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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24758430 United States 10/07/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Capitalism is dieing, and its your own god damn fault for voting in a communist! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18808660 Communism dies too - falling of its own weight after 100 million die of starvation. Then the gov't comes to its senses and ignores capitalism, and the country thrives - check out China! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21300769 United States 10/07/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What will the statists say?? Probably yes but you have to pay a tax, otherwise you're a criminal! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884 [link to www.marketwatch.com] Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril It could become illegal to resell your iPhone 4, car or family antiques Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s busy agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4. Will the current justices be seating in their seats this fall? i doubt it. They refused to oust the illegal immigrant in the white house. They refused to honor the OATH they took to uphold the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.....the next POTUS could remove all of them for violating their OATH of office. stay tuned....i think this current court of justices is history a VOTE for Mitt Romney is a VOTE for Ron Paul...i read where the electoral college has demanded proof from POTUS candidates of their eligibility...they will not cast their vote for another ineligible POTUS. Romney is not a natural born citizen Obama is not a citizen... Therefore, it is a very good possibility that the electoral college will elect Ron Paul, counting all Mitt Romney's votes, and give them to Ron Paul who is still a RNC Candidate. The beauty of the electoral college is, the two parties do not have access to the names in the college, it's secret; i don't think even other states know who they are other than their own state. If Ron Paul is elected; you can say adios to the setting justices. You can also say adios to the Federal Reserve Board and a slew of wasteful spending agencies....Ron Paul will trim the government and he will balance the budget...at his age, he has nothing to lose politically; by setting america back on track as a REPUBLIC, and getting rid of acts of congress that go against the US Constitution...i.e. Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and all other spending out of control acts of congress. Are you being serious? This is not even on thedailypaul.com They would be all over it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23597994 United States 10/07/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you imagine a Honda dealership? "Yeah, we'll give you $2,000 trade-in value for your 2010 Accord.". "WTF?" "OK, don't take our offer -- you're not allowed to sell it at all now". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884 They uphold this and the economy goes KABOOOOOOM. It would stimulate the economy wouldn't it? Shut down ebay and craigslist resales and make people buy newly manufactured stuff. Agree, though, it's insane, a terrible idea. Sounds like just the sort of crap John Roberts (traitor) would vote for. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23597994 United States 10/07/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am really starting to like this idea. I take back the "traitor" comment at least as far as the upcoming SCOTUS vote goes. Is there any other way to tell the WTO to fuck off and stimulate demand for domestic products? This would really work!! And I don't see what the WTO could do about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25128402 United Kingdom 10/07/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why now after so many years of doing nothing? if its a problem now it must have always been! what makes a a group of people entitled to tax another ? |
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****SUPERFLY**** User ID: 19055858 United States 10/07/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | slowly taking away any way for you to make a living outside of the system Got too make more Debt slaves after all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869 What do you think the average person works in a life time? how much free time do they have, over time spent working. [link to www.whydowork.com] I've been thinking recently about how short life is and, on average, how much of it we spend working. I decided to do some calculations and see exactly how our time is used. If we consider that an average working week is 40 hours then that equates to 1,960 hours per year once annual holidays are deducted. That's 22.4% of our lives, not including any overtime that we may be required to complete. I took it a step further because I was intrigued how many hours that we spend working in an average lifetime. This is where things really add up. Allowing for school and tertiary education, let's assume that the average person begins their working life at age 21 and retires at 65. That's a career that spans 44 years. If we use the same 40-hour working week we arrive at a figure of 91,250 hours! That's a huge amount of time and accordingly it's a huge proportion of our lives that is consumed in this way. The average human life expectancy in developed countries is 78 years, which means that we sleep for about 205, 000 hours. All our other chores and tasks have to be done in the remaining time which means that there's often very little time left for relaxation and leisure. I could go on quoting facts and figures but I'm sure you understand the point. It all begs the obvious questions: "are we happy with this?" and "does it really need to be this way?" Welcome to HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25113645 United States 10/07/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What will the statists say?? Probably yes but you have to pay a tax, otherwise you're a criminal! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884 [link to www.marketwatch.com] Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril It could become illegal to resell your iPhone 4, car or family antiques Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s busy agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4. Will the current justices be seating in their seats this fall? i doubt it. They refused to oust the illegal immigrant in the white house. They refused to honor the OATH they took to uphold the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.....the next POTUS could remove all of them for violating their OATH of office. stay tuned....i think this current court of justices is history that may induce a terrible trickledown |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 10/07/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps, but, if it becomes law it will be another nail in the coffin..another lame excuse for them to fine/imprison us, if they are looking for a reason to put us out of commission for a while..beat us down with fines, keep us dependent on them... think......what if they took it a step further and shipped offenders to the countries who had their copyright infringed upon, or allowed those countries to punish us under their law?? think Sharia/Islam..good way to get rid of some...not saying they would take it that far, but, who knows... Once it is in the books, there is no stopping them.. Why even let them get their foot in the door with this? You know, if you took this even a step further, we couldn't even sell our HOMES!! Think of all of the foreign building materials, right down to screws and nails and the paint on the walls, which go into constructing a house!!! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 10/07/2012 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Guam - remember that stupid Congressman who said that if more people (i.e., Military personnel) came to live on Guam that it would "tip over"? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25113645 United States 10/07/2012 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what puzzles me the most, is what has changed to cause this to even be a topic for discussion?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25128402 why now after so many years of doing nothing? if its a problem now it must have always been! what makes a a group of people entitled to tax another ? Itisnot about "problem": they never had the HOARDING law before now. You will have to tax the buyer: If you cannot sell your stuff (cannot find buyers), youwillhave to keep it. Youwill then be charged with HOARDING, and your stuff will be stolen legally, and that is the Mafia way (Mafia mentality). Weare in deep denial of the fact that the Mafia has taken over our government. Who is the Mafia? KNOW THINE ENEMY |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24957083 United States 10/07/2012 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | slowly taking away any way for you to make a living outside of the system Got too make more Debt slaves after all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869 What do you think the average person works in a life time? how much free time do they have, over time spent working. [link to www.whydowork.com] I've been thinking recently about how short life is and, on average, how much of it we spend working. I decided to do some calculations and see exactly how our time is used. If we consider that an average working week is 40 hours then that equates to 1,960 hours per year once annual holidays are deducted. That's 22.4% of our lives, not including any overtime that we may be required to complete. I took it a step further because I was intrigued how many hours that we spend working in an average lifetime. This is where things really add up. Allowing for school and tertiary education, let's assume that the average person begins their working life at age 21 and retires at 65. That's a career that spans 44 years. If we use the same 40-hour working week we arrive at a figure of 91,250 hours! That's a huge amount of time and accordingly it's a huge proportion of our lives that is consumed in this way. The average human life expectancy in developed countries is 78 years, which means that we sleep for about 205, 000 hours. All our other chores and tasks have to be done in the remaining time which means that there's often very little time left for relaxation and leisure. I could go on quoting facts and figures but I'm sure you understand the point. It all begs the obvious questions: "are we happy with this?" and "does it really need to be this way?" Add to that business owners who will typically work 80 hours or more a week because of ridiculous laws and regulations just to keep their business operating, while their employees enjoy their leisure time then complain to their boss that they're overworked. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 10/07/2012 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real question is "Can you LEGALLY sell your stuff?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24758430 Of course we can sell our stuff. I'm no lawyer, and I don't play one on TV!!! But it seems to me that an arguement can be made that (1) I worked to earn the money (2) I paid Federal and State taxes on that income (3) I probably paid a Sales Tax on whatever item I bought. Thus (4) that item should totally belong to me should I decide to sell it, or even put it on the front lawn and set fire to it (unless a burn ban is in effect!) "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24351579 United States 10/07/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What will the statists say?? Probably yes but you have to pay a tax, otherwise you're a criminal! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20610884 [link to www.marketwatch.com] Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril It could become illegal to resell your iPhone 4, car or family antiques Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s busy agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4. this is sad, retarded and dangerous, even communism countries aren't this bad |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22761774 United States 10/07/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to have a yard sale, you'll have to get a permit from the IRS Police, needing a list of all the items, a list of all corporate creators of the items, in order to set the prices on all items, which is not flexible and expecting X% tax on what sells. An on site audit will occur at the end of the set sale schedule and all monies will be collected for proper dispersal to all parties concerned. All Corporate creators will be contacted and told of the resale of their licensed property and asked if they want their piece of your pie. They are entitled as they have the same rights as an individual. If there is no response in ten days, they relinquish this right. If they respond, they are elligable for half the money received. You, the yard sale operator, can expect the remaining funds within 6-10 weeks. Thank you for shopping at my yard sale. |
Nancy (Lazaryan) Hutchison User ID: 24843780 United States 10/07/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same book, by the same publisher. (The publisher had been PAID for the book, as well as the author.) The man contacted his friends and relatives in Asia and they bought up these books and sent them to the USA. The man sold the books on Ebay, making over $1.2 million. The publisher is irate. They feel they should get $500 per book if that book is sold in the USA. But, they sold the SAME book in Asia for $50. The federal appellate court decided that US citizens can only resell items that were made here in the USA. This wasn't the Chinese doing a cheap knock-off and infringing on patents or copyrights. THE PUBLISHER WAS PAID on the books that had been produced in Asia. THINK ABOUT THIS. Yes, there are going to be all kinds of problems "selling your stuff". But the UNDERLYING message is important. If you live in the USA...you MUST pay $500 for the same item that is sold by the same manufacturer for $50 in Asia. WHY? Why should it be required by law, that the people in the USA pay 10 times more for a product that what it sells for in Asia??? And all of that manufacturing that we outsourced to Asia, that is really going to bite us in the butt now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24957083 United States 10/07/2012 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want to have a yard sale, you'll have to get a permit from the IRS Police, needing a list of all the items, a list of all corporate creators of the items, in order to set the prices on all items, which is not flexible and expecting X% tax on what sells. An on site audit will occur at the end of the set sale schedule and all monies will be collected for proper dispersal to all parties concerned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22761774 All Corporate creators will be contacted and told of the resale of their licensed property and asked if they want their piece of your pie. They are entitled as they have the same rights as an individual. If there is no response in ten days, they relinquish this right. If they respond, they are elligable for half the money received. You, the yard sale operator, can expect the remaining funds within 6-10 weeks. Thank you for shopping at my yard sale. This is nothing different than it is in Europe. There are similar laws there which just created a "blackmarket" craigslist that the government has absolutely no control over and people continue to sell their items there with ease. They have absolutely no means of enforcing this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25113645 United States 10/07/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is basically a tariff. They took off the tariff for Corporate Society, and are now putting it back, but of course in a perverted manner, on us. Deanna Spingola | 2010-10-07 - One cannot claim to cherish both sovereignty and accept free trade, through "multinational trade organizations and global financial conglomerates." Marx, a mouthpiece minion for the elite, advocated both the income tax and free trade. He said of free trade, "it breaks up old nationalities" and eliminates the "bourgeoisie" (small businessmen). Free trade functions to equalize the masses while elevating the elite and their acquiescent political devotees. |
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