alright, it really is. They’ll be there shortly, won’t be long now. Jake, would you mind turning any of the porch lights on? Evans: I have turned the front lights on. (pauses) I was thinking of my sister. She was 15. 911: How long ago did (the shootings) happen? Evans: About, uh, 30 minutes ago. (breathes heavily) 911: You’ll be alright, Jake. Evans: I’m really worried about, like, nightmares and stuff like that. Are there any times of medications, and stuff? 911: Well, I think there is. I don’t know, I’m not a doctor but … I’m sure your family will get you the support you need. Evans: I don’t mean to sound like a wimp or anything, but this is, wow, I’ve never, like, done anything violent in my whole life. 911: You don’t sound like a violent person. But um, help will be provided for you. Medical and psychological. That will be provided, so you don’t have to worry about that right now. Take deep breaths for me now, you’re doing fine. In through your nose, and out through your mouth so you don’t hyperventilate, okay? Evans: (breathing) 911: Good, you sound a lot calmer right now. Evans: I didn’t want them to feel pain, that’s why I used a gun, but it’s like everything went wrong. 911: Jake, my officers are almost there, would you be willing to walk out on your own? Evans: Um, yes, I forgot to say before I called, I put the gun on the counter, it’s still loaded. 911: Okay, that’s fine. I’ll stay on the phone until it’s time for you to walk out. Are you on your home phone? Is it cordless? Evans: Yes. 911: Jake, what I want you do to is walk outside, but when you’re walking outside, stay visible, don’t walk behind any furniture. When you open the front door, put your hands up in the air, just walk very slowly, and walk outside, and keep your hands visible, alright, sweetie? I’ll talk to you later. Evans: Thank you (puts phone down) 911: You’re welcome. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook For some reason the Colordo shooter James Holmes comes to mind when I listened to the audio.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25033928 United States 10/05/2012 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' He's so calm, collected, thoughtful with his verbal choices... Quoting: Super Bowl Dave So bizarre. Oh well, I hope he enjoys prison for the rest of his life, assuming he isn't raped/murdered there. Have fun, kid. I was also homeschooled for a time due to illness, and I do not recommend it. Keeps you too isolated, and even though kids are little monsters, you need to learn how to interact with people when you're a kid. Uh, he is a product of the public school system. The video says he left school in January of this year to be homeschooled. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25033928 United States 10/05/2012 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' I have had the pleasure of living in a community where many are Homeschooled and (honestly) they are intelligent but nearly unemployable if the work deals with the public or demands indipendent thinking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16778386 You are clueless. Homeschooled kids are FAR more independent-thinking, and unlike YOU, they can spell INDEPENDENT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25033928 United States 10/05/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' This kid went to public school. He left only in January of this year to be homeschooled. Stop looking for an easy scapegoat topic like homeschooling. There are always more to these stories than people are willing to consider. Bad parenting, drugs, or just a bad, evil seed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13158115 United States 10/05/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Don't start! I homeschooled my 3 kids and they are MORE normal than most public school kids. They are successful members of society, one with a dual major degree that is working in her field AND a good mother, one working in industry, and the last is still in school. I am SICK to death of everyone thinking homeschooling is odd. It isn't. Most don't even do it for religious reasons, they do it to make sure their children can READ their diploma! Homeschooling IS odd. Or at least it generally ends up that way for most people. The Homeschooled kids I have met have a pretty fair grasp of academics but very little social skills at all. They also seem (for the most part) very brainwashed to one view or another. i.e. unable to think for themselves. That said, so long as proper socialization can happen- Homeschooling would be a good thing. It just doesnt seem to work that way usually. Also this has NOTHING to do with Homeschooling and from the audio it appears this bastard was in high School (a regular High School) until recently. This is about a society going out of control and dare I say- Evil. Yep this Iis what I've seen too, some people can do it properly. This kid was beyond home schooling or public school help however just pure sick and evil |
WretchedHollywood User ID: 3324945 United States 10/05/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Used to work with the insane population, this is what psychopathic behavior looks like, and it cannot be fixed Has nothing to do with schooling, home or otherwise "doesn't it make you feel better?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25002222 United States 10/05/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' He's so calm, collected, thoughtful with his verbal choices... Quoting: Super Bowl Dave So bizarre. Oh well, I hope he enjoys prison for the rest of his life, assuming he isn't raped/murdered there. Have fun, kid. I was also homeschooled for a time due to illness, and I do not recommend it. Keeps you too isolated, and even though kids are little monsters, you need to learn how to interact with people when you're a kid. Uh, he is a product of the public school system. The video says he left school in January of this year to be homeschooled. So he spent how many years in the public indoctrination system before that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9212254 United States 10/05/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Don't start! I homeschooled my 3 kids and they are MORE normal than most public school kids. They are successful members of society, one with a dual major degree that is working in her field AND a good mother, one working in industry, and the last is still in school. I am SICK to death of everyone thinking homeschooling is odd. It isn't. Most don't even do it for religious reasons, they do it to make sure their children can READ their diploma! Homeschooling IS odd. Or at least it generally ends up that way for most people. The Homeschooled kids I have met have a pretty fair grasp of academics but very little social skills at all. They also seem (for the most part) very brainwashed to one view or another. i.e. unable to think for themselves. That said, so long as proper socialization can happen- Homeschooling would be a good thing. It just doesnt seem to work that way usually. Also this has NOTHING to do with Homeschooling and from the audio it appears this bastard was in high School (a regular High School) until recently. This is about a society going out of control and dare I say- Evil. Home schooling is not odd. It's intelligent. But according to you, since home schoolers are different from you and have not been INDOCTRINATED BY THE STATE AND IGNORANT STATE WORKERS called "teachers" - they must be weird and unstable. I guess you consider yourself "normal." Too bad we all can't be "normal" like you. Do you see the irony in your statement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25035528 Japan 10/05/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' Don't turn it into an argument about schooling. Why do you people think that has anything to do with it, either way? Millions of people go to public schools and home schools, very few of them kill anyone like this. This is a very unusual thing. If he happened to be wearing a blue shirt when he did it, would you tards argue about whether blue shirts make people kill? The homeschool/public school debate in connection with this seems about as relevant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25027269 United States 10/05/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' He should be put out of his misery. Nice reckless guns ownership here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25027319 So, if he would have stabbed them with a knife... that would have been better? How about using a baseball bat? What part of mental illness do people not get? The gun wasn't even in "his" home, he stole it from the Grandfather. Was it locked up? Did he steal the key first? I don't know but you don't either. Quit with your liberal... "OMG!!! OMG!!! It's the guns, there would be no killing without guns!" Bullshit!!! There has been murders since time began, long before guns. GTFU & find the real problem. Ya, nothing like this happens in Europe where they are neutered spastic idiots... right? Not. I'll give you a little hint... He went to PUBLIC SCHOOL before this year (which we are only into by about ONE MONTH)... Mommy was a school teacher & an assistant Principle (more than likely statistically she parks it on the left). Have you seen what goes on in PUBLIC SCHOOLS? Crimes committed by the teachers themselves? I am in no way stating his mother did anything to him, I'm not stating she didn't because I do not have enough information to form an opinion either way regarding this. I am stating that PUBLIC SCHOOLING is being down played in this article. Ask yourself why? Do a little thinking here... I thought you were people to think a little more than a monkey with a keyboard! I have no idea what "illness" he suffers from but at least I can think beyond the GLP diagnoses of a month, maybe a month and a half, of homeschooling. Fuck, morons... get real. |
FatalW1shes (OP) User ID: 18009481 United States 10/05/2012 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Home schooling student, 17, tells 911 dispatcher that he shot dead his mother and 15-year-old sister after 'planning on killing for a while' He should be put out of his misery. Nice reckless guns ownership here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25027319 So, if he would have stabbed them with a knife... that would have been better? How about using a baseball bat? What part of mental illness do people not get? The gun wasn't even in "his" home, he stole it from the Grandfather. Was it locked up? Did he steal the key first? I don't know but you don't either. Quit with your liberal... "OMG!!! OMG!!! It's the guns, there would be no killing without guns!" Bullshit!!! There has been murders since time began, long before guns. GTFU & find the real problem. Ya, nothing like this happens in Europe where they are neutered spastic idiots... right? Not. I'll give you a little hint... He went to PUBLIC SCHOOL before this year (which we are only into by about ONE MONTH)... Mommy was a school teacher & an assistant Principle (more than likely statistically she parks it on the left). Have you seen what goes on in PUBLIC SCHOOLS? Crimes committed by the teachers themselves? I am in no way stating his mother did anything to him, I'm not stating she didn't because I do not have enough information to form an opinion either way regarding this. I am stating that PUBLIC SCHOOLING is being down played in this article. Ask yourself why? Do a little thinking here... I thought you were people to think a little more than a monkey with a keyboard! I have no idea what "illness" he suffers from but at least I can think beyond the GLP diagnoses of a month, maybe a month and a half, of homeschooling. Fuck, morons... get real. OooH. I like you. |