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BREAKING: HUGE LEVELS of METHANE at and around LA Sinkhole!!!

 
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"The Gates of Hell: Forever-Burning Crater of Poison"

BURNING 24/7 since 1971


Turkmenistan is known for its offbeat tourist attractions, but one of the most unusual is the hole in the ground known as The Gates of Hell. The hole, an impressive 230 feet across, is filled with leaping flames that have been lighting up the area for 40 years.

. In 1971, a group of geologists drilling in the Darvaza area accidentally punched through the rock to a deposit of natural gas. The ground crumbled and fell away beneath the drilling equipment.

Since methane is considered dangerous when released into the atmosphere, the geologists decided to light the hole on fire and burn the methane off. They clearly expected it to be a simple, short-lived fire that would burn itself out within days. It was anything but simple.

Now, four decades later, the fire burns on. Looking into the pit, it is easy to understand how it got its name. It almost feels like stepping into this fiery abyss will take you directly to the devil’s lair. The massive deposits of methane below the entire field simply continue burning while curious travelers often make their way to the dangerous location with the sole purpose of peering into the bizarre burning hole.

In 2010 the Turkmenistan government decided that something should be done about the crater. President Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov ordered the hole covered up and the other gas deposits in the area explored for their mining viability. As of press time more than a year later, the crater continues to burn 24 hours a day, every day of the year.



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on wiki:

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Derweze (Turkmen language: The Gate, also known as Darvaza) is a village in Turkmenistan of about 350 inhabitants, located in the middle of the Karakum Desert, about 260 km north from Ashgabat.
Darvaza inhabitants are mostly Turkmen of the Teke tribe,


The Derweze area is rich in natural gas. While drilling in 1971, Soviet geologists tapped into a cavern filled with natural gas.[1] The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of 70 metres (230 ft) at 40°15′10″N 58°26′22″E. To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided the best solution was burn it off.[2] Geologists had hoped the fire would use all the fuel in a matter of days, but the gas is still burning today. Locals have dubbed the cavern "The Door to Hell".[3]
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This is getting scary
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This is the frickin worse news I've seen. OMG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 844118


wasn't there a history channel show that theorized a Methane mass extinction event ???????


hiding
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Yep.


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check this out

watch this

it will blow your mind


wtf
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Just going to embed it for everyone to see here.


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Really worth watching!

Many thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22538468


Thanks for posting this vid! Maybe now is the time to watch disaster stock aquisitions before the fact as in who bought what.
What has not been considered seriously is that the BP well likely (imo) began having trouble as early as the previous February, hence the buying disaster equip & selling stocks a month before it blew. I really think this was problem=solution selloff rather than premeditated. Then what followed all those chemicals (investments) and no regulations..stupid stupid psycho-narcissist response (aka "practical"). On-the-spot disaster capitalism.
I just don't think they're that in control or smart enough to engineer to that extent.
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Shit just got real hiding
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many thanks OP for starting this thread! the assumption thread has been wonderful but we needed another less long one to get new people on board!hf
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The smoking gun! This is what they are really worried about! Methane!

This is it, I'm pretty sure folks - the BP oil spill which fractured the sea floor, Jack Reeds theory and now "Officials advised the Assumption Parish President on Thursday that Bayou Corne sinkhole area has high levels of methane in nearby water wells, posing risks to health, fire and explosion and that residents need to heed the mandatory evacuation order. That day, parish officials postponed Saturday's resident briefing with no explanation."

"Methane gas leaks are spreading throughout the south Louisiana area. Within four months, as of this week, methane bubbling sites have increased to twenty-eight, including in Pierre Part, outside the mandatory evacuation area but within hearing distance and jolts of seismic activities where foul chemical odors are nauseating and burning, as some residents there have reported.

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So whats the worse possible outcome?
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Ok, let's think this through clearly. If this LA sinkhole is truly the threat that we fear, we should see a mass influx of military and government equipment to that area for the aftermath of the disaster. Can anyone confirm an influx of military and/or government equipment/personnel near LA?
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Do you mean like Governments did at the 'disaster' at Fukushima?
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Throw a match on it. Get it over with. This way we will know when the explosion will be as opposed to waiting around and be caught by surprise.
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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A number of years ago a guy considered himself to be prophetic. I think his name was Diesel. He stated that due to gas seeping into 'cracks' all over this continent that there would result in devastating fires throughout the land. This is a simplification of that but he may have foretold things pretty accurately.

It would be great if someone could find his prophesies and post them.
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


Not ignorant, actually more informed than most people here. Informed enough to know that this is NATURAL GAS leaking from a salt mine cavern, and NOT methane gas. Again, I ask for a link to ANY STUDY indicating that it is METHANE GAS. If you can't provide one, then I guess this entire post is bullshit.
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


Not ignorant, actually more informed than most people here. Informed enough to know that this is NATURAL GAS leaking from a salt mine cavern, and NOT methane gas. Again, I ask for a link to ANY STUDY indicating that it is METHANE GAS. If you can't provide one, then I guess this entire post is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


[link to www.edsuite.com]

"Ratard stated in the Oct. 3 letter that high levels of methane have been detected in water wells in the sinkhole area"
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Well, will this mean if this blows this state off the face of the map. We would have 56 states?

Now this is a tricky one!

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lol,he's including the territory's of the united states as states also...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


Not ignorant, actually more informed than most people here. Informed enough to know that this is NATURAL GAS leaking from a salt mine cavern, and NOT methane gas. Again, I ask for a link to ANY STUDY indicating that it is METHANE GAS. If you can't provide one, then I guess this entire post is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612



This entire post IS bullshit, and as usual, way exaggerated, fucking hyped up stinkshit. People like the OP are fucking losers, making a mountain out of a molehill. The authorities are doing what they are supposed to- testing carefully an uncertain situation, and first and foremost protecting the residents.

Go read the actual situation report update for yourself:
[link to www.edsuite.com]

It mentions Methane once, and clearly states there is no current risk of some "doomsday explosion".

Fucking retard GLPers at work once again.
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[link to webecoist.momtastic.com]

"The Gates of Hell: Forever-Burning Crater of Poison"

BURNING 24/7 since 1971


Turkmenistan is known for its offbeat tourist attractions, but one of the most unusual is the hole in the ground known as The Gates of Hell. The hole, an impressive 230 feet across, is filled with leaping flames that have been lighting up the area for 40 years.

. In 1971, a group of geologists drilling in the Darvaza area accidentally punched through the rock to a deposit of natural gas. The ground crumbled and fell away beneath the drilling equipment.

Since methane is considered dangerous when released into the atmosphere, the geologists decided to light the hole on fire and burn the methane off. They clearly expected it to be a simple, short-lived fire that would burn itself out within days. It was anything but simple.

Now, four decades later, the fire burns on. Looking into the pit, it is easy to understand how it got its name. It almost feels like stepping into this fiery abyss will take you directly to the devil’s lair. The massive deposits of methane below the entire field simply continue burning while curious travelers often make their way to the dangerous location with the sole purpose of peering into the bizarre burning hole.

In 2010 the Turkmenistan government decided that something should be done about the crater. President Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov ordered the hole covered up and the other gas deposits in the area explored for their mining viability. As of press time more than a year later, the crater continues to burn 24 hours a day, every day of the year.



[link to youtu.be]

on wiki:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Derweze (Turkmen language: The Gate, also known as Darvaza) is a village in Turkmenistan of about 350 inhabitants, located in the middle of the Karakum Desert, about 260 km north from Ashgabat.
Darvaza inhabitants are mostly Turkmen of the Teke tribe,


The Derweze area is rich in natural gas. While drilling in 1971, Soviet geologists tapped into a cavern filled with natural gas.[1] The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of 70 metres (230 ft) at 40°15′10″N 58°26′22″E. To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided the best solution was burn it off.[2] Geologists had hoped the fire would use all the fuel in a matter of days, but the gas is still burning today. Locals have dubbed the cavern "The Door to Hell".[3]
 Quoting: pink cat
i would have constructed a giant dome over it with a vent and be using that heat all these years as a power source..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


Not ignorant, actually more informed than most people here. Informed enough to know that this is NATURAL GAS leaking from a salt mine cavern, and NOT methane gas. Again, I ask for a link to ANY STUDY indicating that it is METHANE GAS. If you can't provide one, then I guess this entire post is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8968612


[link to www.edsuite.com]

"Ratard stated in the Oct. 3 letter that high levels of methane have been detected in water wells in the sinkhole area"
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Ummmm.....these tests were done IN A SWAMP and there is NO INDICATION that these levels in INDUSTRIAL WELLS are connected to anything. Methane is a naturally ocurring gas. Been there long before this sink hole. Again, where is the smoking gun, where is the data, where are the HIGH LEVELS OF METHANE GAS "AT AND AROUND" the sinkhole as OP posted? Still NO PROOF!
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So whats the worse possible outcome?
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Set them afire and the outcome is 28 new tourist sites!

Marshmellow stands... MYOS (Make Your Own Smore) franchises...

The possibilties are endless!

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Ok, let's think this through clearly. If this LA sinkhole is truly the threat that we fear, we should see a mass influx of military and government equipment to that area for the aftermath of the disaster. Can anyone confirm an influx of military and/or government equipment/personnel near LA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24381831



Been reading threads on the sinkhole situation and have a few comments and questions.

I'm here in East Texas about 80 miles west of Shreveport. I've noticed nasty foul odors on and off for about two years. I work outdoors and I guess when the wind catches just right you can smell it. Seems like it's coming from the south. Sometimes it does smell like rotten "something" and a couple days ago there were two occasions it was overwhelming. I covered my nose with my shirt because the odor was extremely bad, came up for air and it was still there, seemed like it lasted maybe 30-45 seconds and then it was gone. I don't know anything to compare it to except maybe diesel x10 but no rotten egg smell.

I saw a post about reporting any vehicles or equipment that may be related to this so yesterday I made a point to watch. Now this is in between working so I probably missed a lot more I'm sure.


This is Highway 271 and vehicles traveling south.
(helicopters on and off last week flying southwest)

Numerous pickups/large trucks and semi's with huge generators in the back

Semi's carrying, I have no idea what it is, huge equipment, looks new, kinda like a propeller on a boat motor but the size covers half a semi, a light green in color.

A large truck and on the back a small plane that can land in water. Never saw that before, not around here.

Lots of official looking pickups with their emblems on the side of the truck but couldn't see what it said; one I caught said United States Department of ????, black pickups with green lettering on the side of the door- Northridge, I think.

A huge bus, Jerusalem Gateway with a church name, probably nothing

Bus with Carter Bloodcare

Right now that's what I recall seeing. Maybe nothing and reading too much into it.

---Had some unusual customers:

There is a pipeline coming from the north and eventually through our town, had several customers with the pipeline. Two guys, you could tell hard working, northern accents, working with the pipeline, got to visiting and talking in general about the situation the world was in, then out of the blue, he said he has stored water in his basement. I guess the way he said it was like he was telling me to store water. The other guy was very quiet, didn't have much to say.

A couple was traveling in an r.v., I asked where they were headed, they looked at each other and after a long lull, said, "We don't know, wherever the road takes us". They seemed uncomfortable after that.

Several people from Louisiana in the last few days. I asked what they thought about the sinkhole, one said it wasn't that big of a deal but had a great deal of knowledge about it, another couple, older in their 70's or so, seemed well to do, had an astonished look on their faces, wife just looked at husband to respond and he stammered a bit while he was shaking his head as to stall to think of something. He just kinda mumbled something so I didn't push it.


Just another thought- this is the same area where all the fires were last year. People here believe and some claim they saw fires being started. Maybe to clear areas in east texas to view something from above? Don't know. I will tell you that there was a guy from the Texas Forestry from California, some kind of supervisor, came to my work a week before the fires started last year and said he was stationed here for a while. I said that's strange the only fire that had gone on around here was one somewhere around Tyler, Tx. He didn't respond.

Now for my question, anyone know what areas in east texas might be affected?

All of this maybe nothing but thought I would post. Not trying to be an alarmist, just reporting what I see and hear.
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All of this maybe nothing but thought I would post. Not trying to be an alarmist, just reporting what I see and hear.
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Understatement of the day... how long did it take you to type all that?
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I'm in the natural gas business they are smelling and tasting the H2S which is lethal in large doses
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Hydrogen Sulfide is lethal in small doses [link to en.wikipedia.org] if this is what folks are smelling/tasting then really,to not sound like a fearmonger,they need to leave as soon as possible.

One nose full of Hydrogen Sulfide is enough to knock you clean out and possibly cause long term effects to the Central Nervous System of any Living Creature.

People should know I am not a Fearmonger - If you are smelling rotten Egg like odors you really need to get out of there,please.
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^^^^
This.

I'm not in the natural gas business but I'm an amature and I produce plenty on my own. I second this notion about the rotten Egg odors.
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Methanex Proceeds With Louisiana Project

" to proceed with the relocation of a one million tonne methanol plant from its Chile site to Geismar, Louisiana"

"Geismar is an excellent location for a methanol project. It possesses world-class infrastructure, skilled workers and is a positive, low-risk environment in which to do business. It is also a large methanol-consuming region which offers the potential for substantial logistics cost savings. We have commenced dismantling of the plant and expect to receive all key permits by the end of 2012"

"The timing of this project is also excellent"

[link to brnoticias.info]

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agent.ready the orbital weapon GLASS again for another tungsten rod ground penetration..lock target on the smaller pipes this time ,lets push the accuracy tests to no limits..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Methanex Proceeds With Louisiana Project

" to proceed with the relocation of a one million tonne methanol plant from its Chile site to Geismar, Louisiana"

"Geismar is an excellent location for a methanol project. It possesses world-class infrastructure, skilled workers and is a positive, low-risk environment in which to do business. It is also a large methanol-consuming region which offers the potential for substantial logistics cost savings. We have commenced dismantling of the plant and expect to receive all key permits by the end of 2012"

"The timing of this project is also excellent"

[link to brnoticias.info]
 Quoting: TeamReaper


So there you go....not coming from sinkhole....methane detected in some INDUSTRIAL WELLS ONLY! Doom off!
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So there you go....not coming from sinkhole....methane detected in some INDUSTRIAL WELLS ONLY! Doom off!
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So the 20+ bubbling sites as far away as 4 miles from the sinkhole which have tested positive for methane are a normal occurrence, in your opinion? SERIOUSLY?
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Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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Methanex Proceeds With Louisiana Project

" to proceed with the relocation of a one million tonne methanol plant from its Chile site to Geismar, Louisiana"

"Geismar is an excellent location for a methanol project. It possesses world-class infrastructure, skilled workers and is a positive, low-risk environment in which to do business. It is also a large methanol-consuming region which offers the potential for substantial logistics cost savings. We have commenced dismantling of the plant and expect to receive all key permits by the end of 2012"

"The timing of this project is also excellent"

[link to brnoticias.info]
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So there you go....not coming from sinkhole....methane detected in some INDUSTRIAL WELLS ONLY! Doom off!
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Shill much?
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Anyone else staring to think the gulf of mexico was not made by an asteroid impact?

And we've been drilling whatever it is. We should have left that whole area well alone. And even if it was made by an asteroid, wouldn't that be a good reason to think that a lot of instability would be around.
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Re: BREAKING: HUGE LEVELS of METHANE at and around LA Sinkhole!!!
Anyone else staring to think the gulf of mexico was not made by an asteroid impact?

And we've been drilling whatever it is. We should have left that whole area well alone. And even if it was made by an asteroid, wouldn't that be a good reason to think that a lot of instability would be around.
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Its been a consideration of mine, GoM could be the whole left over from a previous massive release.
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10/07/2012 05:36 PM
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Re: BREAKING: HUGE LEVELS of METHANE at and around LA Sinkhole!!!
okay, let's get back to the original post. HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS......WHERE? I have yet to see ONE LINK with any proof that there are HUGE LEVELS OF METHANE GAS. The Examiner link does not prove or show any statistics or links to this effect. Again, I ask WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFORMATION? If there are NO STUDIES, NO TESTS, NO DATA, NO LINKS THEN IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.
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OMG!!! Are YOU in over your head!!! You have much reading to do and I would spend all day doing it.
This situation is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen in my life and you think it is a joke?
Wow! Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Not ignorant, actually more informed than most people here. Informed enough to know that this is NATURAL GAS leaking from a salt mine cavern, and NOT methane gas. Again, I ask for a link to ANY STUDY indicating that it is METHANE GAS. If you can't provide one, then I guess this entire post is bullshit.
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For what it's worth, I am NOT a science nerd, to say the LEAST, but my husband is an electrical designer (flow systems) in the oil and gas industry, working mostly with natural gas, and when I mentioned the sinkhole situation to him, the first thing he mentioned was methane. (I had not even said the word.) Now, again, I am really stupid about discussing anything scientific with him -- he's into science and I'm into history, so I just dropped it.

HOWEVER, after reading the above comments, I googled "relationship between natural and methane gas" and came across the following article from Time (Magazine) Science dated May 9, 2011. A short excerpt follows in bold print. (Sorry that I am not computer literate enough to link the whole article, "Another Fracking Mess for the Shale-Gas Industry", but if you are interested, you can probably find it easily enough.)

QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:

"Methane is the main component of natural gas, and Vargason naturally connected the methane in her water to the gas operation just outside her home. But though the gas company installed a venting system on her well to reduce methane buildup, it denied there was any connection between drilling and contamination — a position the industry as a whole has maintained for years. "Unless you can prove how the contamination came, you can't do anything about it," Vargason told me.
(See "Frack: Is Shale Natural Gas Worse for the Climate than Coal?")

"As it turns out, however, that proof may not be so elusive. A new study published in the May 9 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) shows that methane levels in water wells near shale-gas hydrofracking sites are 17 times higher than they are in wells that are far from shale-gas operations. The peer-reviewed paper is the first independent scientific confirmation of something advocates, environmentalists and homeowners have passionately argued, and that the gas industry has vociferously denied.
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Read more: [link to www.time.com]

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