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The Truth About the "Recovery"

 
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A look behind the numbers, how the middle class is suffering from the Obama "Recovery"

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"If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno
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doesn't matter if they claim it's 7.8 or 8.1 or even 5.0

here is the reality


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pinned before even one response?

wow you must be special
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pinned before even one response?

wow you must be special
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yes I am

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We need manufacturing jobs to save the middle class
"If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno
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[link to washingtonexaminer.com]
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pinned before even one response?

wow you must be special
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yes I am

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A look behind the numbers, how the middle class is suffering from the Obama "Recovery"

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pinned before even one response?

wow you must be special
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yes I am

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Guess so

And you still obviously think that the President makes the decisions, lol

What a joke
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We need manufacturing jobs to save the middle class
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Yes in my adventure to safe humanity, i have stumpled accros a great idea. and that is!
To build a thing, a epic thing that will make the whole world marble, a thing that needs to be build
Only because it can be build..

whatever
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Yes in my adventure to safe humanity, i have stumpled accros a great idea. and that is!
To build a thing, a epic thing that will make the whole world marble, a thing that needs to be build
Only because it can be build..

whatever
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Pyramids! Lots of em!

By hand!
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Yes in my adventure to safe humanity, i have stumpled accros a great idea. and that is!
To build a thing, a epic thing that will make the whole world marble, a thing that needs to be build
Only because it can be build..

whatever
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Pyramids! Lots of em!

By hand!
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By spoon!!
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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Then move to China?
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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Nailed it. Excellent response.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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That's absolute crap coming from a baby. You work out everything before you begin, and if you've already started, then you keep on working it out. We have fuckin computers nowadays you know. And what do people call us liberals? Fuck off! Use the fuckin brain so us liberals don't have to save ya fuckin ass everytime.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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hint hint: cash only unicoperated business.....
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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That's absolute crap coming from a baby. You work out everything before you begin, and if you've already started, then you keep on working it out. We have fuckin computers nowadays you know. And what do people call us liberals? Fuck off! Use the fuckin brain so us liberals don't have to save ya fuckin ass everytime.
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You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'd love to see you come over here and start up a business WITHOUT government imigration assistance and make it. Good luck. You are full of it.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979


That's absolute crap coming from a baby. You work out everything before you begin, and if you've already started, then you keep on working it out. We have fuckin computers nowadays you know. And what do people call us liberals? Fuck off! Use the fuckin brain so us liberals don't have to save ya fuckin ass everytime.
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You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'd love to see you come over here and start up a business WITHOUT government imigration assistance and make it. Good luck. You are full of it.
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You are full of depending on others and not daring to use your own brain. I'll say it once more: make your own job - believe in yourself. Use your imagination. Your not living in some fucking North Korean jail.
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In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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That's absolute crap coming from a baby. You work out everything before you begin, and if you've already started, then you keep on working it out. We have fuckin computers nowadays you know. And what do people call us liberals? Fuck off! Use the fuckin brain so us liberals don't have to save ya fuckin ass everytime.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'd love to see you come over here and start up a business WITHOUT government imigration assistance and make it. Good luck. You are full of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11293979

You are full of depending on others and not daring to use your own brain. I'll say it once more: make your own job - believe in yourself. Use your imagination. Your not living in some fucking North Korean jail.
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It's ok to ask others to help you if you need it. But if I say "Listen i've got a great idea for you", then how many others are going to use that idea? Some times you really have to depend on other peoples LOVE, but once you've depended on someone's LOVE everything else that comes out of your brain must somehow be directed back to them. I'm not a religious person, so where is your imagination now? If it's all about yourself, then you can go fuck yourself.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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Where I'm at, people do anything just to survive and eat. The problem is that everyone is doing it and it's a race to the bottom.
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''''jobs to save the middle class?'''''

that is not the plan.....
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WHAT????
You mean manufacturing burgers and fries doesn't create enough wealth??

Remember when Democrat blasted "McJobs!". Don't hear that anymore, do ya!
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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I'm self-employed...

I spend around 950 hours a years ACTUALLY WORKING, about 100 hours a year fishing for more work, another 100 or so maintaining my equipment, about 150 hours a year on non-government clerical stuff, and about 800 hours a year on GOVERNMENT COMPLIANCE.

I'm in aviation.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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CLARITY...

NOW I CAN SEE...

YOU DID WAKE UP SOME SHEEPLE....

WATCH OUT...

I LIKED WHAT YOU SAID!!!

SO, AMEN BROTHER!!!

NOW WHAT???
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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Where I'm at, people do anything just to survive and eat. The problem is that everyone is doing it and it's a race to the bottom.
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Kinda reminds me of this...




Seriously though, making your job isn't a BAD idea (all the f'words aside) That's what I've done with my life. I NEVER look for a job. I work for me, always have, always will.
Fool me once, shame on you.....fool me twice shame on me.
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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
 Quoting: Libra II 1001450

In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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I'm self-employed...

I spend around 950 hours a years ACTUALLY WORKING, about 100 hours a year fishing for more work, another 100 or so maintaining my equipment, about 150 hours a year on non-government clerical stuff, and about 800 hours a year on GOVERNMENT COMPLIANCE.

I'm in aviation.
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BRAVO!!!

YOU ARE AN EXCEPTION...

CAN IT AND SELL IT!!!
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Our middle class is in China and it ain't coming back...
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I had my own business but it was luxury items. When Obama was elected, my business fell like a rock as people immediately began to fear what was ahead including the taxes and Obamacare.

Went from a nice supplemental income to not selling enough to pay the bills.

So I know the economy is a factor and not one that can be overcome with just a positive attitude.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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WTF is wrong with the f'n West nowadays? THERE ARE NO FUCKING JOBS. When there are no jobs you make your own job, you don't let all sorts of fuckin sacks of shit fuck around with you. Have you got a brain? Use it for fuck sake. Even if if you can only use your fuckin voice or hands - do it. Can you create a better game than snakes and ladders? Then fuckin do it. Are you perhaps a better inventor or innovator than others? Then fuckin prove it. Don't fuckin waste everyones fuckin time blaming it on Jews, Muslims and governments, just fuckin do it.
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In just the past two years, I have seen several small bisinesses open up in my area. They are all closed now. They could not make it with the huge overhead in taxes, fees and unfunded mandates they must comply with. 30 or 40 years ago your "just do it" attitude would work. Not today.
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As far as the FED is concerned that is the biggest load of crap I've heard today. Maybe your talking about your STATE?
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Well gee now that all the Unions are gone or about to be...Good luck with getting a decent wage. I mean look at your own chart man and read a paper. They killed workers rights along with lower your wages. The jokes on the slave.
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Maybe I see things differently but I know 4 people who have bought new cars and the real estate market in my area is not doing bad for an election year when it is typically way down. Everytime I go to the store, restaurants or anywhere which is often, people are out BUYING and spending. The dow doesn't look bad either...maybe I live in la la land as a self employed individual also.

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They dumbed us down...then lowered your wages...

Welcome back to 1980...





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