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I would be happy to help answer any questions you may have regarding fundamental Christianity, its history, and the science which backs it. Thank you for your honest inpnut. God bless
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Some Questions in the Video from a Christian convert to Islam, I understand your purpose is pure, please watch.



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why is your God jealous of other Gods?
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God said in the old testament, have no other Gods before me... how does Jesus escape the rap?.. being that we have Budah etc....

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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


cruisecruisecruisecruisecruisecruise

you should be an author... nice.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823



No it isn't. I don't buy the whole slime thing anyway. And nor do most atheists. It's a possibility...that's all.
But christians actually believe what I laid out above in one form or another is how it all happene.
Fuck me running...banana2
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823



No it isn't. I don't buy the whole slime thing anyway. And nor do most atheists. It's a possibility...that's all.
But christians actually believe what I laid out above in one form or another is how it all happene.
Fuck me running...banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25108741


Duuurrr, I'm a stupid atheist and I don't know what I believe in.tard

Fuck off son, the history of man as explicated by the Bible is filled with such depth, harmony and perfection, simpletons like you have no idea what its trying to convey. Go back to your Maoist commune re-education camp you foul mindless demon.
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What are your thoughts on a person accepting the New Testament but rejecting the Old Testament?
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What are your thoughts on a person accepting the New Testament but rejecting the Old Testament?
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because it's new-er-er....
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823



No it isn't. I don't buy the whole slime thing anyway. And nor do most atheists. It's a possibility...that's all.
But christians actually believe what I laid out above in one form or another is how it all happene.
Fuck me running...banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25108741


Duuurrr, I'm a stupid atheist and I don't know what I believe in.tard

Fuck off son, the history of man as explicated by the Bible is filled with such depth, harmony and perfection, simpletons like you have no idea what its trying to convey. Go back to your Maoist commune re-education camp you foul mindless demon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823



Harmony? Depth? You probably say the same shit about a mills & boon novel.
Your fraudulent beliefs show you to be exactly what you are.
Arrogant, childish and uneducated :-)
Now bend over...jesus is coming ;-)rockon
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You're right, most evolutionists believe in things like aliens planting life on earth, or absolutely nothing creating everything. Neither really explains anything.

atheists fall into two general groups, the ones who realize that by their views humans are born from nothing, die into nothing, and are equally insignificant (nihists), stupidly believe in greater good despite no "evidence" to support it, or simply ignore any questions about it in their subconscious.

Unfortunately ignoring the metaphysical because you cannot grasp it with your physical body does not make it nonexistent. Neither does imagining a real thing does not exist, make it not exist.
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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because they stole the name........

L.R.Hubbard tards.. don't get me started.....

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lOOK..ASK GOD..OK..talk right now out loud where u are at now..

SAY YA..THIS CLOWN GONVIRAL SAY'S TO ASK IF YOU EXIST GOD?

its that easy..k.

if something happens great!

if not that's ok too.
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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because they stole the name........

L.R.Hubbard tards.. don't get me started.....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Dianetics at least tries to be Science.
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lOOK..ASK GOD..OK..talk right now out loud where u are at now..

SAY YA..THIS CLOWN GONVIRAL SAY'S TO ASK IF YOU EXIST GOD?

its that easy..k.

if something happens great!

if not that's ok too.
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nothing happened....... oh well..... this wine tastes nice, and I work with stuff I like tommorrow.....

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 10/07/2012 04:42 AM
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More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
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No it isn't. I don't buy the whole slime thing anyway. And nor do most atheists. It's a possibility...that's all.
But christians actually believe what I laid out above in one form or another is how it all happene.
Fuck me running...banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25108741


Duuurrr, I'm a stupid atheist and I don't know what I believe in.tard

Fuck off son, the history of man as explicated by the Bible is filled with such depth, harmony and perfection, simpletons like you have no idea what its trying to convey. Go back to your Maoist commune re-education camp you foul mindless demon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24924823



Harmony? Depth? You probably say the same shit about a mills & boon novel.
Your fraudulent beliefs show you to be exactly what you are.
Arrogant, childish and uneducated :-)
Now bend over...jesus is coming ;-)rockon
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25108741


Nah son, just someone who actually cracked open a book or too, and synthesized the writings Jung, Wittgenstein, James, Dostoyevsky, Eliot, Tolstoy, Auden, etc.,

Not some numb nutz who watched a few too many BBC reports. Tis all.
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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Christian Science is certainly more accurate an prescient than Science. I mean, think about it, Christian Science denounced modern Western medicine as completely inneffectual over a hundred years ago. And what disease has medicine cured in the last 60 years???? Zero. Nada. Zip.

Christian Science FTW!!!
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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Christian Science is certainly more accurate an prescient than Science. I mean, think about it, Christian Science denounced modern Western medicine as completely inneffectual over a hundred years ago. And what disease has medicine cured in the last 60 years???? Zero. Nada. Zip.

Christian Science FTW!!!
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Smallpox for a start, what disease has prayer cured?
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why is your God jealous of other Gods?
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The main part of this is the aspect of Creation. This is where people would use the word 'jealous'. The fact that so many people worship idols and false gods is not only against one of the commandments, but it belittles the very fact that He is God. After all, the first sentence in the Bible says "In the beginning, God created".. If you slip up there, youre in big trouble for the rest.
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God said in the old testament, have no other Gods before me... how does Jesus escape the rap?.. being that we have Budah etc....
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No fundamental Christian worships Jesus above Jesus' God. He is the Son. There is a holy trinity. The Son worshipped the Father as we do (or strive to).
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
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A 'tiny planet'? Size hardly has anything to do with this. The fact that we are able to use our unique position in the solar system to observe the rest of the universe is quite interesting, however (eclipses, etc). The snake was the embodiment of evil. We see this everyday, people acting evil and like demons. Why question God's plan in the first place? If GOd is all-powerful, would the likes of us be able to figure out why he does such things? Mainstream science believes in a big bang and primordial soup. And you question why God would do something?
The names of the descendants in the Bible, especially the genealogy of Jesus, can be historically cross-referenced through records. You think Israel/Judah didnt keep track of who its first Kings were?
This 'smorgasboard' of violence you speak of, a lot has to do with people who were actually rebelling against God. Sodom and Gomorrah are other more well-known examples. Many people were duped into worshipping false gods, actually taking up arms against God, and began other less-savory actions also. Please quote a specific chapter and verse (KJV) if you are going to generalize a whole book on this, please.

My question to you is, if you know Jesus' message was to 'love one another', why is it so hard for you to accept? Do you really buy into the big bang and primordial soup garbage? This has no scientific basis whatsoever. Do you really want to live in a world where only the strong survive and the weak can be swept aside or even killed? Thats an evil and meaningless life, imo.
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Ok :-)

Do you seriously believe that an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent god would engage in the following...?

After creating a vast and unending universe he decides to bring into existence a being in his own image (he already has a few in the form of angels but would like something a little more basic).

So he chooses a tiny planet which circles a less than average sized star for his new toy. He creates a man, gives him a lovely garden and then after some time decides that this lonely soul needs a mate.

Out with a rib and presto! Woman.

Now the woman is a blight from the start (typical rligious chauvanism) and has a conversation with a snake. A snake!
The snake tells her that she can become an ubermensch if she snacks on a certain fruit from a tree god doesn't want anyone to touch (why place the tree there in the first place?).

So she does, and all that happens is that she realises she's naked (wow, that's naughty!)
The man, being what men are is easily duped by the promise of poon and so he too has a munch and suddenly he's ashamed of his bare ass.

Now there's some fucking and whatnot, some boys are born and one eventuall bumps the other dumass off...
Sound like a story only a human could come up with?
From there the rest of the book is a smorgasbord of violence, intolerance, hatred, genocide, patracide, infantacide,incest and some shit they haven't yet put into movies!

Jump ahead and what happens?

Out with the jealous, violent stormgod and in with the soft and thoroughly pathetic figure of jesus. God on earth.
Long forgotten are all the stuffy rules of what you can do with your dick and when. No more stonings, daughter offerings and menstrual phobias.
The stormgod is now a peace loving character.
Next, the suicide (which it is if jesus was god incarnate), a resurrection and up into heaven on a cloud.

I've left out most of the really insane bits like water skiing, booze production and the fish and chips shop that never runs low on ingredients for the sake of brevity and because most of us have been exposed to this nonsense before.

So, my question is...Why do you believe this?

:-)
 Quoting: tardrat 25108741


More believable than a some primordial ooze being struck by lightning and voila... the music of Mozart! rofl
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No it isn't. I don't buy the whole slime thing anyway. And nor do most atheists. It's a possibility...that's all.
But christians actually believe what I laid out above in one form or another is how it all happene.
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If you dont believe in the slime thing, and you dont believe in the Bible, what do you believe in regarding the origin of life on earth or the creation of the universe? If you have no belief either way, why come here to bash then?
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What are your thoughts on a person accepting the New Testament but rejecting the Old Testament?
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The Old Testament gave the laws for the children of Israel to follow about 2,000 years ago. Guess what? This is where our common law system got its basis today. Not only are most commandments universal laws, but it also gave us trial by witnesses/jury, capital punishment, etc.
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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All science backs up fundamental Christianity. Evidence of the flood, lack of missing links/intermediary fossils, etc.. Did you have a more specific question that I could try to help you with sir?
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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Christian Science is certainly more accurate an prescient than Science. I mean, think about it, Christian Science denounced modern Western medicine as completely inneffectual over a hundred years ago. And what disease has medicine cured in the last 60 years???? Zero. Nada. Zip.

Christian Science FTW!!!
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Nobody in their right minds can argue against advancements like antiseptics and penicillin to be extremely helpful. But who is to say that people werent just as healthy thousands of years ago, if not more? No McDonalds, cigarettes, etc.. Also our ozone layer and electromagnetic atmosphere are both deteriorating (atheists hate this 2nd law of thermodynamics), which means that there was probably a much healther air quality way back then.
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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Christian Science is certainly more accurate an prescient than Science. I mean, think about it, Christian Science denounced modern Western medicine as completely inneffectual over a hundred years ago. And what disease has medicine cured in the last 60 years???? Zero. Nada. Zip.

Christian Science FTW!!!
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Smallpox for a start, what disease has prayer cured?
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How did smallpox come about? Or any diseases, for that matter? If man evolved over time from millions of years of rain on rocks and a primordial soup, wouldnt we perfect enough to not get any diseases?
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Just a little nitpicky point about the difference between jealous and envious...

To envy is to lust after what is not yours.

To be jealous is to carefully protect what is yours.

So God being jealous is not a bad thing at all, but good, because he will hold people to account who try to take what doesn't belong to them, whether it's the honor belonging to God or the peace and safety of his people.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Why is there no Science in Christian Science?
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because they stole the name........

L.R.Hubbard tards.. don't get me started.....
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Mary Baker Eddy started the Christian Science Church. L. Ron Hubbard started Scientology.... Completely Different!
Christians are the most ignorant fucks when it comes to history or other religons... Half of them do not even understand their own. You cannot argue reason with someone who does not understand reason.
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