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Ground Under Fukushima Unit 4 is Sinking — Now in danger of collapse!!!!

 
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Bedrock, not Mudstone!
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We doing this dance again..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Up to you!
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In order to build the plant - originally only Unit 1 - the upper sedimentary layers were excavated. These are Quaternary alluvial deposits composed of clay and sand which are friable or semi-hard (green and brown in the cross-section). Thus the plant was built on "mudrock" type sedimentary rock (yellow in the cross-section), which is a muddy rock composed of clay and silt (very fine sand). But the term "muddy" does not mean that the rock is soft. It simply means that it is a rock whose matrix is clay; it is also called "argillite".


Source: [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

[link to a34.idata.over-blog.com]
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


This report is much better... chuckle

Lying by omission is still lying.. in case you are keeping track.
I am...



The Geology of Fukushima
[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

[snip]

The first paper brings together two cross-sections of the ground at the site of the future plant: one east-west, another north-south. Based on this document, backed by a photo of the site before construction (1966), we realize that the coast was originally rocky and that the sedimentary plateau has been excavated in order to achieve the earthwork for the construction of the nuclear plant. As anticipated in the cross-section (marked by the dotted red line), the excavation lowers the ground to 10 meters above the sea and the digging of the basement is below sea level.

In several of these cross-sections, an ancient fault, predating the later Miocene, is clearly visible under the nuclear site. Whereas the geological survey conducted prior to the construction of the plant does not reveal this fault (drilling did not go beyond a depth of 200 meters at the time), it is clear from the documents dated 2009 and 2010 that Tepco and the NSC have known about it for several years.

One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain. This groundwater, he claims, is flowing under the plain towards the sea at a very low speed of about 50 cm / day (3).

And finally, there is the problem of the type of rock on which the plant was built being rather "soft", meaning that an earthquake can only destabilize the buildings.
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Get a BrIAn, you MorAn!
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fixed it for you.

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The Atom PLOY .... Answering with GENERALITIES AGAIN !

Never said it fuel pool 4 would be upside down either. Just MORE obfuscation to 'Muddy the waters', obscure the FACTS. With a four to five story drop it would SMASH to pieces and NEVER be able to hold water OR the fuel inside, as YOU well know, fool !
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HAVE to be careful posting on weekends, WHEN the muddy Atom is home on weekend pass from his asylum !
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C/mon, than describe what you think about a Collapse,
let us see your Idea about this!
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@ Waterbug, it was Mudrock 56.000.000 (Fifty-Six Million) years ago!
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Mitsuhei Murata, Former Japanese Ambassador to Switzerland: Due to its ground has been sinking, Unit 4 is now endangered in collapse. [...] According to secretary of former Prime Minister Kan, the ground level of the building has been sinking 80 cm [31.5 inches] unevenly. Because the ground itself has the problem, whether the building can resist a quake bigger than M6 still remains a question.
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gasp

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@ Waterbug, it was Mudrock 56.000.000 (Fifty-Six Million) years ago!
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So what's your point..? It still cracks like pottery.

We're not talking Cambrian Shield, here.
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One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain.
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for the ppl who still 'feel' here -dont bother responding to the senseless shills from such location -their manipulative deathist manner shows their emptiness, so no point.
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lol

What are Fraggle you are!


People like you see the World with blinkered Eye's!
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interesting you bothered to respond
interesting i bothered..
lol

its all coming back man, trust
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The bedrock is not sinking. Nothing to worry about other than a lack of cooling to the Fuel Rods for a period of 100 hours or more after a collapse. Not likely, even if the trimmed down building collapses violently. You just erect a dam around the collapsed building and fill it up with water.
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@ Waterbug, it was Mudrock 56.000.000 (Fifty-Six Million) years ago!
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So what's your point..? It still cracks like pottery.

We're not talking Cambrian Shield, here.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You should start to work as a Geologist with
your immense knowledge of Geology, Stability and Architecture!

Chuckle
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In order to build the plant - originally only Unit 1 - the upper sedimentary layers were excavated. These are Quaternary alluvial deposits composed of clay and sand which are friable or semi-hard (green and brown in the cross-section). Thus the plant was built on "mudrock" type sedimentary rock
(yellow in the cross-section), which is a muddy rock composed of clay and silt (very fine sand). But the term "muddy" does not mean that the rock is soft. It simply means that it is a rock whose matrix is clay; it is also called "argillite".

Source: [link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

[link to a34.idata.over-blog.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


The Geology of Fukushima
[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

[snip]
One dissenting Japanese geologist, for example, - who wishes to remain anonymous - has been noted for his views expressed on a U.S. forum, "Physics Forum": according to him, the bedrock of the region is made of coarse, very permeable sandstones, and contains vast amounts of water from the neighboring Abukuma mountain.
 Quoting: the mighty Atom



I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock..

I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock.

Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone.
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I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock..

I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock.

Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But it is not "MUDROCK"!

The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this
because we had this Discussion already Months ago!

iamwith

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Wtff
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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No worries, just an ELE...
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock..

I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock.

Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But it is not "MUDROCK"!

The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this
because we had this Discussion already Months ago!

iamwith
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


You mean the discussion in which I introduced you to the term..?
You had never heard of it..
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Spent rods did burn threw the crust then hit the water table.
So some ground stability could sink somewhat.
They probably filled those areas with lead adding more weight.



Mexico city is also sinking a couple inches a year.
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Get a BrIAn, you MorAn!
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fixed it for you.

banana2
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lol proper funny!
the mighty Atom

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I have to assume that your point is that it is bedrock..

I would also have to assume that you consider the generic use of the term bedrock means something more than it does... and that you don't differentiate between differing geological qualities of bedrock.

Whatever floats your boat. You aren't fooling anyone.
 Quoting: Waterbug


But it is not "MUDROCK"!

The term "Mudrock" is wrong and you (must) know this
because we had this Discussion already Months ago!

iamwith
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You mean the discussion in which I introduced you to the term..?
You had never heard of it..
 Quoting: Waterbug


another do

Okay, you won!

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A drop like that would explain why unit 4 was photoshopped.

[link to www.psdisasters.com]
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Maybee we can teleport it to Iran. They want a nuke facility.....lets give them one..

A gift..
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[link to enenews.com]

Uh Oh...

kpkw
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5* and a bump

Nice post waterbug...
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Here is a pop quiz for you...

Why is the ground sinking under the reactor?

It's called CHINA SYNDROME from an uncontrollable meltdown... What's left of the reactor will soon be swallowed up by the hole..
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Dont worry about fuku RADS, it wont hurt us. WW3 is more imminent. Those RADS are coming sooner then fuku.
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Haven't read the thread yet, but want to tell you.

My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami.

We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story.

His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US.

Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly?

Is it because of the subject of this thread?
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The total number of days between Sunday, October 7th, 2012 and Friday, December 21st, 2012 is 75 days.

This is equal to exactly 2 months and 14 days.
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Haven't read the thread yet, but want to tell you.

My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami.

We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story.

His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US.

Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly?

Is it because of the subject of this thread?
 Quoting: uh oh 25101733


ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh you will wake up the dolphin punchers
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Haven't read the thread yet, but want to tell you.

My roommate's nephew is in the Navy and has been stationed at Fukushima since shortly after the tsunami.

We all must assume he's a dead man walking by now, but that's another story.

His mother just said that the ship he's on is about to (or has already) pulled out of Fukushima (unexpectedly) and is heading for west coast US.

Why would a ship leave its station unexpectedly?

Is it because of the subject of this thread?
 Quoting: uh oh 25101733


ssssssshhhhhhhhhhh you will wake up the dolphin punchers
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Rofl

What is with all the Americans in Yokusuka Base,
do the US Government let them die and save only the
Room-mates Nephew?

lol
G.Y.!B.E.
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