Bill introduced in Ohio would effectively ban concealed carry without repealing it.

God damn politicians, wtf are they thinking.

This country and it's future is hopeless...........reading the above statement pretty much putting me over the edge.

You are a complete and utter idiot and fool.

if someone came on your property carrying a gun i am sure it wont be a handgun.....you want to cower then do it but leave the rest alone this aint hippy central

It looks like "Wild Bill" Patraun and Teddy "Make my day" celeste want to be voted out of office. In Pennsylvania when concealed carry was passed The democrates said it would be like the wild west. Blood would flow in the streets. Fender benders would become shoot outs. Instead crime went down. There where no "shoot outs". The sky didn't fall. Law abiding people could protect themselves. Nothing bad happened.

this will go nowhere. our pro-gun republican majority will see to that.....

Seriously who gives a shit about their stupid laws. I ignore 90% of them. Laws are guidelines for idiots incapable of thinking on their own.

I will always carry my chrome no matter who says what. That's my personal choice. So that's two weapons I be concealing. The other is my Johnson.

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color of law; imitation legislation. they can create this bullshit all they want dont make it law unless the people decide to enact it as a common law practice; and this is just another unenforceable law.

besides imo guns wont be the key factor; they have become in a way insignificant; the biggest threat is awareness, and isolating the establishment via exposure and non participation; rendering the system illegitimate; which it is already.

this.

Thanks OP for the heads up. Although I don't think this bill would ever pass, it is good to keep it on the radar and watch it.

You sir,and use that term loosely, are a damn idiot and the reason that the left is trying to use BS such as this to circumvent the Constitution.

Once upon a time perhaps but no more thanks to all you dimwits who keep electing lying, cheating, stealing, psychotic, politicians.
Which, by the way, is all of them.

Complete horseshit, either you are trying to get people worked up or have no clue and have never even held a firearm.

Hey idiot, there is NO valid reason to circumvent the constitution NONE.
Any one who does so is a traitor and should be dealt with accordingly.

I cannot see this passing. Just two idiot Democrat legislators grandstanding. Outcry would be huge.

And another thing: every year I get an influx of morons from the city trespassing on my property to hunt dear.
My property is clearly marked.
I have been shot at more than once by some idiot that thought I was a dear, and I can show you the bullet holes in my shed which is only a short walk from my house.
Now I go into the woods armed, if you point a gun at me you are a dead man.

great catch by the OP but i do agree with the others that this won't pass. Gun owners are one of the few groups who are ready to take their concerns all the way to Washington, or state gov'ts, or wherever they have to in order to get their point across. NRA emails going out in 3, 2, 1....

First, I doubt it will pass, but it certainly is a first step attempt at limiting 2nd Amendment rights, and another reason "progressives" need to be removed from office.

Remember:
The key point here is concealed.

A person has the right to refuse a search, a search can only be conducted with probable cause. If anyone asks to search you -- REFUSE! Then leave. If they ask why you refuse, either do not answer or make some comment about not buying their excuse to feel someone up -- be insulted & indignant, then leave.

If the weapon is properly concealed, i.e. not in a shoulder holster bulging through a jacket, then they have zero cause to reasonably believe you are carrying.

Last Edited by LJS on 10/07/2012 09:20 AM

More Democrat treason. They'll try.
"For the children"

True about the Hollywood crap.

It always amuses me when, in a movie, when a character raises a gun and it makes that metallic clicking noise. You know, the one that sounds like it has a bunch of loose parts ready to fall off, lol!

Last Edited by LJS on 10/07/2012 09:23 AM

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It is already illegal to take a gun onto
private property without the property owners
knowledge and permission.


Unless you have a link I'm calling :BSFLAG; on this. There are State specific laws prohibiting trespassing and hunting without permission but once you trespass I don't know of any laws the describe what you can and cannot carry after the fact.

You bring a gun, ESPECIALLY a concealed gun
onto my property and I will shoot you dead
the second I discover it. No exceptions,
no questions.



This is the reason they use to bring up BS laws like this to begin with. At the least your an idiot, at worst a shill.

I've been on your property several times in the past couple of months, carry either and M&P 9 or my Glock 19, and I'm still alive.

Kiss my ass.

A little more complicated than that.

I assume you are posting from a prison computer? That is where you will end up for killing someone without reasonable belief your life is in danger. The mere fact someone is carrying concealed is insufficient. I carry concealed but am no threat to you or anybody else unless you attack me.

Chances are if you had a landscaper, or any other craftsman come by to give work estimates, they were carrying. They carry to protect themselves from crazies like you.

take your meds.

That is why I recommend people to be prepped fully & not even attempt to venture into the woods after SHTF for at least 6 weeks to allow for the first couple of death waves. Too many nuts with guns, who do not know what they are doing & will shoot at anything that moves.

Sorry, OP, I know -- a bit off topic.

I posted this here days ago...

A lot of paranoid [and probably antisocial] dangerous people in the world.

A while back, in some southern state I believe, a Japanese exchange student needed directions one night and knocked on someone's door. They just shot him dead, claimed they thought he was going to rob them or some such shit.

It's the freaks that give gun owners a bad name.

Based on the language of the proposed bill that has the words “person owns, controls” caused me to do some additional research on “who owns the property when it is mortgaged.”

While I trust nothing on the WWW when it comes to legal issues, I did find something that makes me take pause …

In some states, known as "title theory" states, the lender keeps the title and owns the house until the borrower pays off the loan. In "lien theory" states, the borrower holds the title and owns the house, but the mortgage note gives the lender the right to seize and sell the house for non-payment.
(found the above here [link to homeguides.sfgate.com]

If Ohio is a “Title Theory” State, then this proposed law could mean that the mortgage holder would need to provide permission to have a gun on “their” property.

Have fun with this little twist …