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leyba  User ID: 4652475 United States10/07/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so this is what makes me wanna fuckin scream! the US Gov. thinks that if they were to kill these guys, then Nibiru would NEVER ARRIVE! seriously, that is how this fuckers think! "shhhhhhh! if we don't mention Nibiru to the people, then it will just go away!" "...because Marines kill every-thing-we-see!" |
| Factoids. . User ID: 875736 United States10/08/2012 01:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so this is what makes me wanna fuckin scream! Quoting: leyba the US Gov. thinks that if they were to kill these guys, then Nibiru would NEVER ARRIVE! seriously, that is how this fuckers think! "shhhhhhh! if we don't mention Nibiru to the people, then it will just go away!" What they think is that if people knew what is coming, they would be completely distracted from their slavery, and stop earning the masters their money. What they don't know, is that they can't take it with them, and their kids and grandkids won't live through it, so they can't leave it for others to carry on with their sick cause either. The US.GOV does not think. They follow orders. That's it. They are handed their orders by the organization originally from eastern european Kazars, who call themselves Jews but are not Jews. The shadow government is organized in the US to carry out their desires. So the heirarchy or chain of command is. . . Synogogue of Satan-Ruling 12 families with 13th chair, Rothschilds are on this level. Club of 300 (Rockefellers etc.) Shadow government. Several pieces of this puzzle including a space command. Chinese wall = Trilateral Commission,Council of Foreign Relations, Military Command, CIA US Government known to the public. Executive, Judiciary, and Congress. We The People. Regular military. 'They' know what is coming. A meteor that will cause the death of 1/3 of all life. Three days of darkness. Return of the City of Enoch. Return of the twelve tribes. Return of Christ. 'They' are hoping to defeat Christ. Many of 'us' know what is coming because we do not deny the word of God, called a Bible, where the information is available, in translations no later than the King James Version. Further, you have only to search the skies to see the same information, sorting reflection from Russian satellites equipped with mirror surfaces, and holograms. |
| Factoids User ID: 875736 United States10/08/2012 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so this is what makes me wanna fuckin scream! Quoting: leyba the US Gov. thinks that if they were to kill these guys, then Nibiru would NEVER ARRIVE! seriously, that is how this fuckers think! "shhhhhhh! if we don't mention Nibiru to the people, then it will just go away!" What they think is that if people knew what is coming, they would be completely distracted from their slavery, and stop earning the masters their money. What they don't know, is that they can't take it with them, and their kids and grandkids won't live through it, so they can't leave it for others to carry on with their sick cause either. The US.GOV does not think. They follow orders. That's it. They are handed their orders by the organization originally from eastern european Kazars, who call themselves Jews but are not Jews. The shadow government is organized in the US to carry out their desires. So the heirarchy or chain of command is. . . Synogogue of Satan-Ruling 12 families with 13th chair, Rothschilds are on this level. Club of 300 (Rockefellers etc.) Shadow government. Several pieces of this puzzle including a space command. Chinese wall = Trilateral Commission,Council of Foreign Relations, Military Command, CIA US Government known to the public. Executive, Judiciary, and Congress. We The People. Regular military. 'They' know what is coming. A meteor that will cause the death of 1/3 of all life. Three days of darkness. Return of the City of Enoch. Return of the twelve tribes. Return of Christ. 'They' are hoping to defeat Christ. Many of 'us' know what is coming because we do not deny the word of God, called a Bible, where the information is available, in translations no later than the King James Version. Further, you have only to search the skies to see the same information, sorting reflection from Russian satellites equipped with mirror surfaces, and holograms. Clint Eastwood may have been speaking symbolically to the 13th chair of the Synogogue of Satan, when he did the bit at the RNC to the empty chair, addressing it as Obama. No one seemed to notice. |
| Serenity777 User ID: 1129812 United States10/08/2012 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is totally ridiculous. 90% of the astronomers pointed out in the video were in their 60's, 70's & 80's and died from normal causes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25085566 Does this silly video maker think astronomers are immortal and never have accidents?  watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion... |
| balthuuu User ID: 14434601  Finland10/08/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is totally ridiculous. 90% of the astronomers pointed out in the video were in their 60's, 70's & 80's and died from normal causes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25085566 Does this silly video maker think astronomers are immortal and never have accidents?  Love is not the game, life is. - When we wake up in this "reality" every morning, we are actually falling asleep, because only in our dreams we are truly awake. - We are not our body, nor our mind. We are not the voice in our body, nor our head. We are the the here and now, experiencing without any input from either of the mentioned above. - It's not about others forgiving you, but whether you can forgive yourself. - It doesn't take much energy to make the wrong decision. But to make the right one, you have to put every fiber of your being to it. - I know i have a lot to work on. But knowing that there's no hairy ass man in the clouds to judge me when I have little bit of fun on the expense of someone elses ignorance, makes life a whole lot easier. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3978737 United States10/08/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Japanese astronomer with an international project that seeks to explore the origins of stars was killed during a robbery outside his apartment building, police said. [link to www.nation.com.pk] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3978737 United States10/08/2012 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MARC A. AARONSON, ASTRONOMER, KILLED BY REVOLVING DOME AP Published: May 02, 1987 An award-winning astronomer known for his research on the age and size of the universe was crushed to death between a door and a 150-ton revolving telescope dome, the authorities said today. The astronomer, Marc Arnold Aaronson, 37 years old, was crushed Thursday night in an accident at the Kitt Peak Observatory, said Lieut. Edward Beumler, a spokesman for the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Mr. Aaronson was leaving the 18-story building that houses the telescope to check the weather when he was killed, Lieutenant Beumler said. When the door leading outside is opened, the telescope's dome automatically stops turning, but the dome coasts 5 to 10 feet before coming to a full stop, the authorities said. Awarding of Prize in 1984 Peter A. Strittmatter, head of the University of Arizona's astronomy department, said Mr. Aaronson was an associate professor in the department. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3978737 United States10/08/2012 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The University of Hawaii at Hilo is mourning the loss of one of its own. Astronomy Professor Dr. Richard Crowe was fatally injured Sunday afternoon in an off-road accident in Arizona. Dr. Crowe came to UH Hilo 25 years ago and helped launch the University’s undergraduate astronomy program. Crowe was also active in the community. He was a longtime member of the Rotary Club of Hilo Bay, where he served a term as President. Crowe is survived by his wife and two children. He was 60 years old. [link to www.kpua.net] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3978737 United States10/08/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The University of Hawaii at Hilo is mourning the loss of one of its own. Astronomy Professor Dr. Richard Crowe was fatally injured Sunday afternoon in an off-road accident in Arizona. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737 Dr. Crowe came to UH Hilo 25 years ago and helped launch the University’s undergraduate astronomy program. Crowe was also active in the community. He was a longtime member of the Rotary Club of Hilo Bay, where he served a term as President. Crowe is survived by his wife and two children. He was 60 years old. [link to www.kpua.net] "a bizarre Jeep accident" |
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| smartcooky User ID: 19042427  New Zealand10/08/2012 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely, it is very dangerous indeed I know of two amateur astronomers who were killed in suspicious circumstances while observing a total eclipse of the sun. This cannot be a coincidence; two astronomers, both studying the same astronomical phenomenon, both killed within a few minutes of each other... but wait, there's more.... There are several methods of observing total solar eclipses; - projecting the image onto a card using a telescope - placing a mylar objective filter over a telescope - looking through a piece of exposed, processed film - Arc welding glasses - lining a large cardboard box with white paper and and poking a hole in one side them placing the whole thing over your head - effectively makes a pinhole camera WELL UNBELIEVABLY, THE TWO ASTRONOMERS WERE USING THE SAME METHOD, one that is recommended by, you guessed it, NASA! (illustration) [link to dl.dropbox.com (secure)] Apparently, while trying to get a better view, one walked onto a busy highway and was hit by a truck; the other one stepped off the top of a 12 story building!! I think this is all part of a world wide conspiracy by the NASA, to get rid of as many of those pesky amateur astronomers as they can. Can't have people operating completely outside of their control can they? Those who agree with me may not always be right, nonetheless, I admire their astuteness - Cullen Hightower |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25172585  Thailand10/08/2012 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "where are all the astronomers..... they would surely see something" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2367051 This has happened time and time again, all of them who look for something in IR (infrared) get bumped off due to something obscure. Ever wondered why so many people and nations are on the south pole? [link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com] - Part 1 [link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com] - Part 2 [link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com] - Part 3 Let's go check it out. I got my long johns.  |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 19507663  Netherlands10/08/2012 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is all part of a world wide conspiracy by the NASA, to get rid of as many of those pesky amateur astronomers as they can. Can't have people operating completely outside of their control can they? Quoting: smartcooky Keep in mind that a lot of people here have dysfunctional sarcasm detectors.  Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| smartcooky User ID: 19042427 New Zealand10/08/2012 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is all part of a world wide conspiracy by the NASA, to get rid of as many of those pesky amateur astronomers as they can. Can't have people operating completely outside of their control can they? Quoting: smartcooky Keep in mind that a lot of people here have dysfunctional sarcasm detectors. Then I recommend a 12 Step Course of "Fawlty Towers" for them. Last Edited by smartcooky on 10/08/2012 05:27 AM Those who agree with me may not always be right, nonetheless, I admire their astuteness - Cullen Hightower |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1416958  Hungary10/08/2012 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They found out that they can't live forever... That traveling can be dangerous... and that shit happens... When you take out the old atronomers who died of natural causes (some of them died 15 years ago), add in those that died as part of the averages (people die).... there is not enough to call conspiracy. And don't let they poison you??? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5248308 United States10/08/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a quick look of Wikipedia and US .gov stats says that Quoting: Wid 22718549 the average mortality rate was 794 deaths per 100 000 people year 2009 in US. US has about 7000 astronomers who are member of American Astronomical Society. International Astronomical Union has about 10 000 members. (Meaning, most have a university degree of some level in space related stuff) If we use the death statistics from the recent years, it means (counting from 10 000 population of "astronomers") 79.4 astronomers die each year (for any cause). Let's make it 80 (most are men, so precise statistics will go a bit off even in here, as mortality rate of men is higher than women) Percentage of each death cause shows following (for all of population): 6.2 % Unintentional injuries 1.8 % falling, drowning, poisoning (unintentional?) 0.5 % fire accidents 2 % traffic accidents In total, about 10.5% of the population dies in this kind of accidents. From 10 000 astronomers, 80 dies yearly, so about 8 of them "should" statistically die from common "accidents" mentioned earlier. If you take heart diseases and cancers into account, about 45% of the all death cases are related to them. (Mostly older people, of course). This means that of 80 astronomers about 36 dies yearly from "natural" reasons related just to heart and different types of cancer. Of course we can't rule out the possibility for many of those "natural" deaths actually being sophisticated murders with poisons and/or bio weapons, but at least we can compare the number of accidental deaths to population average. If somebody has a reasonable list of all the deaths with their dates and age information showing, it would help. If the number of accidents that happen to astronomers yearly is way over 8/year, it could be worth more detailed search. Some places to check for data: [link to www.cdc.gov] [link to en.wikipedia.org] I hope the quick calculations are about right, please correct me if wrong. No point making more detailed statistics unless we know the number of actual deaths and other details. brilliant piece of analysis. If there are 10,000 astronomers, the probability that exact 8 of them would die, given the probability of any one of them dying from an accident is 10.5% is calculatable by a binomial probability distribution formula. Knowing this an calculating this probability yeilds a probability of 0.00%. The probability of 80 or fewer dying in an accident is 0.00% The expected number that would die is 1050 astronomers of the 10,000 would die an accidental death -at some time during their lifetime. So, then, we have 1050 as the expected number of astronomers to die at some time during their lifetime. We can use the poisson probability to determine the number of astronomers do die PER YEAR. If the average astronomer lives to be 75 years old, we would expect 14 astronomers on average to perish per year throughout the 75 years by chance alone. The standard deviation would be approximately 7, and so, in a given year if 28 or more died, it would be absolute proof of murdering of astronomers. |
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| Wid User ID: 22718549 Finland10/08/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a quick look of Wikipedia and US .gov stats says that Quoting: Wid 22718549 the average mortality rate was 794 deaths per 100 000 people year 2009 in US. US has about 7000 astronomers who are member of American Astronomical Society. International Astronomical Union has about 10 000 members. (Meaning, most have a university degree of some level in space related stuff) If we use the death statistics from the recent years, it means (counting from 10 000 population of "astronomers") 79.4 astronomers die each year (for any cause). Let's make it 80 (most are men, so precise statistics will go a bit off even in here, as mortality rate of men is higher than women) Percentage of each death cause shows following (for all of population): 6.2 % Unintentional injuries 1.8 % falling, drowning, poisoning (unintentional?) 0.5 % fire accidents 2 % traffic accidents In total, about 10.5% of the population dies in this kind of accidents. From 10 000 astronomers, 80 dies yearly, so about 8 of them "should" statistically die from common "accidents" mentioned earlier. If you take heart diseases and cancers into account, about 45% of the all death cases are related to them. (Mostly older people, of course). This means that of 80 astronomers about 36 dies yearly from "natural" reasons related just to heart and different types of cancer. Of course we can't rule out the possibility for many of those "natural" deaths actually being sophisticated murders with poisons and/or bio weapons, but at least we can compare the number of accidental deaths to population average. If somebody has a reasonable list of all the deaths with their dates and age information showing, it would help. If the number of accidents that happen to astronomers yearly is way over 8/year, it could be worth more detailed search. Some places to check for data: [link to www.cdc.gov] [link to en.wikipedia.org] I hope the quick calculations are about right, please correct me if wrong. No point making more detailed statistics unless we know the number of actual deaths and other details. brilliant piece of analysis. If there are 10,000 astronomers, the probability that exact 8 of them would die, given the probability of any one of them dying from an accident is 10.5% is calculatable by a binomial probability distribution formula. Knowing this an calculating this probability yeilds a probability of 0.00%. The probability of 80 or fewer dying in an accident is 0.00% The expected number that would die is 1050 astronomers of the 10,000 would die an accidental death -at some time during their lifetime. So, then, we have 1050 as the expected number of astronomers to die at some time during their lifetime. We can use the poisson probability to determine the number of astronomers do die PER YEAR. If the average astronomer lives to be 75 years old, we would expect 14 astronomers on average to perish per year throughout the 75 years by chance alone. The standard deviation would be approximately 7, and so, in a given year if 28 or more died, it would be absolute proof of murdering of astronomers. Therefore, we would need a list of all the deaths for each year, and preferably the assumed cause and age (and sex) of the "victims". The most common causes of deaths for major age groups are easy to find too, so we could rule out some of the possibilities. I personally think "the best proof" would be if the total number of deaths for astronomers for some or each year would be statistically very high, compared to average population. In western countries, highly educated people tend to live longer and healthier (but there are exceptions like dentists etc.) so to make a very detailed calculations is a bit tricky, but still doable and reasonably reliable with enough data to work with. If we would like to take into account all "astronomy related" deaths, it will get almost impossible as it's pretty much impossible to make reliable estimations of the sampling sizes for each professions. To take into account only people who work in the actual field of astronomy, it's still reasonable. |
| Wid User ID: 22718549 Finland10/08/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is all part of a world wide conspiracy by the NASA, to get rid of as many of those pesky amateur astronomers as they can. Can't have people operating completely outside of their control can they? Quoting: smartcooky Keep in mind that a lot of people here have dysfunctional sarcasm detectors. Then I recommend a 12 Step Course of "Fawlty Towers" for them. 50 hours of anything with John Cleese, Stephen Fry or Monty team should be requested from people using the internet for anything else than porn and Facebook. And maybe 2 seasons of Green Wing, to give them a "fresh" perspective. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25255024 United States10/09/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it does seem as if many of our top scientists from around the world are ~very~ accident prone, unlucky, and disease-ridden when compared to non-scientists of their same age Quoting: ladyannie2009 :hmmm: Do a goggle on dead British scientists. Many of them worked for Reagan on our Star Wars program. Sure were some strange things, like people committing suicide by sticking a lamp cord in their mouth. I bet most people don't think THAT one up if they are "depressed".... |
