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The Spooks are leaking what everyone already knew; the White House had all information made available to them about Libya-including that their terrorists were in cahoots with EGYPT and Iran. But, easier to let the ambassador die than to look bad before an election.

Disgusting.

“The Obama Administration is afraid to admit al Qaeda is running rampant throughout the region because it would expose the truth instead of what President Obama so pompously spouted during the Democratic Convention” said the official."

[link to freebeacon.com]
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bill gertz usually knows his stuff and there is no reason to doubt what he says this time either. this is explosive and if we had an honest media or if obama was a republican we would have blaring headlines telling this country about the incompetence of this white house and our state department especially weeks before an election.

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The Spooks are leaking what everyone already knew; the White House had all information made available to them about Libya-including that their terrorists were in cahoots with EGYPT and Iran. But, easier to let the ambassador die than to look bad before an election.

Disgusting.

“The Obama Administration is afraid to admit al Qaeda is running rampant throughout the region because it would expose the truth instead of what President Obama so pompously spouted during the Democratic Convention” said the official."

[link to freebeacon.com]
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bill gertz usually knows his stuff and there is no reason to doubt what he says this time either. this is explosive and if we had an honest media or if obama was a republican we would have blaring headlines telling this country about the incompetence of this white house and our state department especially weeks before an election.

great thread and 5 *
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I don't get it, it is not as if the folks at The George Bush Center for Intelligence were not against him all along...
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this "cover up" is worse? Different than the Towers? Who was pres then? You really think it is "The President" ? geeeze the cabal is using him too, he is not one of them and you are all too blind to see....gonna be begging for Romney are you?
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Actually, I think it can be good. They are letting the American people know what's going on and how Obama is trying to cover up what he has done and what a total failure his policies really are.

Couple this with the Navy Seal who wrote the book about bin Laden that contradicts Obama's version and we are seeing the formation of quite a pattern here.

Worst foreign police EVER!
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Agreed bluebird!
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Not even gonna read anymore of this bullshit. Maybe if the fucking CIA quit playing GD games and using diplomats as fucking pawns... the current administration wouldn't have to make these types of difficult choices.
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LOL... that's new...

At least you didn't blame Bush, but the refrain is always the same.

Blame someone else.. Blame someone else...
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LOL... Daddy Bush is the CIA for crying out loud. He used to be it's Director. As far as blame is concerned... people seem to think it's okay to blame Obama... but not the people who've been engineering this GD mess from behind the scenes for the past 50+ years. Get real, willya???
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As long as they're not turning on my brain scrambler any more, we're good.

Someone needs to fix that switchboard. I keep getting all the Al Gore cluster headaches redirected to me.



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Not even gonna read anymore of this bullshit. Maybe if the fucking CIA quit playing GD games and using diplomats as fucking pawns... the current administration wouldn't have to make these types of difficult choices.
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LOL... that's new...

At least you didn't blame Bush, but the refrain is always the same.

Blame someone else.. Blame someone else...
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LOL... Daddy Bush is the CIA for crying out loud. He used to be it's Director. As far as blame is concerned... people seem to think it's okay to blame Obama... but not the people who've been engineering this GD mess from behind the scenes for the past 50+ years. Get real, willya???
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Daddy Bush is barely in charge of his faculties these days and very elderly anda frail. He is not anything any more.

And it's strictly OBAMA who supported the Muslim Brotherhood and the Arab spring while the rest of the world wondered WTH he was doing.
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[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

What is Occupy Wall Street
21 hours ago
co-sponsor John McCain
co-sponsored the bill – Carl Levin
1021 and 1022 are controversial provisions that the people of the United States have been led to believe IS is the NDAA . That is a GROSS manipulation of facts. The NDAA is in it's entirety the Budget for Military spending and defense...Indefinite detention (1021 & 1022) are " provisions" that are a "Part" of NDAA, which besides many othe
r provisions specifies the budget and expenditures of the United States Department of Defense.

The bill passed the U.S. House 283 to 136 votes.

President Obama DID NOT "approve" indefinite detention, he eventually "approved" the NDAA. This was only after lengthy debate to change the 2 bills members of Congress added (Unable to find "sponsor" which is odd, but co sponsors include Carl Levin and John McCain). Remember when the military might not get their pay headlines were out? That was because NDAA (Like the Budget Congress has failed to arrive at yet) is funding in entirety for massive agencies and services, such as military pay, Veterans Hospitals, etc....

The NDAA "BUDGET" had to be passed. So after the two tries to push it through, eventually Obama did "approve" the budget.

What is important for people to realize, number one Congress has the power to Pass laws they want to over riding the President anyway with a 2/3 vote(which we know the crony/cohorts/congressional Gadaffi's) would have no problem managing to do...Number two is the little know little discussed fact that President Obama fought to have these two provisions removed....AND even MORE importantly though before you say it doesn't matter he signed it....read the wording.....

Indefinite detention states that it is "AFFIRMING" the authority....you getting it yet people?

The AUMF Bill was written in by BUSH in 01 or 02... post 9 11, a detention bill by another name...see the game? Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) already grants authority for indefinite detention, What the new Act "indefinite detention 1021 AND 1022 state is that Congress "affirms" this authority and makes specific provisions as to the exercise of that authority.

The BILL was already in effect> CONGRESS made a big deal about "REAFFIRMING" this existing bill.....with the aiding and abetting of MSM Like CNN and FOX only so the

American People would blame Barak Obama . ...who By the Way Fought to have the provisions removed and then clarified to state that it only meant combatants captured Over SEAS. This period was reported by MSMs as he was just holding up pay for soldiers because he wouldn't sign the NDAA and threatened to VETO, with no mention of it revolved
around issues relating to 1021 and 1022.

Title X, Subtitle D, entitled "Counter-Terrorism." In particular, sub-sections 1021 and 1022, which deal with detention of persons the government suspects of involvement in
terrorism. The controversy was to their legal meaning and potential implications for abuse of Presidential authority. Although the White House and Senate sponsors maintain that the
Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) already grants presidential authority for indefinite detention, the Act states that Congress "affirms" this authority and makes specific
provisions as to the exercise of that authority.

The detention sections of the NDAA begin by "affirm[ing]" that the authority of the President under the AUMF, a joint resolution passed in the immediate aftermath of the September
11, 2001 attacks, includes the power to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person (including U.S. citizens) "who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or
associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners", and anyone who commits a "belligerent act" against the U.S. or its coalition allies in
aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, "without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF]"

*PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT RECORDS DO SHOW> (wikipedia will do and then you can go to source links from there if you like)

That An amendment to the Act that would have replaced current text with a requirement for executive clarification of detention authorities was rejected by the Senate.

During debate on the senate floor, Levin stated that "Administration officials (Obama Administration people) reviewed the draft language for this provision and recommended

additional changes. We were able to accommodate those recommendations, except for the Administration (Obama) request that the provision apply only to detainees captured

overseas. This is a direct quote from Levin....They had it all set and good to go ....except for the Administration (Obama's) request that "the provision apply only to detainees

captured overseas". This is a direct quote from Levin....the Administration (Obama's) request that "the provision apply only to detainees captured overseas

The White House threatened to veto the 2nd Senate version of the Act, arguing in an executive statement on 17 November 2011 that while

"the authorities granted by the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, including the detention authority... are essential to our ability to protect the American
people... (and) Because the authorities codified in this section already exist, the Administration does not believe codification is necessary and poses some risk.

The signing statement which accompanied the Presidents approval for the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act Budget) furthermore went on and "objected to the mandate
for "military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects," which it called inconsistent with "the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets."

Now currently this "affirmed" bill has a final statement from Obama saying that "the authorities granted by the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, including the

detention authority... codified in this section already exist... the Administration does not believe the additional codification is necessary and poses some risk." AND

The President Officially "objected to the mandate for "military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects," which it called inconsistent with "the fundamental American principle

that our military does not patrol our streets."

Obama has consistently come out Against :
Corporate tax loops
Has supported green energy (Solyndra was a hostile takeover manipulated through a Wall St. sale of 71% outside ownership of stocks...we want wind and solar to succeed don't we?)
Has encouraged us to demand the change within Washington FROM the outside.

HAS SPONSORED 37 Bills going back to like 2002 ...here are a few examples...

Senator Obama cosponsored extension of Violence Against Women Act (S. 1197), which passed the Senate on October 4, 2005, and was signed into law.

The Curtailing Lobbyist Effectiveness through Advance Notification, Updates, and Posting Act (The CLEAN UP Act) (S. 2179)

The Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act (S. 2259)
The bill would create an outside ethics commission to receive complaints from the public on alleged ethics violations by members of Congress, staff, and lobbyists.

Senator Obama is one of the authors of the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act (S. 2180). The bill would lengthen the cooling off period to two years for lawmakers and staff who seek to become lobbyists, and it would require immediate disclosure as soon as any job negotiations begin.

He also introduced the Healthy Communities Act (S. 2047) to identify and address problems in communities that are at high risk from environmental contaminants. In addition, recognizing the contribution of housing, parks, trails, roadways, and public transportation to healthy lifestyles, Senator Obama introduced the Healthy Places Act (S. 2506) to assess and support improvements to the built environment.

Senator Obama is also an original cosponsor of the Home Lead Safety Tax Credit Act (S. 2053), which would provide tax credits to property owners who eliminate or contain paint hazards in homes where low-income young children or women of child-bearing age live.

Senator Obama introduced legislation to prevent another tragedy in which the poor and elderly are left behind during a natural disaster or terrorist attack. His proposal, which was included in the recent port security law, requires states and localities to have emergency evacuation plans in place that take into account the special needs of senior citizens.

Senator Obama cosponsored Dru's Law (S. 792) which creates a nationwide sex offender database and requires greater monitoring of sex offenders upon their release from prison.
The bill passed the Senate on July 28, 2005.

Senator Obama offered three amendments that were included in the Senate bill. The first amendment strengthens the requirement that a job be offered at a prevailing wage to American workers before it is offered to a guestworker. The second amendment makes it simple, but mandatory, for employers to verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States. And the third amendment authorizes $3 million a year for the FBI to improve the speed and accuracy of the background checks required for immigrants seeking to become citizens.

Senator Obama, working with Senator Lautenberg, introduced tough legislation to drastically improve security at our nation's chemical plants. The Chemical Safety and Security Act (S. 2486) would establish a clear set of federal regulations that all plants must follow. Plants that are considered a high risk to large population areas or critical infrastructure would
face more stringent standards.

**Nuclear Waste
Within the past five years, three nuclear power plants have reported missing spent fuel. Senator Obama introduced the Spent Nuclear Fuel Tracking and Accountability Act (S. 1194), which would establish specific and uniform guidelines for tracking, controlling, and accounting for individual spent fuel rods or segments at nuclear power plants, including procedures for conducting physical inventories. These provisions were included in S. 864, which passed the Senate Environment and Public Works (EPW) Committee on June 8, 2005. (No SURPRISE THOUGH THIS ONE STILL HAS NOT CLEARED HOUSE AND SENATE AS FAR AS I CAN DETERMINE)


Shall we look at what Mitt Romney was busy doing before he wanted to be President? I was nice and searched all the way back to before 2000.
[link to thomas.loc.gov]

Listing of 3 bills containing your phrase exactly as entered.

1 . [112th] To amend the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to require annual disclosures relating to the compensation brackets in which an issuer's minority and women employees reside. (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3791.IH ][PDF]
2 . [107th] Whereas the State of Utah hosted the world during the largest and most successful Olympic Winter Games ever held; (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.RES.363.EH ][PDF]
3 . [107th] Whereas the State of Utah hosted the world during the largest and most successful Olympic Winter Games ever held; (Introduced in House - IH)[H.RES.363.IH ][PDF]
LMAO 2 congratulations mentioning him for Utah Olympics, and I'll be damned if I can find where he is mentioned in the first one. HE HAS DONE NOTHING except hosted the Olympics.
After Losing his bid for a Senate seat in 1994
Romney stated, "Ultimately, this is a campaign about change." lmao Romney in 1994 run for senate seat. The day after the election, Romney returned to Bain Capital, but the loss had a lasting effect; he told his brother, "I never want to run for something again unless I can win".
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Propaganda Machines CNN and Fox News who have both been creaming their jeans falling all over Mitt Romney with all their graphs blaming Barack Obama for the deficit...I personally am sick of listening to spin that has become blatant LIES to the American people. CBPP: "the tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the economic downturn together explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years." In a December 16, 2009, analysis of federal deficits, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities stated, "Some critics charge that the new policies pursued by President Obama and the 111th Congress generated the huge federal budget deficits that the nation now faces. In fact, the tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the economic downturn together explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years." CBPP included the following chart illustrating various factors' relative effects on current and projected deficits: [link to www.cbpp.org]


Bush Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook

Some commentators blame recent legislation — the stimulus bill and the financial rescues — for today’s record deficits. Yet those costs pale next to other policies enacted since 2001 that have swollen the deficit. Those other policies may be less conspicuous now, because many were enacted years ago and they have long since been absorbed into CBO’s and other organizations’ budget projections.

Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for almost $7 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019, including the associated debt-service costs. [6] (The prescription drug benefit enacted in 2003 accounts for further substantial increases in deficits and debt, which we are unable to quantify due to data limitations.) These impacts easily dwarf the stimulus and financial rescues. Furthermore, unlike those temporary costs, these inherited policies (especially the tax cuts and the drug benefit) do not fade away as the economy recovers (see Figure 1).A recent Heritage Foundation report claims that tax cuts and other policies initiated during the Bush administration are not a significant factor behind the deficits we face in the coming decade.[10] Heritage places blame for the deficits squarely on rapid growth in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest costs, and dismisses the significance of weak revenues in general and the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts in particular. But Heritage’s analysis is both misguided and seriously misleading.

Heritage ignores the fact that rapidly-rising interest costs — one of its “culprits” behind rising outlays — result in significant part from the tax cuts and other fiscal policies of the Bush era . The tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan accounted for over $2.6 trillion of our national debt by the end of 2008 and, if continued, will add another $7 trillion in debt by 2019. In that year alone, about $450 billion of our interest bill will stem from those two policies. It is disingenuous to tar interest as a “fast-growing” spending program while ignoring which policies — including tax cuts — account for that fact.

Heritage ignores the fact that the share of deficits accounted for by the Bush-era tax cuts will grow in future years as the impact of the economic downturn on deficits diminishes . Because the economic downturn and efforts to combat it have such a large effect on the deficit in 2010, the share of the deficit accounted for by the tax cuts seems relatively modest; we estimate that the tax cuts account for about one quarter of the 2010 deficit. But as the effects of the downturn recede, the tax cuts will account for a much larger share. In 2019, the tax cuts, if continued, will account for nearly three-fifths of the deficit. And, despite the growing impact of rising health care costs and the continued aging of the population after 2019, the tax cuts will continue to have a major impact on the deficit. Including the interest costs, the Bush-era tax cuts account for over $700 billion — or nearly 55 percent — of the deficit projected for 2019 under current policies. [link to abcnews.go.com]

Biden recounted that within the first week of being in office, Larry Summers, a top economic adviser to the president, warned newly inaugurated President Obama of the deficit the country faced.

“We were sitting in the oval office, and Larry Summers, the chief economic adviser, and the economic team came in and said ‘Mr. President, looking at this year’s budget you are going to have a trillion dollar deficit.’ He said, ‘I haven’t done anything yet,’” Biden said. “I’m serious. They said, ‘No, Mr. President, the budget they passed, the budget they passed in October of last year guarantees no matter what you do you’re going to have a trillion dollar debt this year in the budget.’ A trillion dollar deficit to be precise.”
[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]


Amid the White House's preparations, the Congressional Budget Office predicted the government will accumulate another $855 billion in deficits over the next decade.
*************Besides lacking war costs, the budget office's deficit estimates also omitted the price tags of Bush's goal of revamping Social Security, which could cost $1 trillion to $2 trillion and dominate this year's legislative agenda.

Also left out were the price of extending Bush's tax cuts and easing the impact the alternative minimum tax would have on middle-income Americans, which could exceed $2.3 trillion, the report said.******************Bush won't send the war financing package to Congress until after he unveils his full 2006 budget on Feb. 7, congressional aides said.

White House officials declined to comment on the war package, which will come as the United States confronts continued violence in Iraq leading up to that country's Jan. 30 elections.

Aides said about three-fourths of the $80 billion was expected to be for the Army, which is bearing the brunt of the fighting in Iraq. It also was expected to include money for building a U.S. embassy in Baghdad, estimated to cost $1.5 billion.

One aide said the request will also include funds to help the new Afghan government combat drug trafficking. It might also have money to help two new leaders the U.S. hopes will be allies, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Ukraine President Viktor Yushchenko.

***They argue that withholding the war costs from Bush's budget would open it to criticism that it was an unrealistic document, one aide said
ARE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING YET? FOX AND CNN LIE...this is beyond propaganda tactics...they outright LIE. Bush (as far as I know) is the only President that somehow managed to get all of his war costs and tax cuts NOT INCLUDED in his budget predictions, and furthermore some of the excessive burdens placed carried through until 2010 and some until 2016 ...some just continue ....WAKE UP DON'T BE MANIPULATED. We have slim enough chance as it is to avoid be Romneyed so....keep that in mind. There are bills and laws on the books that would make your head spin if you knew about most of them. Well Peace Out all I have a busy day ahead:)
Photo: Hey CNN stuff your charts and graphs You know where. You are nothing but a washing machine stuck in the spin cycle. Okay early Saturday, good weather sun shining, fog is lifting, and I need to get down to the barn and feed the chickens and the rabbits and the horses so I can get back to working on painting our house.......and I know my posts are not allowed to reach too many ppl by the monitors, BUT!!! I am compelled (yet again) to take the time and make the effort to respond to the Propaganda Machines CNN and Fox News who have both been creaming their jeans falling all over Mitt Romney with all their graphs blaming Barack Obama for the deficit...I personally am sick of listening to spin that has become blatant LIES to the American people. CBPP: "the tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the economic downturn together explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years." In a December 16, 2009, analysis of federal deficits, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities stated, "Some critics charge that the new policies pursued by President Obama and the 111th Congress generated the huge federal budget deficits that the nation now faces. In fact, the tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the economic downturn together explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years." CBPP included the following chart illustrating various factors' relative effects on current and projected deficits: [link to www.cbpp.org] Bush Tax Cuts, War Costs Do Lasting Harm to Budget Outlook Some commentators blame recent legislation — the stimulus bill and the financial rescues — for today’s record deficits. Yet those costs pale next to other policies enacted since 2001 that have swollen the deficit. Those other policies may be less conspicuous now, because many were enacted years ago and they have long since been absorbed into CBO’s and other organizations’ budget projections. Just two policies dating from the Bush Administration — tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — accounted for over $500 billion of the deficit in 2009 and will account for almost $7 trillion in deficits in 2009 through 2019, including the associated debt-service costs. [6] (The prescription drug benefit enacted in 2003 accounts for further substantial increases in deficits and debt, which we are unable to quantify due to data limitations.) These impacts easily dwarf the stimulus and financial rescues. Furthermore, unlike those temporary costs, these inherited policies (especially the tax cuts and the drug benefit) do not fade away as the economy recovers (see Figure 1).A recent Heritage Foundation report claims that tax cuts and other policies initiated during the Bush administration are not a significant factor behind the deficits we face in the coming decade.[10] Heritage places blame for the deficits squarely on rapid growth in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest costs, and dismisses the significance of weak revenues in general and the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts in particular. But Heritage’s analysis is both misguided and seriously misleading. Heritage ignores the fact that rapidly-rising interest costs — one of its “culprits” behind rising outlays — result in significant part from the tax cuts and other fiscal policies of the Bush era . The tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan accounted for over $2.6 trillion of our national debt by the end of 2008 and, if continued, will add another $7 trillion in debt by 2019. In that year alone, about $450 billion of our interest bill will stem from those two policies. It is disingenuous to tar interest as a “fast-growing” spending program while ignoring which policies — including tax cuts — account for that fact. Heritage ignores the fact that the share of deficits accounted for by the Bush-era tax cuts will grow in future years as the impact of the economic downturn on deficits diminishes . Because the economic downturn and efforts to combat it have such a large effect on the deficit in 2010, the share of the deficit accounted for by the tax cuts seems relatively modest; we estimate that the tax cuts account for about one quarter of the 2010 deficit. But as the effects of the downturn recede, the tax cuts will account for a much larger share. In 2019, the tax cuts, if continued, will account for nearly three-fifths of the deficit. And, despite the growing impact of rising health care costs and the continued aging of the population after 2019, the tax cuts will continue to have a major impact on the deficit. Including the interest costs, the Bush-era tax cuts account for over $700 billion — or nearly 55 percent — of the deficit projected for 2019 under current policies. [link to abcnews.go.com] Biden recounted that within the first week of being in office, Larry Summers, a top economic adviser to the president, warned newly inaugurated President Obama of the deficit the country faced. “We were sitting in the oval office, and Larry Summers, the chief economic adviser, and the economic team came in and said ‘Mr. President, looking at this year’s budget you are going to have a trillion dollar deficit.’ He said, ‘I haven’t done anything yet,’” Biden said. “I’m serious. They said, ‘No, Mr. President, the budget they passed, the budget they passed in October of last year guarantees no matter what you do you’re going to have a trillion dollar debt this year in the budget.’ A trillion dollar deficit to be precise.” [link to usatoday30.usatoday.com] Amid the White House's preparations, the Congressional Budget Office predicted the government will accumulate another $855 billion in deficits over the next decade. *************Besides lacking war costs, the budget office's deficit estimates also omitted the price tags of Bush's goal of revamping Social Security, which could cost $1 trillion to $2 trillion and dominate this year's legislative agenda. Also left out were the price of extending Bush's tax cuts and easing the impact the alternative minimum tax would have on middle-income Americans, which could exceed $2.3 trillion, the report said.******************Bush won't send the war financing package to Congress until after he unveils his full 2006 budget on Feb. 7, congressional aides said. White House officials declined to comment on the war package, which will come as the United States confronts continued violence in Iraq leading up to that country's Jan. 30 elections. Aides said about three-fourths of the $80 billion was expected to be for the Army, which is bearing the brunt of the fighting in Iraq. It also was expected to include money for building a U.S. embassy in Baghdad, estimated to cost $1.5 billion. One aide said the request will also include funds to help the new Afghan government combat drug trafficking. It might also have money to help two new leaders the U.S. hopes will be allies, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Ukraine President Viktor Yushchenko. ***They argue that withholding the war costs from Bush's budget would open it to criticism that it was an unrealistic document, one aide said ARE YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING YET? FOX AND CNN LIE...this is beyond propaganda tactics...they outright LIE. Bush (as far as I know) is the only President that somehow managed to get all of his war costs and tax cuts NOT INCLUDED in his budget predictions, and furthermore some of the excessive burdens placed carried through until 2010 and some until 2016 ...some just continue ....WAKE UP DON'T BE MANIPULATED. We have slim enough chance as it is to avoid be Romneyed so....keep that in mind. There are bills and laws on the books that would make your head spin if you knew about most of them. Well Peace Out all I have a busy day ahead:)
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It is. Horribly.

This is huge, though. If people read this and go through the events over the last month or so, they will have no choice but to see.

This is different, too. This time, they lied about covering up the premeditated choice to allow American citizens to die at the hands of those who the president funded-after he had the information!

They let them die and covered up the front-end knowledge and the investigation so they wouldn't look bad and could push their true agenda forward. You can read their thoughts:

Why should overthrowing governments, arming MBH and Iran so they can foster Islamic states surrounding Israel be an issue to voters in this country? Let's just keep them out of the loop.

Busted.
 Quoting: Herman The Kid


Obama claimed the right to kill American citizens without trial, anywhere in the world, by drone strike if at all possible.
He even threatened to kill the Jonas brothers by drone, because his daughters thought they were hot. Not into interracial dating Barak... but yo' ma?
What difference if it was an ambassador who was part of the whole scheme himself?
I hope that you were equally outraged when Pat Tillman was friendly fired.
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Thanks for the pin.

hf

People need to read this. This has nothing to do with voting and everything to do with murder of our own citizens to profit from arming those who only want us dead.
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What does an unmanned unarmed drone have to do with murder
Vide Et Fortitudine
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The lack of true leadership is disgusting !!
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... the intelligence community must feel the same way and were not going to take the blame for the administration.

I doubt the liberal press is going to do much with it though.
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The lack of true leadership is disgusting !!
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took the tex right out of my fingers

very disgusting
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It's pretty much preaching to the choir at this point.

Either you are pro Obama or you are not.

I don't think anything will change the mind of an Obama bot at this stage. They are blindly fanatical.

Obama could nuke a day care center at his point and his minions would support it and deem it good while saying the GOP calling it evil are themselves evil for not supporting it.
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And consume the charred remains on national TV and they would still moan out his name....
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LoL feast on the charred remains....


He does eat dog...

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It's very possible that Obama is, like *both* of the Clintons, in fact a creation of the CIA, to a large extent.

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Is there "deep politics" involved here? Are there there opposing pro- and anti-Obama factions within the CIA which are now battling it out? Could any of this be related to former top spook James Angleton's indefatigable hunt for "moles" in the CIA?
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Eric Holder could have been a college-recruit CIA as well.
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As long as they're not turning on my brain scrambler any more, we're good.

Someone needs to fix that switchboard. I keep getting all the Al Gore cluster headaches redirected to me.



Blasted Anemoi!
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That would suck,good post AGC!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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i am so sick of this kind of news. please, people, vote this evil shithead out of office before our country sinks like the titanic
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NO NO NO

Don't vote anyone 'OUT' Vote someone 'IN'. Voting out is what keeps the circle jerk of assholes moving in and out of the White House. Obama and Romney are one in the same. You will be wanting to vote Romney 'OUT' in 4 years.

Vote in Gary Johnson. He is a true patriot and lover of freedom.
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GARY JOHNSON has my VOTE here in Iowa!
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The lack of true leadership is disgusting !!
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It's all Zionist neocon control....Obama just a puppet....who has the control files?....neither Holder nor Mueller protected this country from Zionism....Mueller's controller is Chertoff his pal.
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The lack of true leadership is disgusting !!
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... the intelligence community must feel the same way and were not going to take the blame for the administration.

I doubt the liberal press is going to do much with it though.
 Quoting: TraderRob

What liberal press? are brainwashed by Fox CIA news?
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If the spooks want to, they could whack the entire
Arkansas mafia overnight.
That thought just sent a tingle up MY leg.

If Clinton starts spending all his time in Russia
you know something's up.

I'm sure they have ALL the goods on BO's alternative
lifestyle. Video, the works!
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Actually, I think it can be good. They are letting the American people know what's going on and how Obama is trying to cover up what he has done and what a total failure his policies really are.

Couple this with the Navy Seal who wrote the book about bin Laden that contradicts Obama's version and we are seeing the formation of quite a pattern here.

Worst foreign police EVER!
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Obama is a puppet who takes orders....so who controls Obama?

The neocons are totally responsible for what their puppet does.
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It is. Horribly.

This is huge, though. If people read this and go through the events over the last month or so, they will have no choice but to see.

This is different, too. This time, they lied about covering up the premeditated choice to allow American citizens to die at the hands of those who the president funded-after he had the information!

They let them die and covered up the front-end knowledge and the investigation so they wouldn't look bad and could push their true agenda forward. You can read their thoughts:

Why should overthrowing governments, arming MBH and Iran so they can foster Islamic states surrounding Israel be an issue to voters in this country? Let's just keep them out of the loop.

Busted.
 Quoting: Herman The Kid


Obama claimed the right to kill American citizens without trial, anywhere in the world, by drone strike if at all possible.
He even threatened to kill the Jonas brothers by drone, because his daughters thought they were hot. Not into interracial dating Barak... but yo' ma?
What difference if it was an ambassador who was part of the whole scheme himself?
I hope that you were equally outraged when Pat Tillman was friendly fired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21903530


As a college football fan *Roll Tide* and owner of no less than 3 NFL fantasy teams per year, I assure you I love football and became intimately aware of Mr. Tillman's situation when he signed up and when he "accidentally was shot."

I knew from the get-go that was crap. Still nothing made me angrier than Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Google his name. That one should have O BA MA behind bars.
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"al Qaeda is running rampant throughout the region" Hell I could've told people that , even my dumb ass knows this!
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The lack of true leadership is disgusting !!
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you've gotta be realistic, the guy maybe the smartest black and smartest kenyan, with an IQ of, say, 80. he should be able to rule Kenya with his family no prob. But inviting him into the white house and give him the most powerful nation to play with is the biggest mistake his voters made and the whole country, including our children will be paying for it in the foreseeable future

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Very few people are privy to the main attraction. Mostly people are just watching and hearing well choreographed sideshows.
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It's pretty much preaching to the choir at this point.

Either you are pro Obama or you are not.

I don't think anything will change the mind of an Obama bot at this stage. They are blindly fanatical.

Obama could nuke a day care center at his point and his minions would support it and deem it good while saying the GOP calling it evil are themselves evil for not supporting it.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


Exactly! I watch Sean Hannity and he has such an obvious hardon for Barry. You're not going to change anyone's mind.
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Hhhhmmm... Would this be the SAME Sean Hannity who keeps "breaking" all these new-found "damning" video's of Obama??? Really?
ThinkOutsideTheBox
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The Spooks are leaking what everyone already knew; the White House had all information made available to them about Libya-including that their terrorists were in cahoots with EGYPT and Iran. But, easier to let the ambassador die than to look bad before an election.

Disgusting.

“The Obama Administration is afraid to admit al Qaeda is running rampant throughout the region because it would expose the truth instead of what President Obama so pompously spouted during the Democratic Convention” said the official."

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 Quoting: Herman The Kid



Couple this with what we know about this administration and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Guys, this is scary as shit!

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