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Make gas from fire wood

 
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Make gas from fire wood
I'm sure this has been posted before but here it is:




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Re: Make gas from fire wood
It is a 10 part series, but the last 3 are repeats
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
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Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
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You are Ignorant
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10/06/2012 07:39 AM
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Well made point, but I don't see how it gets you anywhere.
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
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You are Ignorant
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And you've obviously never taken a walk in the woods.
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5012927


You are Ignorant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


And you've obviously never taken a walk in the woods.
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Own 10 acres with 400 foot of river frontage

you guys that are dreaming of "Free gas" ....keep doing just that, Dreaming.....everything has a price and deforestation and air pollution from the wood smoke is too high a price to pay for me.
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Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5012927


You are Ignorant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


And you've obviously never taken a walk in the woods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25002222


Own 10 acres with 400 foot of river frontage

you guys that are dreaming of "Free gas" ....keep doing just that, Dreaming.....everything has a price and deforestation and air pollution from the wood smoke is too high a price to pay for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Fuck off idiot its ok for you being a rich maggot with your 10 acres of Al Gore bio degradable property.
You don't get to tell everyone else what to do because you're a rich maggot.
Probably spent your life scamming people to buy your shit.
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Let's just keep deforesting for TP and cheez it boxes instead!

Ignorant.


If you ever go to a forest you will find plenty of dead wood to use. The forest makes more every year. If sustainable management practices are used you will be able to use a single parcel of land to produce a renewable supply forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5012927


You are Ignorant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


And you've obviously never taken a walk in the woods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25002222


Own 10 acres with 400 foot of river frontage

you guys that are dreaming of "Free gas" ....keep doing just that, Dreaming.....everything has a price and deforestation and air pollution from the wood smoke is too high a price to pay for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Your argument is hollow. Sustainable practices are not and have never been used by the forestry industry. If wood smoke is so horrible, naturally occurring forest fires should have wiped all life on this planet out long ago. How about instead of wasting your time debunking the truth you go do some research and cure your ignorance.
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You are Ignorant
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And you've obviously never taken a walk in the woods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25002222


Own 10 acres with 400 foot of river frontage

you guys that are dreaming of "Free gas" ....keep doing just that, Dreaming.....everything has a price and deforestation and air pollution from the wood smoke is too high a price to pay for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


Fuck off idiot its ok for you being a rich maggot with your 10 acres of Al Gore bio degradable property.
You don't get to tell everyone else what to do because you're a rich maggot.
Probably spent your life scamming people to buy your shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25057723


What's the matter Dundee??....you "down under" your "boyfriend" again.

By the 47% standard some would call me rich....by Mitt and his crones standard, I'm dirt poor.
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10/06/2012 08:15 AM
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Re: Make gas from fire wood
If you keep removing fallen branches you will keep removing the minerals those trees need to grow.

Now I do own a gas guzler, but I also own a hybrid that I converted to run on electricity I make from my home made solar panels & my home made wind mills.

Most of my trips use no gas.

I don't do it because of the environment, I do it because I'm really, really' REALLY, cheap.
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If you keep removing fallen branches you will keep removing the minerals those trees need to grow.

Now I do own a gas guzler, but I also own a hybrid that I converted to run on electricity I make from my home made solar panels & my home made wind mills.

Most of my trips use no gas.

I don't do it because of the environment, I do it because I'm really, really' REALLY, cheap.
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You could also use the leaves instead of branches. There is a thick black ash left over that is rich with trace minerals, concentrated ya know? Spread that back out, and let nature do it's thing.
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10/06/2012 09:49 AM

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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


OP that really is a great series on wood gas. the delivery by the T man is down to earth. I have begun to download the content to store the information that i hope to never use. :)

The reason i Quoted this AC is to emphasize the need for common sense. Without watching the AC jumps to conclusions that are baseless. No were does he claim this to be a permanent solution. This is in fact knowledge important to know.

When, If, SHTF .. Information like this will be very valuable to community's everywhere.

To be able to start a generator and run it for several hours pumping well water is terrific.

Shower time will be much more present with running water, hot water.

Thanks OP,,

Oh yea: be sure if your a prepper kind, to store the information on Flash-drives. External Hard drives in a Faraday cage.

Keep an old laptop in the same !!

peace
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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


OP that really is a great series on wood gas. the delivery by the T man is down to earth. I have begun to download the content to store the information that i hope to never use. :)

The reason i Quoted this AC is to emphasize the need for common sense. Without watching the AC jumps to conclusions that are baseless. No were does he claim this to be a permanent solution. This is in fact knowledge important to know.

When, If, SHTF .. Information like this will be very valuable to community's everywhere.

To be able to start a generator and run it for several hours pumping well water is terrific.

Shower time will be much more present with running water, hot water.

Thanks OP,,

Oh yea: be sure if your a prepper kind, to store the information on Flash-drives. External Hard drives in a Faraday cage.

Keep an old laptop in the same !!

peace
 Quoting: boilerbengal


So the OP just happened to stumble upon this vid on "Making GAS from wood" right at the time we are having a mini-crisis in Cali over gas shortage and decided to post it here on GLP...Yeaaaaa RIGHT!

and as for seeing it...already had.
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10/06/2012 10:22 AM
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i think FEMA has good plans out for building wood gas producers from the last time there was a fuel crisis.

[link to www.allpowerlabs.org]

at least wood is a renewable resource
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10/06/2012 10:30 AM
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Re: Make gas from fire wood
I'm sure this has been posted before but here it is:





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Great info OP ...Thank you so much!hf
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10/06/2012 10:30 AM
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Coal to Gasoline

[link to oilprice.com]

US coal deposits contain 12 X as much energy as all known oil in Saudi Arabia

The Adams Fork Energy project will convert regional coal into premium-grade gasoline, producing 18,000 barrels per day (756,000 gallons US, 2.86 million liters). When fully developed, the Adams Fork project will be the largest coal-to-gasoline project in the world, according to Adam Victor, President and CEO of TransGas Development Systems.

The project team has been issued a permit to construct by the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection and plans to begin work on the site during the second quarter of 2011.
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the only thing that guy is making is meth. guaranteed!!11

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WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!!

Yea that's the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


OP that really is a great series on wood gas. the delivery by the T man is down to earth. I have begun to download the content to store the information that i hope to never use. :)

The reason i Quoted this AC is to emphasize the need for common sense. Without watching the AC jumps to conclusions that are baseless. No were does he claim this to be a permanent solution. This is in fact knowledge important to know.

When, If, SHTF .. Information like this will be very valuable to community's everywhere.

To be able to start a generator and run it for several hours pumping well water is terrific.

Shower time will be much more present with running water, hot water.

Thanks OP,,

Oh yea: be sure if your a prepper kind, to store the information on Flash-drives. External Hard drives in a Faraday cage.

Keep an old laptop in the same !!

peace
 Quoting: boilerbengal


So the OP just happened to stumble upon this vid on "Making GAS from wood" right at the time we are having a mini-crisis in Cali over gas shortage and decided to post it here on GLP...Yeaaaaa RIGHT!

and as for seeing it...already had.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028898


who gives a shit how the OP stumbled on the video..... ???

your comments about burning down all the forests was silly!! and if in fact you had watched this set of vid's i'm still unsure how the fuck you would make that jump. my Opinion is your so green mentally you cant see straight. you see " From Wood" and all you go into Green mode.

""" WOW!!! Great Idea....Let's burn all the forest down to make Gas sooooo we can run down to wally mart for some cheap ass chink shit and swing into the mickey dee's for a BIG MAC!!! """

face it your a goof ball !!
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10/06/2012 11:10 AM
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Something they never associate with pyrolysis and gasifiers is all they do is crack hydrocarbons and they don't care what the hydrocarbon feed stock is.
You can feed them wood, paper, cardboard, plastic, even used oil and it will be cracked into a lighter hydrocarbon.
If you add a catalytic component and moisture you also get water cracking and more stable hydrocarbons that resemble the output from a refinery. If you set one up be ready for Johnny law to accuse you of running a meth lab, because most cops are too dumb to know the difference.
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Something they never associate with pyrolysis and gasifiers is all they do is crack hydrocarbons and they don't care what the hydrocarbon feed stock is.
You can feed them wood, paper, cardboard, plastic, even used oil and it will be cracked into a lighter hydrocarbon.
If you add a catalytic component and moisture you also get water cracking and more stable hydrocarbons that resemble the output from a refinery. If you set one up be ready for Johnny law to accuse you of running a meth lab, because most cops are too dumb to know the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225

You can use coal in a gasafier too.
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10/06/2012 11:22 AM
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what about Gas made from decaying dead human bodies?

It's also a renewable source, grows faster than trees and it's way less useful in the big scheme of things.
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half the trucks in england ran on producer gas (from coal) during ww2. any kettering cycle (spark fired) engine can be converted. the downside is convenience. there's no just jump in and run to the store. producer plants are incredibly simple to make, but the gas also has its downside. you burn (in the engine) a fuel that is mostly hydrogen, and CO. the tailpipe emits MORE CO2 than a gasoline engine (the burn process converts the CO into CO2), and HIGHLY corrosive hydrogen peroxide (that means markedly decreased engine longevity, as well as such parts as the exhaust system). the system is "practical", but it is far from "green". the vast majority of americans would never embrace such systems, as actually starting your car from "cold" would be a 20 minute or so operation. you also need to carry a supply of the raw fuel stock (wood, coal, camel dung, etc). it's much more practical for stationary power production, really
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half the trucks in england ran on producer gas (from coal) during ww2. any kettering cycle (spark fired) engine can be converted. the downside is convenience. there's no just jump in and run to the store. producer plants are incredibly simple to make, but the gas also has its downside. you burn (in the engine) a fuel that is mostly hydrogen, and CO. the tailpipe emits MORE CO2 than a gasoline engine (the burn process converts the CO into CO2), and HIGHLY corrosive hydrogen peroxide (that means markedly decreased engine longevity, as well as such parts as the exhaust system). the system is "practical", but it is far from "green". the vast majority of americans would never embrace such systems, as actually starting your car from "cold" would be a 20 minute or so operation. you also need to carry a supply of the raw fuel stock (wood, coal, camel dung, etc). it's much more practical for stationary power production, really
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Stationary is the least work for the end user, but then you have big corporations still in control of the supply chain.
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I made one a few years ago, but I never got all the filters made to clean the gas enough for engine fuel.
It needed a bubbler to remove the tars, and a silica filter to remove moisture.
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half the trucks in england ran on producer gas (from coal) during ww2. any kettering cycle (spark fired) engine can be converted. the downside is convenience. there's no just jump in and run to the store. producer plants are incredibly simple to make, but the gas also has its downside. you burn (in the engine) a fuel that is mostly hydrogen, and CO. the tailpipe emits MORE CO2 than a gasoline engine (the burn process converts the CO into CO2), and HIGHLY corrosive hydrogen peroxide (that means markedly decreased engine longevity, as well as such parts as the exhaust system). the system is "practical", but it is far from "green". the vast majority of americans would never embrace such systems, as actually starting your car from "cold" would be a 20 minute or so operation. you also need to carry a supply of the raw fuel stock (wood, coal, camel dung, etc). it's much more practical for stationary power production, really
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24990026

Stationary is the least work for the end user, but then you have big corporations still in control of the supply chain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225


that depends entirely on scale. here in florida, when we have our electicity knocked out for weeks at a time by a hurricane, lots of folks run gennies to power their homes. if they run on gasoline or propane (kettering engines), they can be converted to producer gas. the shop i work in uses diesel powered compressors to operate our sand blasting operation, those could just as easily be run with kettering engines and producer gas. the producer gas can also be used as a burning fuel, for hot water, steam, home heating, etc. (of course, you could also use the raw fuel fed to the producer plant for these purposes, or capture waste heat from the gassifier itself). it would adapt well to small grid or off grid power. run the gennie on producer, and charge up an electric car is an example of using it to give "instant on" driving like we lazy americans expect. stationary use would also allow building engines that resist corrosion from the actual fuel, while not paying the penalty of carrying the extra weight in a vehicle (stainless steel parts weigh MUCH more than aluminum, as an example). there is already lots of industrial use of gassification for heat. one could use gassification of waste material for the heat and motive energy required for producing biodiesel from waste, as a single example. it has many practical uses, but just converting your honda really isnt one of them

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