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U.S. Real Unemployment is 42%!

 
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Double post -- sorry :o(Sorry, Gov. I tried to respond to you.

Double posted; tried to remove one post & the system removed both.

I am too lazy to redo it all.

Simple answer: I would love an organic farm, tried to buy one but folks are too buried in the banks to sell for an amount that can be financed.

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This President is a master trickster!! And so are his administrative heads and Aides!! These devils are very comfortable with the destruction of the middle class!! And they have become very good at it. And they don't want to relinquish this power and authority. They are incensed on taking America down. And they don't want to go until America falls and their new order puppet masters are totally in charge. And their banker/illuminutie/bilderberger/oil baron, satanist are always having dreams of having their One World Satanic Super 1984 Orwellian Brave New World!!

Where they can enslave the masses and make you take their mark of the beast chip in your forehead or right hand. And this chip will make you their beast chipped zombie brainless slave, until Jesus returns and conquers them and take His planet Earth back. And those who take the chip or mark of the beast will be tormented 24/7, in the great lake of fire and brimstone, forever and ever and ever!!
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Why don't we set as our goal 100% unemployment, where everyone grows their own food, has free water, solar and wind to generate energy, a world where all the basics necessities are free and there is no debt. A barter economy.

Yeah, i'd set aside a couple of hours every day to tend my own or help in a community garden, where there are public orchards and if you're hungry just go pick something to eat.

Lots of free time to pursue any study, participate in sports, hang out with your friends, and develop the non-material aspects of our beings.

We really don't "need" 95% of the shit our "advanced" economy provides. All we need is air, food, water, shelter, and friends.

Yeah, I know . . .
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Yea man... I hear you..
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I wonder how many of those are babies?
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There are 242 million working age Americans. Only 142 million Americans are working.

That means 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
 Quoting: Yewp 25107672


I wonder, do they factor in the people who are self employed?
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FFS.. I guess they don't count extremely stupid people such as yourself.
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You do understand that unemployment means "currently looking for work, but cannot find it, after having lost a job".

Many people are not looking for jobs. Things you need to consider


Stay-at-home moms
College Students
People who work under table


I know quite a few of each group, and they usually need someone who works full-time to support them, but still trying to count them as unemployed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23607011


Everything needs to be broken down further, such as by region, by state, by metro area, etc. You'll find there's a multi-tier America: A few big metro areas are doing pretty well, a few states are doing pretty well, VAST sections of the country are in dire straits. I'm in Boston and we're doing pretty well, metro unemployment rate is 5%, one of the lowest in the country. MA as a whole [primarily because of how well metro Boston is doing] is doing pretty well, compared to other parts of the country. BUT, go 40 miles south of Boston into Rhode Island, and you're in a state that has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. Go north into rural northern New England, or into the rural western part of the state, and the economy sucks bad.

Also, I've noticed FAR MORE people just hanging around all the time during week when most folks of course work, and this is something you never saw in the past.
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There are 242 million working age Americans. Only 142 million Americans are working.

That means 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working.

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 Quoting: Yewp 25107672


How many of those are homemakers or don't want to work?
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These new world order devils and the Obama Aministration will do anything to stay in power and to bankrupt the United States and to destroy our economy!! Obama has done a great job in the destruction of the middle class; and he will continue to do so!!
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Why don't we set as our goal 100% unemployment, where everyone grows their own food, has free water, solar and wind to generate energy, a world where all the basics necessities are free and there is no debt. A barter economy.

Yeah, i'd set aside a couple of hours every day to tend my own or help in a community garden, where there are public orchards and if you're hungry just go pick something to eat.

Lots of free time to pursue any study, participate in sports, hang out with your friends, and develop the non-material aspects of our beings.

We really don't "need" 95% of the shit our "advanced" economy provides. All we need is air, food, water, shelter, and friends.

Yeah, I know . . .
 Quoting: TymeTraveller


We already do that, just more efficiently. It's called division of labor.
 Quoting: The Governor


That is not what we do. Division of labour, maybe, but only those lucky enough to get paid enough for their labour can take advantage of the fruits of said labour. And currently we are running out of labour to divide.
Because division of labour works better ona smaller scale, not a global one.
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You are gibbering nonsense. Read my statement on the Malthus falsehood.
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Double post -- sorry :o(Sorry, Gov. I tried to respond to you.

Double posted; tried to remove one post & the system removed both.

I am too lazy to redo it all.

Simple answer: I would love an organic farm, tried to buy one but folks are too buried in the banks to sell for an amount that can be financed.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Fair enough, I wasn't castigating you, just sharing some ideas that would seem to further your goal of helping people.

hf
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These new world order devils and the Obama Aministration will do anything to stay in power and to bankrupt the United States and to destroy our economy!! Obama has done a great job in the destruction of the middle class; and he will continue to do so!!
 Quoting: moses767


I am quite concerned that the Obama regime will not allow the 2012 election.

They are all facing serious jail time, and in several cases, execution for treason. If I was in as deep as they are, with their "morals", I wouldn't hesitate to kill a few million people to keep my head out of the noose.
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Double post -- sorry :o(Sorry, Gov. I tried to respond to you.

Double posted; tried to remove one post & the system removed both.

I am too lazy to redo it all.

Simple answer: I would love an organic farm, tried to buy one but folks are too buried in the banks to sell for an amount that can be financed.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Fair enough, I wasn't castigating you, just sharing some ideas that would seem to further your goal of helping people.

hf
 Quoting: The Governor


Check your mailbox. Sent a link to the farm I want.

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I wonder how many of those are babies?
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Double post -- sorry :o(Sorry, Gov. I tried to respond to you.

Double posted; tried to remove one post & the system removed both.

I am too lazy to redo it all.

Simple answer: I would love an organic farm, tried to buy one but folks are too buried in the banks to sell for an amount that can be financed.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Fair enough, I wasn't castigating you, just sharing some ideas that would seem to further your goal of helping people.

hf
 Quoting: The Governor


Check your mailbox. Sent a link to the farm I want.

Halloween Kitty
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Got it (can't respond cuz I'm a cheapskate user and we don't have respond option to msgs).

Gorgeous.

Offer them your best offer, and sweeten it with an ongoing percentage of any profit you make from commercializing it. Call it a license or consulting fee, so you can deduct it from your corporate tax. Ends up costing you not a dime more than your base offer.

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how many of those are mothers taking care of their children like they are supposed to be
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how many of those are mothers taking care of their children like they are supposed to be
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Not enough!

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What I don't understand is how an american have the gut to call other countries socialist or communist when 50% of their jobs are government jobs...and the 50 millions jobless are on food stamps

look there is probably few countries at the moment that can be considerate communist....probably US rank second after North Korea
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obongo the affirmative action, homo, muzzief*ckwit, communist, will take the US all the way to the top of your list!
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What I don't understand is how an american have the gut to call other countries socialist or communist when 50% of their jobs are government jobs...and the 50 millions jobless are on food stamps

look there is probably few countries at the moment that can be considerate communist....probably US rank second after North Korea
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The REAL U.S. unemployment is 8.5%.
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Thread: Faulty New Unemployment Numbers Totally Misleading

"The unemployment rate decreased to 7.8 percent in September, and total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 114,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care and in transportation and warehousing but changed little in most other major industries.


Household Survey Data The unemployment rate declined by 0.3 percentage point to 7.8 percent in September. For the first 8 months of the year, the rate held within a narrow range of 8.1 and 8.3 percent. The number of unemployed persons, at 12.1 million, decreased by 456,000 in September. "

[link to www.bls.gov]

If you're wondering "How the hell did THAT happen?" Simple.


1. The ranks of the employed rose 873,000. [link to www.bls.gov]


2. Of these, 574-thosuand were "estimated" into existence with the CES Birth/Death model. Hmmm...
[link to www.bls.gov]


3. All of the job growth came in "services". The ugly part is goods producing (like manufacturing jobs, you know, the kind that have been mostly jobjacked to Asia and Mexico? ) actually went down 10,000 for the month. Durable goods jobs down 13K
[link to www.bls.gov]


4. 81-thosuand jobs were found by 167-19 year olds. And on it goes.


After all the smoke and mirrors, notice please that the U-6 under-employed rate was still 14.7%.

[link to www.bls.gov]

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I wonder how many of those are babies?
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"working age"
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There are 242 million working age Americans. Only 142 million Americans are working.

That means 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
 Quoting: Yewp 25107672


I wonder, do they factor in the people who are self employed?
 Quoting: CitizenX1


Depends if those self employed draw a check from the regular payroll or take draws directly from the ledger.

Those that draw a check from regular payroll are able to get unemployment checks. While those that draw from the ledger are not.
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Unfunded liabilities now $238 TRILLION [link to www.silverdoctors.com] Do some math on that one.

$238 TRILLION unfunded liabilities
$16 trillion official debt


So each one of those working, because the unemployed cannot pay anything owe 254 trillion dollars

$1,788,732.00 per working citizen!

So every working american owes around 2 million dollars for their share of the debt. The kid and McDonalds, the guy at the parts store, the guy washing windows, driving taxi, etc. etc. etc.
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It's interesting, because 1.7mil is about how much an individual nets in thier lifetime.
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What I don't understand is how an american have the gut to call other countries socialist or communist when 50% of their jobs are government jobs...and the 50 millions jobless are on food stamps

look there is probably few countries at the moment that can be considerate communist....probably US rank second after North Korea
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There are 242 million working age Americans. Only 142 million Americans are working.

That means 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
 Quoting: Yewp 25107672


You want a scarier version, nearly 1/3 of those are government employees or contracted through the government.

You know the good old government employee, who costs us all, and produces nothing.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


thus making it more like 60%?
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Good figuring there, I wonder if other can do the same.
 Quoting: Daughter


Agree it's an interesting number.


Back in the old days, it would be expected that the women would not work, at least not after marriage. I know that's changed -- a lot. Do you think we now expect women to work just the same as men, or somewhat less still?

If raising kids, it still makes a lot of sense for one parent to stay home. Otherwise you have to hire someone to do that job, and legally you're supposed to pay all sorts of taxes and at least minimum wage. If one parent stays home, it's entirely out of the tax system (though there have been proposals to tax that "labor" too.)

Some people are rich and live off investment income. Has Mitt Romney had a job recently? No because he lives off investment income.

Some people are comfortable on welfare. 'Nuff said there.

So one would have to adjust the number for these cases. But it makes as much sense as the other way we count, where when people exhaust their unemployment benefits they are not counted any longer, and we never count people whose businesses have failed or are not eligible for unemployment insurance.

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