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I apologize if it has already been brought up but I found it pretty disturbing and am interested on others thoughts/opinions.

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10/06/2012 08:14 PM
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paid administrative leave. = paid vacation, a little R&R for murdering a student, nice world we live in huh.
no weapon, no shoot, your a cold blooded murderer and we know the "Brotherhood" will back you ass. this will be swept under the rug.
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10/06/2012 08:22 PM
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Yeah it makes me sad to see how liberal lethal force is used lately. I mean the kid was probably stoned or having a psychotic break. Why do police even carry tazers and spray if not for a naked unarmed person?
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10/06/2012 08:25 PM
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Wasn't just last year that tasers were being overused and having a lot of bad publicity?

Seems they forgot those at home by now.
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he was naked and unarmed? what did the cop think he was gonna do?


far too much of this shit happening. cops with guns. thank fuck theyre not armed here
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He got jealous of his dick size.
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I apologize if it has already been brought up but I found it pretty disturbing and am interested on others thoughts/opinions.

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Why all the nakedness and shootings?
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Good. One less.
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bath salts!!
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They will blame that or cannabis, no matter what antidepressant the student just started on.
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I apologize if it has already been brought up but I found it pretty disturbing and am interested on others thoughts/opinions.

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bsflag


bath salts!!
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Could be, but its also on [link to abcnews.go.com] and isn't written like the aforementioned zombie article. I'll try and look for some more citations.
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Obviously when a person is running around in public nude he's in his right mind and not being violent or anything...derp





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Why all the nakedness and shootings?
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Because clothed stabbings are so 20th century.
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Why all the nakedness and shootings?
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Because clothed stabbings are so 20th century.
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I can't even count the number of times I went running around outside naked...



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10/06/2012 08:50 PM
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The naked man, mostly humerus, sometimes deadly.

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10/06/2012 08:54 PM
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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP...
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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


Thanks for sharing your story.

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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Hey look Briefs either lying or being an idiot again.

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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP...
 Quoting: BRIEF


So you jump right to murder as the optimum option.
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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP...
 Quoting: BRIEF


So you jump right to murder as the optimum option.
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Killing a crazy is not murder...
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They seem to shoot everything except for themselves these days.

Maybe Cop to Cop shooting will become their latest addition to the menu in coming weeks.
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They seem to shoot everything except for themselves these days.

Maybe Cop to Cop shooting will become their latest addition to the menu in coming weeks.
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If a cop strips naked and acts the fool and being violent I'd expect the same reaction...
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I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience...

I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance.

Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one.

In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud!
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107


I appreciate your insight and agree. Like you said, there are less-than-lethal means at an officers disposal. Here's a different account of the incident from a post on CBS. From how this read, the officer never attempted to use less-than-lethal force. If the officer was aware of how naked erratic people act (as you suggest), shouldn't they be aware that diplomacy will likely fail? It just sucks to see people die like this. I mean a leg-shot or something.

"At 1:23 a.m. on Saturday, Oct. 6, University of South Alabama Police
responded to a loud banging noise on the west side window of the police
station. When an officer exited the station to investigate, he was
confronted by a muscular, nude man who was acting erratically. The man
repeatedly rushed and verbally challenged the officer in a fighting
stance.

The officer with weapon drawn ordered the individual to halt. The
officer retreated numerous times in an attempt to calm the situation.
The individual continued to press toward the officer in a threatening
manner. The assailant kneeled for a moment, and then he rose again,
rushing and chasing the officer, who continued to retreat away from the
building. When the individual continued to rush toward the officer in a
threatening manner and ignored the officer's repeated commands to
stop, the officer fired one shot with his police sidearm, which struck
the chest of the assailant. The individual fell to the ground, but he
got up once more and continued to challenge the officer further before
collapsing and expiring.

The deceased has been identified as Gilbert Thomas Collar, an
18-year-old freshman from Wetumpka, Ala.

Immediately after the incident, the USA Police Department contacted the
District Attorney's Office to request an external investigation.
Mobile County Sheriff's Department will assist. The officer has been
placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of internal and
external reviews.

The University extends its condolences to Mr. Collar's family."
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They seem to shoot everything except for themselves these days.

Maybe Cop to Cop shooting will become their latest addition to the menu in coming weeks.
 Quoting: 0pEnLy~Gr@y


If a cop strips naked and acts the fool and being violent I'd expect the same reaction...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Now wouldn't that be something special!
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First off, Brief, you need to shut the fuck up because your a complete ignoramus. Secondly, the copy easily could have just shot at his legs instead of instinctually firing a lethal shot at the person's chest.
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Obviously when a person is running around in public nude he's in his right mind and not being violent or anything...derp





 Quoting: BRIEF


Sigh. The police need more training in hand to hand combat. They also need to learn to shoot to disable.....whenever appropriate. An appropriate move for a naked kid would definitely be disable.
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First off, Brief, you need to shut the fuck up because your a complete ignoramus. Secondly, the copy easily could have just shot at his legs instead of instinctually firing a lethal shot at the person's chest.
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The cop shot a dead, naked college student? Why did he shoot a naked corpse?
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First off, Brief, you need to shut the fuck up because your a complete ignoramus. Secondly, the copy easily could have just shot at his legs instead of instinctually firing a lethal shot at the person's chest.
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Maybe he could have fired a warning shot like in the movies!

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these trigger-happy pigs are a fucking menace, and defending their actions just makes you look complete cunt

im sure you just try it on for kicks though

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