Is it possible that the California refineries ARE MAKING FUEL FOR THE MILITARY? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2116087 10/06/2012 03:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it possible that the California refineries ARE MAKING FUEL FOR THE MILITARY? Quoting: Gonviral WELL? A few weeks would supply for a WAR! Think about this...NO replys from any political powers...? just grin an bear the high prices..!! facts.. Torrance Refinery at a Glance... Employs nearly 800 people Covers 750 acres Processes an average of 155,000 barrels of crude oil per day Produces 1.8 billion gallons of gasoline per year Produces nearly 10 percent of the gasoline that is refined in California, most of which is sold in Southern California Provides jet fuel to Los Angeles International Airport via pipeline Other products of the refining process include liquefied petroleum gases, diesel fuel, petroleum coke and sulfur. OR...MABIE ITS TRUE..SHORTFALLS ARE EXPECTED..SO.. BEND OVER AN TAKE IT. yes |
| Gonviral (OP) User ID: 19420840 10/06/2012 04:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it possible that the California refineries ARE MAKING FUEL FOR THE MILITARY? Quoting: Gonviral WELL? A few weeks would supply for a WAR! Think about this...NO replys from any political powers...? just grin an bear the high prices..!! facts.. Torrance Refinery at a Glance... Employs nearly 800 people Covers 750 acres Processes an average of 155,000 barrels of crude oil per day Produces 1.8 billion gallons of gasoline per year Produces nearly 10 percent of the gasoline that is refined in California, most of which is sold in Southern California Provides jet fuel to Los Angeles International Airport via pipeline Other products of the refining process include liquefied petroleum gases, diesel fuel, petroleum coke and sulfur. OR...MABIE ITS TRUE..SHORTFALLS ARE EXPECTED..SO.. BEND OVER AN TAKE IT. yes IF WAR BREAKS OUT..THE MILITARY WILL NEED MORE fuel...right..so whats a few weeks of this mess..IN ORDER TO FOM A MORE PERFECT WHAT? |
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| Fred User ID: 24737670 10/06/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23981481 10/06/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting thought OP. I would usually test a thoery against past instances. For example, the 2003 invasion of Iraq. I know the initial attack ('shock and awe') took about a month or so, but I wonder if there's any correlation. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25056521 10/06/2012 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6.3$ for regular gas at station in Brawley: [link to www.californiagasprices.com] 6.9$ for Diesel at station in Irvine: [link to www.californiagasprices.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16932400 10/06/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? it's not just you. it's the same over here. we're either being scammed, or OP is onto something. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24381831 10/06/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? In order to cause such a large spike in gas prices, a major event must be underway. There is no way that a refinery fire that happened two months ago is going to cause this kind of price surge. Either the US is in preparation for a major war or some event will take place that will cause a major disruption in gasoline production/delivery and this is just the market reacting in advance. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25056521 10/06/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? In order to cause such a large spike in gas prices, a major event must be underway. There is no way that a refinery fire that happened two months ago is going to cause this kind of price surge. Either the US is in preparation for a major war or some event will take place that will cause a major disruption in gasoline production/delivery and this is just the market reacting in advance. Yes. Its really strange. |
| Black Diamond User ID: 20028740 10/06/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? In order to cause such a large spike in gas prices, a major event must be underway. There is no way that a refinery fire that happened two months ago is going to cause this kind of price surge. Either the US is in preparation for a major war or some event will take place that will cause a major disruption in gasoline production/delivery and this is just the market reacting in advance. Like I have been saying for over 2 months the oil men hate Obama.I stated ,several times, that gasoline would be @ 5$ a gallon by November 6 ,2012 ....that is election day here in the U.S. I under estimated,I'm in California, so gasoline is pushing 6$ per gallon. This is politics 2012 and this is just one of the October surprises poppy Bush has in store for you. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25056521 10/06/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? In order to cause such a large spike in gas prices, a major event must be underway. There is no way that a refinery fire that happened two months ago is going to cause this kind of price surge. Either the US is in preparation for a major war or some event will take place that will cause a major disruption in gasoline production/delivery and this is just the market reacting in advance. Like I have been saying for over 2 months the oil men hate Obama.I stated ,several times, that gasoline would be @ 5$ a gallon by November 6 ,2012 ....that is election day here in the U.S. I under estimated,I'm in California, so gasoline is pushing 6$ per gallon. This is politics 2012 and this is just one of the October surprises poppy Bush has in store for you. But why only in California? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24381831 10/06/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISC fuel farms are always full - there is no place to store "extra" fuel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931117 They could be asking refineries to hold fuel aside in there own tank systems, or even loaded on tankers. California fuel being high could be explained by local mishaps. But why nationwide is gas unusually high with respect to crude oil prices? In order to cause such a large spike in gas prices, a major event must be underway. There is no way that a refinery fire that happened two months ago is going to cause this kind of price surge. Either the US is in preparation for a major war or some event will take place that will cause a major disruption in gasoline production/delivery and this is just the market reacting in advance. Like I have been saying for over 2 months the oil men hate Obama.I stated ,several times, that gasoline would be @ 5$ a gallon by November 6 ,2012 ....that is election day here in the U.S. I under estimated,I'm in California, so gasoline is pushing 6$ per gallon. This is politics 2012 and this is just one of the October surprises poppy Bush has in store for you. Look, at this stage, anything is possible. Both sides are now using the "conspiracy" word. They are accusing eachother of fabricating jobs reports, cheating during the debate, etc. So I won't say that it is impossible. However, with all the stuff we have been following, I think that it is not the most likely cause of the price spike. What is the most likely cause? That, my friend, is the $64k question and that is why we are here on GLP. |
| Black Diamond User ID: 20028740 10/06/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why California ? They are making an example of a state that would still vote Obama even if they had a live feed of him personally detonating a 500 million pound gigaton nuke triggering the San Andreas fault and blowing us into the Pacific ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24381831 10/06/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why California ? They are making an example of a state that would still vote Obama even if they had a live feed of him personally detonating a 500 million pound gigaton nuke triggering the San Andreas fault and blowing us into the Pacific ! Quoting: Black Diamond 20028740 I don't think that this event that is upon was planned by "they." Whatever is about to take place is beyond the control of TPTB. That's why they have been preparing for years. |
| Black Diamond User ID: 20028740 10/06/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why California ? They are making an example of a state that would still vote Obama even if they had a live feed of him personally detonating a 500 million pound gigaton nuke triggering the San Andreas fault and blowing us into the Pacific ! Quoting: Black Diamond 20028740 I don't think that this event that is upon was planned by "they." Whatever is about to take place is beyond the control of TPTB. That's why they have been preparing for years. Hell,you are going to have to do better than that. Please elaborate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23406708 10/06/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | California uses a special summer gasoline blend that is not produced outside the state... There are 18 refineries in California (excluding asphalt refineries) only 8 refine over 100k/day... 2 of the 8 major refineries were down this week..... Among the recent disruptions, an Aug. 6 fire at a Chevron Corp. refinery in Richmond that left one of the region's largest refineries producing at a reduced capacity, and a Chevron pipeline that moves crude oil to Northern California also was shut down. Exxon Mobil Corp. said a refinery in Torrance returned to normal operations Friday after the power failure Monday disrupted production for most of the week. State officials said with the refinery coming back online, prices should start falling. Gasoline inventories in California, however, are still at their lowest point in more than 10 years, a situation made worse by the mandate for the special summer gasoline blend. Few refineries outside the state can make it, meaning there are few outside sources to draw from for help, Cinquegrana said. [link to www.foxnews.com] background on CA refineries - energyalmanac.ca.gov |
| Billxam User ID: 19542178 10/06/2012 06:31 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it possible that the California refineries ARE MAKING FUEL FOR THE MILITARY? Quoting: Gonviral WELL? A few weeks would supply for a WAR! No, please no. Here comes the super secret government sources and the gullible hosts and the damn articles. Right on the heels of the big fake Navy/Chinese/UFO battle off the west coast too. No, I have it! They're making super secret alternative UFO fuel for the Chinese at the secret bases in the desert! Oh, oh, even better. They've been taken over by the Russian troops and the invasion has begun. Reality Dysfunction has occurred. Please reboot reality. Thank you. |