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Upcoming Supreme Court case : Can you resell your own stuff???

 
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One word...unenforceable!
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this law will never pass, not because they care about your rights, but because it will open up huge blackmarket buying and selling and government will miss out on sales taxes
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how do you tax a barter system?- and what would be the loop holes?
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This is actually aimed straight at barter systems. You don't even tax them, you make it impossible for them to exist by preventing barterers with matching trading desires from finding each other, by outlawing their internet ads.
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Can you imagine a Honda dealership? "Yeah, we'll give you $2,000 trade-in value for your 2010 Accord.". "WTF?" "OK, don't take our offer -- you're not allowed to sell it at all now".



They uphold this and the economy goes KABOOOOOOM.
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It would stimulate the economy wouldn't it? Shut down ebay and craigslist resales and make people buy newly manufactured stuff.

Agree, though, it's insane, a terrible idea. Sounds like just the sort of crap John Roberts (traitor) would vote for.
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John Roberts is a republican. This is a republican initiative. Therefore if John Roberts is a "traitor" he will vote against it and it will fail.

THe republicans real wet dream to stimulate the economy is to kill off public libraries. This will force people to buy rather than borrow. Also resale of old items would hurt libraries too, because a lot of libraries are reselling old books dvds and cds to subsidize their budgets.

So remember little republican sheep, buy buy buy, because it's all going bye bye bye real soon.
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I sorta meant traitor to the USA, recalling his evasive trickery to get Obamacare upheld in the SCOTUS.
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Can you imagine a Honda dealership? "Yeah, we'll give you $2,000 trade-in value for your 2010 Accord.". "WTF?" "OK, don't take our offer -- you're not allowed to sell it at all now".



They uphold this and the economy goes KABOOOOOOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


It would stimulate the economy wouldn't it? Shut down ebay and craigslist resales and make people buy newly manufactured stuff.

Agree, though, it's insane, a terrible idea. Sounds like just the sort of crap John Roberts (traitor) would vote for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


John Roberts is a republican. This is a republican initiative. Therefore if John Roberts is a "traitor" he will vote against it and it will fail.

THe republicans real wet dream to stimulate the economy is to kill off public libraries. This will force people to buy rather than borrow. Also resale of old items would hurt libraries too, because a lot of libraries are reselling old books dvds and cds to subsidize their budgets.

So remember little republican sheep, buy buy buy, because it's all going bye bye bye real soon.
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I sorta meant traitor to the USA, recalling his evasive trickery to get Obamacare upheld in the SCOTUS.
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let's just hope he is a traitor to your party then and that this will fail
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
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Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
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you must recieve a mark to buy or sell
right hand or forehead 666 bingo
and i aint talking puppy dog
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10/07/2012 06:09 PM
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One word...unenforceable!
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this law will never pass, not because they care about your rights, but because it will open up huge blackmarket buying and selling and government will miss out on sales taxes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22775281


how do you tax a barter system?- and what would be the loop holes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25113645


This is actually aimed straight at barter systems. You don't even tax them, you make it impossible for them to exist by preventing barterers with matching trading desires from finding each other, by outlawing their internet ads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


how can they enforce any constraints on a barter system? think about it...2 people make a trade of goods or services; how is any official going to know about the trade?

they won't....this is simply a stupid piece of legislation..it's UNENFORCEABLE. people will barter no matter what the court says....nobody can stop them.
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
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Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
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you must recieve a mark to buy or sell
right hand or forehead 666 bingo
and i aint talking puppy dog
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no, that's not what the "mark" is...it's the belief you have in your mind...when satan offers you all the money you want in exchange you have to pledge your soul to satan...ya gonna do it? in other words, if you use satan's money, you've taken the mark of the beast...you are following satan.

if you refuse his money bribe, and barter for what you need, you follow Christ....who will always provide for his sheep............you just have to not be deceived by the money game satan is going to play on you.
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slowly taking away any way for you to make a living outside of the system Got too make more Debt slaves after all.

What do you think the average person works in a life time? how much free time do they have, over time spent working.
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[link to www.whydowork.com]

I've been thinking recently about how short life is and, on average, how much of it we spend working. I decided to do some calculations and see exactly how our time is used. If we consider that an average working week is 40 hours then that equates to 1,960 hours per year once annual holidays are deducted. That's 22.4% of our lives, not including any overtime that we may be required to complete.

I took it a step further because I was intrigued how many hours that we spend working in an average lifetime. This is where things really add up. Allowing for school and tertiary education, let's assume that the average person begins their working life at age 21 and retires at 65. That's a career that spans 44 years. If we use the same 40-hour working week we arrive at a figure of 91,250 hours!

That's a huge amount of time and accordingly it's a huge proportion of our lives that is consumed in this way. The average human life expectancy in developed countries is 78 years, which means that we sleep for about 205, 000 hours. All our other chores and tasks have to be done in the remaining time which means that there's often very little time left for relaxation and leisure.

I could go on quoting facts and figures but I'm sure you understand the point. It all begs the obvious questions: "are we happy with this?" and "does it really need to be this way?"
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Please break this down to include "AWAKE" hours..in other words how much awake time we spend working as opposed to being FREE.
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10/07/2012 06:15 PM
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maybe you can't resell your own stuff, but maybe you'll be able to rent it??!!

rofl
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10/07/2012 06:50 PM
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why unpinned?

not anti-obama enough
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ok

I get it


it's Obama's fault


can this be re-pinned now?

please
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bumpin bumpin bumpin
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18808660


Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


you must recieve a mark to buy or sell
right hand or forehead 666 bingo
and i aint talking puppy dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25142874


no, that's not what the "mark" is...it's the belief you have in your mind...when satan offers you all the money you want in exchange you have to pledge your soul to satan...ya gonna do it? in other words, if you use satan's money, you've taken the mark of the beast...you are following satan.

if you refuse his money bribe, and barter for what you need, you follow Christ....who will always provide for his sheep............you just have to not be deceived by the money game satan is going to play on you.
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wOw, thanks! now i no! the bible dont mean what it says!
it means what you think or say...mucho gar.cee.us
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18808660


Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


you must recieve a mark to buy or sell
right hand or forehead 666 bingo
and i aint talking puppy dog
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25142874


no, that's not what the "mark" is...it's the belief you have in your mind...when satan offers you all the money you want in exchange you have to pledge your soul to satan...ya gonna do it? in other words, if you use satan's money, you've taken the mark of the beast...you are following satan.

if you refuse his money bribe, and barter for what you need, you follow Christ....who will always provide for his sheep............you just have to not be deceived by the money game satan is going to play on you.
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10/08/2012 12:52 PM
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One word...unenforceable!
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WRONG! All they need to do is BROWSE EBAY for an ILLEGAL ITEM and ebay will get sued or fined. They won't want to put up with the legal hassle...so they will shut down.

Same with craiglist and the like.
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What about PM's, gems or coins made in other countries?
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SCOTUS could get back in good favor if they strike this down, but lately they have been bought.
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in the meantime; Illegals can send monies to Mexico without any repercussions.

Why don't they address THAT problem??????
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It is a sales tax. The danger with this and why it will be passed is for lawsuits.

If someone sells a used item with no sales receipt to a buyer and the item causes injury the buyer could sue the seller for injury.

Give your old junk to charity.

The items that are passed down from generation to generation.. keep passing them down.
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this law will never pass, not because they care about your rights, but because it will open up huge blackmarket buying and selling and government will miss out on sales taxes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22775281


how do you tax a barter system?- and what would be the loop holes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25113645


This is actually aimed straight at barter systems. You don't even tax them, you make it impossible for them to exist by preventing barterers with matching trading desires from finding each other, by outlawing their internet ads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


how can they enforce any constraints on a barter system? think about it...2 people make a trade of goods or services; how is any official going to know about the trade?

they won't....this is simply a stupid piece of legislation..it's UNENFORCEABLE. people will barter no matter what the court says....nobody can stop them.
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Ah ha...for now. But if every single item in the future had an RFID they could enforce it...
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
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Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


Kagan-Obama
Sotameyor-Obama
Roberts-W Bush
Alito-W Bush
Ginsburg-Clinton
Breyer-Clinton
You m-m-m-muh-make me HAAA-PEEE.

Psalm 34:14 - Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.

Romans 5:8 - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist!
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Well most of these judges were hired by Bush and Reagan.

So let's wait for the vote to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884


There is no such thing as aconservative lawyer, they get their only power and prestige from govenment, and without a controlling government to give them power would be hunted for sport to extinction

Ff youre waiting for a lawyer to save you, you will wait a long time or spend everything you have and then some
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You try to sell your house and the Chinese will demand a sales tax on every item of theirs on/of the house....

It will be tacked on to extra sales cost of a certain percentage likely.
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You try to sell your house and the Chinese will demand a sales tax on every item of theirs on/of the house....

It will be tacked on to extra sales cost of a certain percentage likely.
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"Foreign Trademark Resale Fee/Tax" !!!
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maybe you can't resell your own stuff, but maybe you'll be able to rent it??!!

rofl
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a one-time rent fee, which is what the government is calling "resell". Thatis a wonderful idea, as it is throwing government sht back in their silly faces.
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You try to sell your house and the Chinese will demand a sales tax on every item of theirs on/of the house....

It will be tacked on to extra sales cost of a certain percentage likely.
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"Foreign Trademark Resale Fee/Tax" !!!
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They could make some HUGE gains on ownership of America in this way. This is the Ross Perot "take over" warning, or part of it.
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One word...unenforceable!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24917207


this law will never pass, not because they care about your rights, but because it will open up huge blackmarket buying and selling and government will miss out on sales taxes
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22775281


how do you tax a barter system?- and what would be the loop holes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25113645


This is actually aimed straight at barter systems. You don't even tax them, you make it impossible for them to exist by preventing barterers with matching trading desires from finding each other, by outlawing their internet ads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


Life these days is all so STRANGE. I used to get really upset about WHAT I saw happening. But it does no good. They have already past a lot of bills that have the power to enslaved us. They don't need to pass anymore. It does not matter what bills they pass. IT MATTERS IF THEY ENFORCE THEM. SO FAR THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO ENFORCE THEM.

Most of what is going on now is all NOISE and CHATTER to hide or prevent us from realizing what is really happening.
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Last Edited by grefey on 10/08/2012 02:48 PM
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the european court of justice just had a similar case and proclaimed that its legal to sell such products and that you are allowed to sell products with its license without permission from the copyright holder (ex music downloads via itunes)
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John Roberts is a republican. This is a republican initiative. Therefore if John Roberts is a "traitor" he will vote against it and it will fail.


THe republicans real wet dream to stimulate the economy is to kill off public libraries. This will force people to buy rather than borrow. Also resale of old items would hurt libraries too, because a lot of libraries are reselling old books dvds and cds to subsidize their budgets.

So remember little republican sheep, buy buy buy, because it's all going bye bye bye real soon.


You are so wrong. John Roberts IS a liberal in republican clothing. He was the deciding vote that passed OBAMACARE....remember.

This is not a dem issue or a repub issue. This is just another "NUDGE" to get the masses to agree to a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. Then there would not need to be any foreign copyright laws.
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I'll sell my own shit when ever I feel like it...I don't need some flaming black caped screw balls to give me the go ahead either!

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