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Ukraine: referendum to join the U.S. ?! wtf? (What do you think?) | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2687814  Ukraine10/07/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Ukraine, the former USSR republic, an initiative emerged to apply for membership in the United States of America as a new state! "In order to improve our life directly now, and in accordance with § 6 Article 106 of the Constitution of Ukraine, please use full powers of the President of Ukraine, which provided to You of the people of Ukraine and appoint a national referendum on the accession of Ukraine to the United States according Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union". - reads the official website petitioning for president of Ukraine. ( [link to www.change.org] ) Facebook page of the initiative ( [link to www.facebook.com] in short time has earned almost 3500 supporters. Initiative's website ( [link to pravonarodu.org] offers to join the movement and become a volunteer to gather 3 million signatures to initiate a nationwide referendum. If they manage to have those 3 million signatures - the president of Ukraine will be obliged by the law to announce the referendum. The idea has already made its way to TV programmes and major newspapers, receiving flaming outrage of pro-Russian supporters within Ukraine and in Russia. So, what do you think? Would you, citizens of the USA like to have Ukraine as your 51-st state?  |
wisc_natureboy  User ID: 25077506  United States10/07/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| endlosung User ID: 25134149 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25122211  Italy10/07/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10097155 United States10/07/2012 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2687814 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2687814 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25122211 join the most bankrupted country in the world... Don't the Ukraine people suffered enough poverty? I would had understand this naive idea in the 80's when people still believed to the american fake dream...but now well, we are MORE bankrupt than the US is now. we want to be as bankrupt as the US is now! :D |
| Anonymous Cowherder Stop the inanity! User ID: 2245483 United States10/07/2012 03:11 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they want Obamaphones. Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929! Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be. Restore the Republic. Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements! It's a flower, not something to be feared.  - Moo! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2687814 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not gonna go over well over there. Imagine the US having a land border with the East, but what the hell right. I'd support it from this end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Would make for a very interesting geopolitic. YES!! Look at this from this perspective: you would have a platzdarm, a forpost, outpost if you will, that provides access to the EU, to Russia, Turkey and Caucasus, and eventually to Middle East. You could make Ukranine your shining representation of American way of life as an example to all others around. Plus, access to markets, european, Russian (entire post-USSR actually) win-win |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25122211 Italy10/07/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25122211 join the most bankrupted country in the world... Don't the Ukraine people suffered enough poverty? I would had understand this naive idea in the 80's when people still believed to the american fake dream...but now well, we are MORE bankrupt than the US is now. we want to be as bankrupt as the US is now! :D :D no dude you cannot understand the magnitude of bankruptcy US reached...even giving their whole land and resources and selling their citizen organs to the black market they wont be able to close the gap the problem with states like Ukraine is that people never tasted high standards life so people is easy to be bought into believing things who are not real... look to those ex soviet countries who entered the free market and enjoyed loans and frill...the suicide rate skyrocketed |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2687814 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| endlosung User ID: 25134149 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | join the most bankrupted country in the world It is still better than the ballpark of 300 euros average monthly income before taxes. Basically the country's some mixed salad of white trash still in the process of working out their new post-Soviet identities. The whole talk of joining US is quite hypothetical in nature though, having a small number of supporters. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3405890 United States10/07/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Ukraine, the former USSR republic, an initiative emerged to apply for membership in the United States of America as a new state! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2687814 "In order to improve our life directly now, and in accordance with § 6 Article 106 of the Constitution of Ukraine, please use full powers of the President of Ukraine, which provided to You of the people of Ukraine and appoint a national referendum on the accession of Ukraine to the United States according Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union". - reads the official website petitioning for president of Ukraine. ( [link to www.change.org] ) Facebook page of the initiative ( [link to www.facebook.com] in short time has earned almost 3500 supporters. Initiative's website ( [link to pravonarodu.org] offers to join the movement and become a volunteer to gather 3 million signatures to initiate a nationwide referendum. If they manage to have those 3 million signatures - the president of Ukraine will be obliged by the law to announce the referendum. The idea has already made its way to TV programmes and major newspapers, receiving flaming outrage of pro-Russian supporters within Ukraine and in Russia. So, what do you think? Would you, citizens of the USA like to have Ukraine as your 51-st state? whats life like in the Ukraine? |
| Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States10/07/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25122211 join the most bankrupted country in the world... Don't the Ukraine people suffered enough poverty? I would had understand this naive idea in the 80's when people still believed to the american fake dream...but now well, we are MORE bankrupt than the US is now. we want to be as bankrupt as the US is now! :D :D no dude you cannot understand the magnitude of bankruptcy US reached...even giving their whole land and resources and selling their citizen organs to the black market they wont be able to close the gap the problem with states like Ukraine is that people never tasted high standards life so people is easy to be bought into believing things who are not real... look to those ex soviet countries who entered the free market and enjoyed loans and frill...the suicide rate skyrocketed And still, even at all this and at our worst, we are STILL so much better off than any of the EU states. Amazing, isn't it? Speaking of the Ukraine, I'd rather have them than any of the EUrotard states. I kind of like the idea myself. Not at all practical but a nice sentiment. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2687814 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25076262  Spain10/07/2012 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| endlosung User ID: 25134149 Ukraine10/07/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is still a sheer minority of people who work in their vegetable gardens. The major plus point about Ukraine is its extremely low costs of living. Monthly rent for the one room apartment in a city of 100-200.000 is 50-60 euros excluding the utilities. The minimum monthly wage is some 100 euros. |
| Joker Pole II User ID: 25109878  Poland10/07/2012 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Resister User ID: 1461638 United States10/07/2012 05:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense intended Ukraine, but a lot of us here would really like to get rid of a few states that have goten way to communist already. Not crazy about the idea of adding a former soviet state. I know Ukraine isn't a communist state now, but neither are Commifornia or New Yorkistan... technically. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20176142 United States10/07/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense intended Ukraine, but a lot of us here would really like to get rid of a few states that have goten way to communist already. Not crazy about the idea of adding a former soviet state. I know Ukraine isn't a communist state now, but neither are Commifornia or New Yorkistan... technically. Quoting: Resister hahaha Ukrainian guys, you can come over if this guy's state is kicked out. Probably alabama or texas. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25120802 United States10/07/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Ukraine, the former USSR republic, an initiative emerged to apply for membership in the United States of America as a new state! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2687814 "In order to improve our life directly now, and in accordance with § 6 Article 106 of the Constitution of Ukraine, please use full powers of the President of Ukraine, which provided to You of the people of Ukraine and appoint a national referendum on the accession of Ukraine to the United States according Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union". - reads the official website petitioning for president of Ukraine. ( [link to www.change.org] ) Facebook page of the initiative ( [link to www.facebook.com] in short time has earned almost 3500 supporters. Initiative's website ( [link to pravonarodu.org] offers to join the movement and become a volunteer to gather 3 million signatures to initiate a nationwide referendum. If they manage to have those 3 million signatures - the president of Ukraine will be obliged by the law to announce the referendum. The idea has already made its way to TV programmes and major newspapers, receiving flaming outrage of pro-Russian supporters within Ukraine and in Russia. So, what do you think? Would you, citizens of the USA like to have Ukraine as your 51-st state? Well fuck yes!!!! We will have to have low cost direct flights to Kiev immediately so I can go find my girlfriend. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25117069 United States10/07/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama did say he'd been to 57 states. Perhaps he slipped. It could be a trap. Add 10 more states to infiltrate the government. But that seems strange because we're already doing a good job of infiltrating the gub'mint. On the bright side, the Ukraine has some purdy ladies. I seen pictures and junk.  Jenny, Jenya and Indiana and - and -maybe I've said too much. If this is serious, why not? We've always been the country to take in the oppressed, the rich, those that want a better life. Why not take in a whole country? Might be kind of fun. And they look like us already. Easy to assimilate. Then all the people who are fed up with the USA and want to leave can go to the new states without a the hassle of getting a visa or a background check. |
| Quasar User ID: 24768342 United States10/07/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24964206  Portugal10/07/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no jobs. no money. shops full of goods. Few Chosen Families in Kiev living like kings. people tending their small private gardens, growing potatoes, living from paycheck to paycheck (if there is one). ... big fucking deal! the same is in Spain. and Portugal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25120802 United States10/07/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No offense intended Ukraine, but a lot of us here would really like to get rid of a few states that have goten way to communist already. Not crazy about the idea of adding a former soviet state. I know Ukraine isn't a communist state now, but neither are Commifornia or New Yorkistan... technically. Quoting: Resister We could trade Detroit, chicago, taxachutes, phoenix, new jersey AND we could send Obama for Ukraine. |
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| Billy_Sastard User ID: 25123406 United States10/07/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this part of that one 'collapsed ussr hoax' conspiracy? They want to join us to destroy us from the inside!!! ;P It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :( :abomb::abomb::abomb: BRING ON THE DOOM!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19870975 Ukraine10/08/2012 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this is serious, why not? We've always been the country to take in the oppressed, the rich, those that want a better life. Why not take in a whole country? Might be kind of fun. And they look like us already. Easy to assimilate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25117069 Then all the people who are fed up with the USA and want to leave can go to the new states without a the hassle of getting a visa or a background check. exactly. we all wear jeans, eat your food, drink your drinks, watch your movies, hell, use your money (most Ukrainians, me included, keep their savings in USD, cash), Ukrainians LOVE everything American probably even more than Americans themselves! America, or rather "America" is the symbol, an idol, an Ideal, a Promise for all of us (well, maybe not for all). Most Ukrainians want to become the same as you. Many people dream of winning a Green Card, and apply for it year after year. so, yes, easy to assimilate. with younger peeple one might say they are already assimilated. just formalize the existing situation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19870975 Ukraine10/08/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And, yes, those who want to move somewhere could easily do so. Most Ukrainians ( me included) would probably DONT want to move from Ukraine if we become a new state. Why move then, if USA comes to us? Travel - yes, but to live permanently - no. |
