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Why I pick Buddhism over Religion, and achieve a higher level of serenity over religious people

 
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At the end of his life Buddha said: "I am still searching for truth." This statement could be made by countless thousands of scientists, philosophers, and religious leaders throughout all history. However, Jesus Christ made the astounding claim: "I am the truth" (John 14:6). He is the embodiment of all truth. The only answer to man's search is found in Him.

Because everything is created by Him and for Him.

Buddha was a human being like us all. Jesus is God revealed in flesh. Buddha died. Jesus is alive.

Don't lead people astray.
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To make this thread shows you don't.
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Err what? Just sharing the ancient knowledge bro :)
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"and achieve a higher level of serenity over religious people"

This part shows that you have a resentment towards religious people, mainly Christians and there is no serenity where resentment lies.

How do you know what serenity or lack off religious/Christian people have? I have great peace and joy in that I am secure for when the soon to be Great Tribulation kicks off. You cannot beat that serenity!
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Don't get attached to Buddhism, its a trap many fall into! Don't get attached to any religion, let the lesson pass through but don't get obsessed. Allow you mind to constantly change its views and opinions. Allowing yourself to get sucked into Buddhism can be dangerous for your spiritual development, in fact even Buddha himself warned against this. Take the lessons then move on hf
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there is only one truth, and you cant "pick it". it just is and we are part of it without choosing to be.
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Don't get attached to Buddhism, its a trap many fall into! Don't get attached to any religion, let the lesson pass through but don't get obsessed. Allow you mind to constantly change its views and opinions. Allowing yourself to get sucked into Buddhism can be dangerous for your spiritual development, in fact even Buddha himself warned against this. Take the lessons then move on hf
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Completely agree there, i'm not a full on buddhist, i just apply some of the teachings to my life. I meditate very rarely and most of my spirituality comes from within and not Buddhism. But some people are obviously getting the wrong idea!
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To make this thread shows you don't.
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Err what? Just sharing the ancient knowledge bro :)
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"and achieve a higher level of serenity over religious people"

This part shows that you have a resentment towards religious people, mainly Christians and there is no serenity where resentment lies.

How do you know what serenity or lack off religious/Christian people have? I have great peace and joy in that I am secure for when the soon to be Great Tribulation kicks off. You cannot beat that serenity!
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All religions are prisons for the mind.
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sounds like pulling yourself up by tugging at your own bootstraps.
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Your title indicates that you haven't achieved ANY level of serenity over another. Keep working...you've got quite a way to go yet.
watching the "run up" to the elections and the "hopes and dreams" that are built as a result is like watching a dead mouse that is still able to make his exercise wheel go around because his nerves are still twitching that familiar motion...
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Don't get attached to Buddhism, its a trap many fall into! Don't get attached to any religion, let the lesson pass through but don't get obsessed. Allow you mind to constantly change its views and opinions. Allowing yourself to get sucked into Buddhism can be dangerous for your spiritual development, in fact even Buddha himself warned against this. Take the lessons then move on hf
 Quoting: LDreamer100


Completely agree there, i'm not a full on buddhist, i just apply some of the teachings to my life. I meditate very rarely and most of my spirituality comes from within and not Buddhism. But some people are obviously getting the wrong idea!
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Cool :-) They might not understand, or might not be ready to open up enough to want to understand. Toung twister there lol.
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To make this thread shows you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25082285


Err what? Just sharing the ancient knowledge bro :)
 Quoting: valenn


"and achieve a higher level of serenity over religious people"

This part shows that you have a resentment towards religious people, mainly Christians and there is no serenity where resentment lies.

How do you know what serenity or lack off religious/Christian people have? I have great peace and joy in that I am secure for when the soon to be Great Tribulation kicks off. You cannot beat that serenity!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25126053


All religions are prisons for the mind.
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Yeah, religion is just the traditions of Man but a real personal relationship with your Creator is quite another thing. peace
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lol
just because someone makes zen jokes doesn't make then
zenophobic or a zenophile

lighten up
read the sutra,
in the golden age first came a dynastic, imperialistic,
bhraministic creationist

followed by a wheel turning buddha and monastic assembly


they both practiced the austerities of the ten virtues

difference was brahministics believe in a creator god,
hence the evolution/devolution to allah, yahweh, lucifer, aton etc... all vying for top spot and control of the material world

there is no creator to the buddhist, sentient mind creates reality via karma, thoughts, emotions and intentions,
no interest in a physical empire (or they are buddhists gone bad lol) but in taming their own mind

argue semantics all day long
religion vs spirituality
just dont even put the darn goose in the
bottle to begin with

So tired of westerner hippie who only see one aspect of "Buddhism". You are wrong, Buddhism is a religion, you guys mostly have a wishy-washy conception of half-baked pseudo-Zen...budddhism is more than Zen, why don't you put down the new-age paperback Zen and read some academic papers about Buddhist history, doctrine, etc... read about different sects and traditions within Buddhism u will see it is very much a "religion" like any other with rituals, superstitions, etc, but it's probably pointless to talk to u because people see what they want to see.

Don't get me wrong I dont bash Budhism only the shallow new-age Westerner version that ignores 90% of the reality and focus only on "spirituality not religion." pick
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Buddhism is just another religion that you need to break free from. Keep working at it OP. Be like the Buddha not a follower of him. That is not what he wanted.
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Your title indicates that you haven't achieved ANY level of serenity over another. Keep working...you've got quite a way to go yet.
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You call yourself Serenity and yet every post of yours I see your either bitching or telling somone they are doing something wrong lol.. Just saying hf
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why you think you are better than other people lol. higher level of serenity? quit sniffing your own farts
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Buddhism is just another religion that you need to break free from. Keep working at it OP. Be like the Buddha not a follower of him. That is not what he wanted.
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In other words, you should be studying Valennism.
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so true,

I've spent time among, Christians, scientific atheists, Muslims, Pagans, hard core Sabbat Luciferians, Masons, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus, Native Americans, Asians, Blacks from Africa and America, rich and poor whites, a few Europeans....

and what you say rings true for all of them across the board

Buddhism is a spiritual tradition that focuses on personal spiritual development and the attainment of a deep insight into the true nature of life.

Buddhism teaches that all life is interconnected, so compassion is natural and important.

Buddha was not a God.

He never claimed to be a God.

He never claimed to be a son of God.

He never claimed to be a mesasnger of God.

He was a man who achieved Nivana through human effort.

hf
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Where I am is filled with at least 90% Buddhists. They claim a pure Tibetan tradition. Theirs is the unofficial de-facto state religion. And it is very much a religion to them. I am surrounded by both generational practicing Buddhists, as well as secular people who are Buddhist in name only.

I have observed that seemingly most Buddhism practiced here involves worship of Buddha, and to a lesser extent, worshiping or otherwise venerating ancestral and other spirits. This seems quite different than the Buddhism I've researched while in the West. But it is the reality on the ground here.

In the capital city the Buddhist culture is very full of ego, and generally lacking in compassion on the street, accompanied by short tempers and resulting violence, which is common here. I'm not saying this to demean anyone, but simply to illustrate the reality of Buddhist culture as it is practiced in at least one Buddhist-controlled & dominated nation.

The moral of my observation here is that human nature tends to be the same no matter where you are at, or whatever religion people uphold. Buddhism as it is practiced here I've observed holds no special enlightenment over other religions, nor is it tolerant or accepting of other belief systems in practice. It seems to suffer the same limitations I've seen in other religions in practice, as it is limited to the constraints of human nature that also inhibit other religions.

Peace
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To make this thread shows you don't.
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Err what? Just sharing the ancient knowledge bro :)
 Quoting: valenn


I think what he meant by that is not to trust any teacher but ones self.

This is the only thing Buddah should have taught,

If all of the texts of Buddah contained only questions they would be far more relevant and effective.
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Bloody interesting;
way less surprising.

Still feel like my conclusion holds:
Spiritual teaching cannot exist.
Learning only.


peace
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It takes eons practicing Buddhism to become enlightened.
Not a weekend. lol

so true,

I've spent time among, Christians, scientific atheists, Muslims, Pagans, hard core Sabbat Luciferians, Masons, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus, Native Americans, Asians, Blacks from Africa and America, rich and poor whites, a few Europeans....

and what you say rings true for all of them across the board

Buddhism is a spiritual tradition that focuses on personal spiritual development and the attainment of a deep insight into the true nature of life.

Buddhism teaches that all life is interconnected, so compassion is natural and important.

Buddha was not a God.

He never claimed to be a God.

He never claimed to be a son of God.

He never claimed to be a mesasnger of God.

He was a man who achieved Nivana through human effort.

hf
 Quoting: valenn

Where I am is filled with at least 90% Buddhists. They claim a pure Tibetan tradition. Theirs is the unofficial de-facto state religion. And it is very much a religion to them. I am surrounded by both generational practicing Buddhists, as well as secular people who are Buddhist in name only.

I have observed that seemingly most Buddhism practiced here involves worship of Buddha, and to a lesser extent, worshiping or otherwise venerating ancestral and other spirits. This seems quite different than the Buddhism I've researched while in the West. But it is the reality on the ground here.

In the capital city the Buddhist culture is very full of ego, and generally lacking in compassion on the street, accompanied by short tempers and resulting violence, which is common here. I'm not saying this to demean anyone, but simply to illustrate the reality of Buddhist culture as it is practiced in at least one Buddhist-controlled & dominated nation.

The moral of my observation here is that human nature tends to be the same no matter where you are at, or whatever religion people uphold. Buddhism as it is practiced here I've observed holds no special enlightenment over other religions, nor is it tolerant or accepting of other belief systems in practice. It seems to suffer the same limitations I've seen in other religions in practice, as it is limited to the constraints of human nature that also inhibit other religions.

Peace
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I wonder if Homo erectus ever sat around grunting about being depressed?
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I'm a Buddhist who follows Christ.

Thank you for posting this information. hf
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you don't need Budda if you truly know Christ.
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Your title indicates that you haven't achieved ANY level of serenity over another. Keep working...you've got quite a way to go yet.
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That's a bingo.
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I'm a Buddhist who follows Christ.

Thank you for posting this information. hf
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you don't need Budda if you truly know Christ.
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They are all teachers, Buddha, Jesus etc... Theres no right or wrong teacher.
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Buddhism can't save you, only the shed blood of Jesus, can do that, because you are still a sinner, like all of us and the wages of sin is death. I'm talking about the second death of the your Soul. For every man will die a fleshly death. There is only one way to the Father and that is through Jesus. Put your Faith in Him!
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I have the highest respect for buddhism. Is one of the few religions that the priests and sympathisers/followers do what they preach. I don´t necessarily agree with their tenets, but (albeit a very few cases) they put their money where their mouth is. hf
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If a man says, "I am more spiritual (or serene) than THAT man!" How can he be sure? What does he know of that man? Is it not his ego talking instead of him? How can one proclaim that his ego is smaller than the next man's? It is a self-defeating boast. The humble man that is not seen practicing spirituality is more likely to be the one with a higher level of serenity, because he has no desire or need to boast.

"If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him!" - Zen Master Linji

Why is that?

Because if you see an image of Buddha, you have formed a concept of perfection in your mind, and you have created another illusion for yourself. Is not Buddha dead? Did he raise from the grave? No, he is dead and gone. He is not coming back. He is not God, nor is he worthy of worship.

But there is One who defeated death; One who did come back from the grave, and with many witnesses that testified to this Truth. He is the One who wants us to follow Him. The One who will return again for His people. He is the way, the Truth, and the life, and no one will ever see the Creator without Him. He is Yeshua/Jesus, and He doesn't want us to follow the world's religions, but rather to simply have a relationship with Him.

Peace

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Buddhism can't save you, only the shed blood of Jesus, can do that, because you are still a sinner, like all of us and the wages of sin is death. I'm talking about the second death of the your Soul. For every man will die a fleshly death. There is only one way to the Father and that is through Jesus. Put your Faith in Him!
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Like the story of Solomon and the baby, you telling OP your way is the only way essentially cutting the baby in half. Every individual soul has to find their own way with whatever teacher fits. There is more than one way back to God, and remember the bible was written by man.
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Buddhism is a spiritual tradition that focuses on personal spiritual development and the attainment of a deep insight into the true nature of life.

Buddhism teaches that all life is interconnected, so compassion is natural and important.

Buddha was not a God.

He never claimed to be a God.

He never claimed to be a son of God.

He never claimed to be a mesasnger of God.

He was a man who achieved Nivana through human effort.

Buddha did not have an ego, unlike jesus and muhammad. His teachings were simple to help others on the path of enlightenment, not to sustain a state of power and importance.

Buddha, like Jesus and Mohammad are examples of what we are all capable of. If everyone achieved this state of consciousness we would all be basking in the divine ecstasy of existence at all times and each day would just be about creating beautiful things.

Buddhists believe that nothing is fixed or permanent - change is always possible
- unlike most religions which promote and endure violence due to not being able to accept the way society has changed because the books (bible, qu'ran) Have a firm set of rules which you must follow or you will be punished), ie, the way we dress, the way we eat, who can love who. the way we live in general.

Now we've all seen the protests and violence which came from a recent video depicting one mans opinion. Both sides of the argument are wrong and should not carry on what they are doing, as all they are bringing to the world are pain, death and fear. Nothing positive, which is what they think they are doing.

Why Buddhist could help save this entire world from self destruction:

Non-violence is at the heart of Buddhist thinking and behaviour. The first of the five precepts that all Buddhists should follow is "Avoid killing, or harming any living thing."

Buddhism is essentially a peaceful tradition. Nothing in Buddhist scripture gives any support to the use of violence as a way to resolve conflict.

''In times of war
Give rise in yourself to the mind of compassion,
Helping living beings
Abandon the will to fight.''

Figures like the Dalai Lama (who won the Nobel Peace Prize) demonstrate in word and deed Buddhism's commitment to peace.

"Hatred will not cease by hatred, but by love alone.
This is the ancient law."

And now a few quotes from Buddha

“Change is never painful; Only resistance to change is painful.”

''Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ''

''To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.''

''We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves. ''

''Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.''

''Health is the greatest gift, contentment the greatest wealth, faithfulness the best relationship.''

More quotes can be found here:- [link to www.brainyquote.com]

hf
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