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A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...

 
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A recent encounter of a freemans' contact with the police:

I was pulled over tonight by the police and i had my 14 month Daughter on board also. I got out and said hello and all the usual things. I switched my dictaphone on in front of him so that he clearly knew what i was doing. At this point, the officer was polite and asked if i had a license, and i said i do not have a license. He LOOKED AT ME with wide opened eyes in shock. He said i hope you do have a license as he smiled, Well i had spoke in a manner like it was the normal thing to here or say. I said well yes my person has a license but i don't. He said "your losing me", as he smiled.

I was then Immediately spoke to by a school leaver style officer, She was fun. So she asked for my NAME and i said "the name of the person is".....and she upt her voice and said "i don't want the persons name i want your name". This was cracking me up inside with laughter for now she was asking for my lawful name and all there statute's only applies ONLY to the LEGAL ENTITY the PERSON (all caps) so now she was asking for my lawful name as she had asked for, and as again, my lawful name has no joinder with there statute law.(this was why i was laughing inside) She said look mate you will be nicked if you don't give me your name. Well i said to her "the name your are requiring is ########### ######"
And she started to calm down.

(REMEMBER i was threatened of my freedom if i did not comply,and you CANNOT force someone into a contract if they do not lawfully consent to it nor can you enforce a a contract onto a PERSON if you the agent does not consent to it.)

So they said they said from the way i am acting and behaving it appeared to them as if i was concealing something and that my eyes were glazed. Well i did have a joint hours and hours before i went out.( Must have been good stuff.)

The male officer then looked at me and said he was going to do this under the new laws SOCPA or something like that.

I said i still dont consent to neither search of me or my car. He put his gloves on as he was having none of it. Immediately I pulled out a joint from my inside pocket. I said "this was given to me earlier it is a ".Marijuana joint." He said well im searching you for we have found drugs on you. I said "NO YOU HAVE NOT" found drugs on me for i supplemented you (as a gift) as you accepted it from me as i said i have nothing to hide. ....so there's no found about it. Well they did search me and my car and i made sure they repeated their numbers for the dictaphone. Now the only reason they pulled me over was because my car was 3 months out of TAX,(well that is my conclusion?) As he was searching me i said i did not consent to being searched and that if he looked on Dunn and Brad street the courts of justices are advertised as corporations and therefore this means contracts and they need consent.

So i said to the officer that i had a signed witnessed document in my file on the back seat by a Notarised Solicitor in Poole stating under article 61 i had in fact entered LAWFUL REBELLION! And that i am lawfully and legally bound by there instructions nor to comply with their orders and that if they also choose to not to respect this they as officers of the courts would be in-complicit with this act also so i must make you fully aware of this.

At this point another POLICE car pulled up with a lone male officer. The male officer briefed him on what had taken place. at this point my dictaphone cut off for i had used all the digital memory. The officer would not allow me to retrieve my dictaphone from the roof of the car to pre-record over another message. He was so relieved at the fact this went of. WELL Why would he not want me to record proceedings? I'M DOING HIM A HUGE FAVOUR! He then stopped me again and said "NO it's not nccessary, i've been fair with you and polite so i assure you this wont be needed and once we are happy we will let you be on your way. So i smiled and said "yes you have been polite and so forth ok lets move on"..

Well the school girl officer said is this registered to you? I said " it is registered to the PERSON". she never squabbled.

Well they then walked around waiting for a record check you know for the usual stuff like anything outstanding fines. Whilst this was going on the newly on the seen officer said to me "are you the bloke that is deeply into the MASONS? I said that depends on what you mean"....He said "well hold a deep knowledge of the MASONS? I said " something like that" as he said " i thought i knew your name from somewhere.

It came through as i over heard the officers radio as he had is had it switch to radio but the volume was really low. They then huddled together and muttered for a a few moments. By this time my Daughter was screaming with upset for i was not near the car in her view. Then one of the other male officers came over to me and said as i" imagine you wouldn't want to do all the paper work now and will want to get on what with your daughter screaming and the cold"

I said " of course". He then said he will give me a statement (search form) of the events of the search which will be at the police station for 12 months. At this point i said " 12 months i thought it was 14 days standard procedure? He said "NO listen to me" I will fill out what's happened tonight and the events and it will stay with the police station for 12 months ok. I said "erh ok...... meaning and....? please continue officer.

And he said ok again to me as i asked do you wish me to sign anything. He said "NO" your free to go!!!!!

As i left i explain very quickly about the truth of registering a child or a vehicle and that this was why the government have to pay child support for it is there property when point to fact EVERY CHILD ought be entitled to the benefit without having to sign anything. And the male officer was agreeing to what i had said regarding the truth of registering. I also said that this all can be found at Tpuc.org. And they looked at me and said "ok thanks in a calm voice as i went back to my untaxed car and made my Travelling journey.
PEOPLE do you realise if there is no signature then then is no contract. And NO CONTRACT = NO CASE Fact!!!!
All i can say is my approach was calm, with no malice and peaceful. I can only think that it must have been a case of where the officer had taken Notice of my previous statement of LAWFUL REBELLION

and that i had not consented at any time nor did i have any ID and i did tell the officers i was recording and gaining evidence. To which most of it was recorded.

And maybe as they was chatting they came to the conclusion that i was Knowledgeable????

And that maybe one of the officers Knew a thing or two about the truth of the deception "PERSON" and gave me the benefit of the doubt???

Or they just could not be doing with the paper work for they knew i was not going to make it easy for them as in the past i had sent NOTICE'S to the police in the past and never heard from them again regarding cutting them up and having no mot and below the limit tyres along with no invalid insurance for the mot was expired which was to the case. Yes mot had expired but it states in the EVENT of an accident should a party have no mot......... See! I had not had an accident! so i was insured.

So again i only imagine they must have record of this as a possibility to why they left it at that and let it go?

I will be sending Tpuc.org the recording of the incident up until it cut off to upload once i work out how to retrieve the messages to my computer. As for the record for those who leave reply message's-
(A) i have always smoked cannabis from time to time
(B) I have a excellent driving record overall.
(C) Had you seen clarkson and a guy did two driving tests one without cannabis the other with. And he had full points with a joint and a few points deducted when he had not had a joint!!!! Fact! But it had been Hours since i had travelled.. ( I wouldn't do that)
(D) If you study and research on how banks operate and government operate you will see what we are told as to where our money really goes and how much is really generated then you will learn the BIG SCAM!!! and see that i by not paying am doing no financial harm for i am decreasing the Debt and DVLA always create the liability but never send you the remedy such as a RET.
(REMITTANCE) commerce stuff.
(E) I LOVE MY SOIL and will defend it well against those whom wish to create conflict against my fellow Englishmen and Women and against Our fellow human cousins or brothers and sisters if you will by nature Blacks, Asians, religion and so forth that share our land in peace with us and CONTRIBUTE to our economy. (as many whites do not also)
And CANNOT allow mass Genocide and fund fake wars and support TRAITORS to this by feeding the machine MONEY that LEGALLY i am empowered from doing so (article 61) and have ethics unlike those in office.

That's all for now. and spread the word !!!!!!!! (Tpuc.org)
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
Long story short, op broke various laws and got caught. The story is quite hard to understand with your grasp of the english language though. (Not an insult, just an observation.)
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10/07/2012 08:26 PM
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
Long story short, op broke various laws and got caught. The story is quite hard to understand with your grasp of the english language though. (Not an insult, just an observation.)
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You are either a criminal calling yourself a government agent or you are just an incredibly stupid person.

"Broke various laws".

Can you please provide EVIDENCE as to what LAWS were broken? Or rather, NO LAWS at all were 'broken'. Only the legislation and statutes, which is VOLUNTARY and requires your CONSENT.

Say hi to your CIA boss for me, okay?
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10/07/2012 08:42 PM
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If you want to learn how to become a sovereign and no longer be under the control of the criminals calling themselves the government, read the free eBook "Living Free in a Fem Nazi World" here:

[link to mensbusinessassociation.com]
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10/07/2012 08:46 PM
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
Big congrats on making yourself (more of) a target to your local constabulary.

The way to change things is to DISENGAGE from the system of slavery we find ourselves in, the way to change things is to make it all irrelevant to your daily life. Go through the motions, make yourself out to be a good little citizen, but do what you want regardless. Embrace those parts of our "civilisation" which work for you and forcefully and completely reject those which don't. To do it any other way leads to a life of struggle and turmoil.

By engaging with "them" on their bullshit legalese level you signify your own subjugation and thereby consent to remaining a slave to their construct. Good luck with that - slaves in open rebellion never fare well.

You're no Spartacus OP, but you and the other so-called Freemen out there will no doubt serve your purpose as an example of how not to do it - and that's important.

Out.
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Big congrats on making yourself (more of) a target to your local constabulary.

The way to change things is to DISENGAGE from the system of slavery we find ourselves in, the way to change things is to make it all irrelevant to your daily life. Go through the motions, make yourself out to be a good little citizen, but do what you want regardless. Embrace those parts of our "civilisation" which work for you and forcefully and completely reject those which don't. To do it any other way leads to a life of struggle and turmoil.

By engaging with "them" on their bullshit legalese level you signify your own subjugation and thereby consent to remaining a slave to their construct. Good luck with that - slaves in open rebellion never fare well.

You're no Spartacus OP, but you and the other so-called Freemen out there will no doubt serve your purpose as an example of how not to do it - and that's important.

Out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


So you are a slave then and are perfectly happy being one. I hope you do not protest against the crimes of your government because you DO NOT DESERVE to protest or have a voice, since you have resolved yourself to be a slave.
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Big congrats on making yourself (more of) a target to your local constabulary.

The way to change things is to DISENGAGE from the system of slavery we find ourselves in, the way to change things is to make it all irrelevant to your daily life. Go through the motions, make yourself out to be a good little citizen, but do what you want regardless. Embrace those parts of our "civilisation" which work for you and forcefully and completely reject those which don't. To do it any other way leads to a life of struggle and turmoil.

By engaging with "them" on their bullshit legalese level you signify your own subjugation and thereby consent to remaining a slave to their construct. Good luck with that - slaves in open rebellion never fare well.

You're no Spartacus OP, but you and the other so-called Freemen out there will no doubt serve your purpose as an example of how not to do it - and that's important.

Out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


So you are a slave then and are perfectly happy being one. I hope you do not protest against the crimes of your government because you DO NOT DESERVE to protest or have a voice, since you have resolved yourself to be a slave.
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Hahahaha don't try and turn it back on me. You're the slave in open rebellion. Keep engaging with the system. I dare you, no I double-dare you motherfucker. While I'm daring you... show me one concrete example of one of your "freemen" who's free to do their thing unencumbered by the slavery they find themselves subjected to.

Folks live your life, follow your dreams while following your conscience. Buying into this freeman/sovereign bullshit is not the answer. It's a pipe dream. Common Law and the Magna Carta won't save you from an oppressive system of exploitation. The game has been rigged so that you will lose. Opt out of the game to the extent that you can. That is the path to freedom.
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Long story short, op broke various laws and got caught. The story is quite hard to understand with your grasp of the english language though. (Not an insult, just an observation.)
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Timothy McVeigh
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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OP seemed to do OK, he was free to go and continue traveling, even though pot was present in the area.
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OP seemed to do OK, he was free to go and continue traveling, even though pot was present in the area.
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The OP, like many "freemen" before him has most likely made shit up. This assumption is supported by the OP's paranoid assurances about the whole of the alleged exchange with the po-lice not being recorded.

He's expected to be called out on it and conveniently the last part of the conversation with the pigs apparently wasn't recorded.

Take his word for it?

LOL
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things are getting complicated.

people are getting battered out here.

ok, many are saying it is not so bad.



what is the point of resisting? How can you not?


Confusion, uncertainty. Cognitive Dissonance and active rebellion.

Awesome, thanks Op.
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[link to www.tpuc.org]

A recent encounter of a freemans' contact with the police:

I was pulled over tonight by the police and i had my 14 month Daughter on board also. I got out and said hello and all the usual things. I switched my dictaphone on in front of him so that he clearly knew what i was doing. At this point, the officer was polite and asked if i had a license, and i said i do not have a license. He LOOKED AT ME with wide opened eyes in shock. He said i hope you do have a license as he smiled, Well i had spoke in a manner like it was the normal thing to here or say. I said well yes my person has a license but i don't. He said "your losing me", as he smiled.

I was then Immediately spoke to by a school leaver style officer, She was fun. So she asked for my NAME and i said "the name of the person is".....and she upt her voice and said "i don't want the persons name i want your name". This was cracking me up inside with laughter for now she was asking for my lawful name and all there statute's only applies ONLY to the LEGAL ENTITY the PERSON (all caps) so now she was asking for my lawful name as she had asked for, and as again, my lawful name has no joinder with there statute law.(this was why i was laughing inside) She said look mate you will be nicked if you don't give me your name. Well i said to her "the name your are requiring is ########### ######"
And she started to calm down.

(REMEMBER i was threatened of my freedom if i did not comply,and you CANNOT force someone into a contract if they do not lawfully consent to it nor can you enforce a a contract onto a PERSON if you the agent does not consent to it.)

So they said they said from the way i am acting and behaving it appeared to them as if i was concealing something and that my eyes were glazed. Well i did have a joint hours and hours before i went out.( Must have been good stuff.)

The male officer then looked at me and said he was going to do this under the new laws SOCPA or something like that.

I said i still dont consent to neither search of me or my car. He put his gloves on as he was having none of it. Immediately I pulled out a joint from my inside pocket. I said "this was given to me earlier it is a ".Marijuana joint." He said well im searching you for we have found drugs on you. I said "NO YOU HAVE NOT" found drugs on me for i supplemented you (as a gift) as you accepted it from me as i said i have nothing to hide. ....so there's no found about it. Well they did search me and my car and i made sure they repeated their numbers for the dictaphone. Now the only reason they pulled me over was because my car was 3 months out of TAX,(well that is my conclusion?) As he was searching me i said i did not consent to being searched and that if he looked on Dunn and Brad street the courts of justices are advertised as corporations and therefore this means contracts and they need consent.

So i said to the officer that i had a signed witnessed document in my file on the back seat by a Notarised Solicitor in Poole stating under article 61 i had in fact entered LAWFUL REBELLION! And that i am lawfully and legally bound by there instructions nor to comply with their orders and that if they also choose to not to respect this they as officers of the courts would be in-complicit with this act also so i must make you fully aware of this.

At this point another POLICE car pulled up with a lone male officer. The male officer briefed him on what had taken place. at this point my dictaphone cut off for i had used all the digital memory. The officer would not allow me to retrieve my dictaphone from the roof of the car to pre-record over another message. He was so relieved at the fact this went of. WELL Why would he not want me to record proceedings? I'M DOING HIM A HUGE FAVOUR! He then stopped me again and said "NO it's not nccessary, i've been fair with you and polite so i assure you this wont be needed and once we are happy we will let you be on your way. So i smiled and said "yes you have been polite and so forth ok lets move on"..

Well the school girl officer said is this registered to you? I said " it is registered to the PERSON". she never squabbled.

Well they then walked around waiting for a record check you know for the usual stuff like anything outstanding fines. Whilst this was going on the newly on the seen officer said to me "are you the bloke that is deeply into the MASONS? I said that depends on what you mean"....He said "well hold a deep knowledge of the MASONS? I said " something like that" as he said " i thought i knew your name from somewhere.

It came through as i over heard the officers radio as he had is had it switch to radio but the volume was really low. They then huddled together and muttered for a a few moments. By this time my Daughter was screaming with upset for i was not near the car in her view. Then one of the other male officers came over to me and said as i" imagine you wouldn't want to do all the paper work now and will want to get on what with your daughter screaming and the cold"

I said " of course". He then said he will give me a statement (search form) of the events of the search which will be at the police station for 12 months. At this point i said " 12 months i thought it was 14 days standard procedure? He said "NO listen to me" I will fill out what's happened tonight and the events and it will stay with the police station for 12 months ok. I said "erh ok...... meaning and....? please continue officer.

And he said ok again to me as i asked do you wish me to sign anything. He said "NO" your free to go!!!!!

As i left i explain very quickly about the truth of registering a child or a vehicle and that this was why the government have to pay child support for it is there property when point to fact EVERY CHILD ought be entitled to the benefit without having to sign anything. And the male officer was agreeing to what i had said regarding the truth of registering. I also said that this all can be found at Tpuc.org. And they looked at me and said "ok thanks in a calm voice as i went back to my untaxed car and made my Travelling journey.
PEOPLE do you realise if there is no signature then then is no contract. And NO CONTRACT = NO CASE Fact!!!!
All i can say is my approach was calm, with no malice and peaceful. I can only think that it must have been a case of where the officer had taken Notice of my previous statement of LAWFUL REBELLION

and that i had not consented at any time nor did i have any ID and i did tell the officers i was recording and gaining evidence. To which most of it was recorded.

And maybe as they was chatting they came to the conclusion that i was Knowledgeable????

And that maybe one of the officers Knew a thing or two about the truth of the deception "PERSON" and gave me the benefit of the doubt???

Or they just could not be doing with the paper work for they knew i was not going to make it easy for them as in the past i had sent NOTICE'S to the police in the past and never heard from them again regarding cutting them up and having no mot and below the limit tyres along with no invalid insurance for the mot was expired which was to the case. Yes mot had expired but it states in the EVENT of an accident should a party have no mot......... See! I had not had an accident! so i was insured.

So again i only imagine they must have record of this as a possibility to why they left it at that and let it go?

I will be sending Tpuc.org the recording of the incident up until it cut off to upload once i work out how to retrieve the messages to my computer. As for the record for those who leave reply message's-
(A) i have always smoked cannabis from time to time
(B) I have a excellent driving record overall.
(C) Had you seen clarkson and a guy did two driving tests one without cannabis the other with. And he had full points with a joint and a few points deducted when he had not had a joint!!!! Fact! But it had been Hours since i had travelled.. ( I wouldn't do that)
(D) If you study and research on how banks operate and government operate you will see what we are told as to where our money really goes and how much is really generated then you will learn the BIG SCAM!!! and see that i by not paying am doing no financial harm for i am decreasing the Debt and DVLA always create the liability but never send you the remedy such as a RET.
(REMITTANCE) commerce stuff.
(E) I LOVE MY SOIL and will defend it well against those whom wish to create conflict against my fellow Englishmen and Women and against Our fellow human cousins or brothers and sisters if you will by nature Blacks, Asians, religion and so forth that share our land in peace with us and CONTRIBUTE to our economy. (as many whites do not also)
And CANNOT allow mass Genocide and fund fake wars and support TRAITORS to this by feeding the machine MONEY that LEGALLY i am empowered from doing so (article 61) and have ethics unlike those in office.

That's all for now. and spread the word !!!!!!!! (Tpuc.org)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25119381


While a lot of this is true in theory, unfortunately I do not believe it is effective as a declaratory defense against police officers.

Therefore I do not believe it actually happened.

Therefore I think you made it up, for people to try and get busted, and then entered into a database of people declaring themselves in rebellion against the state.

Pretty nasty piece of work, that you are.

Oh, P.S. - There is no liability for any police officer to arrest you at any time. Legally, an arrest can be for probable cause and the officer can be found in error on points of law later, with no liability whatsoever to the officer.

The ONLY thing that was the truth in this little story of yours is when you invoked the Masons - and you did it deliberately wrong, while citing the process to indemnify yourself. Most officers are Masons, and they're all taught very specific masonic communications procedures to let someone go - NOT the casual crap you described. That alone would win release, not any of the other stuff, even the parts of it that are true. Why? Because the police are empowered to presume you are wrong, and be reversed later. They are NOT going to have a discussion with you on the finer points of declaratory contract consent to administrative law in the dark on the side of the road, while holding a joint you gave them - LOL!
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To all of the cowards on here who refuse to take a stand against their criminal governments? You are a COWARD and you DESERVE your slavery.
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To all of the cowards on here who refuse to take a stand against their criminal governments? You are a COWARD and you DESERVE your slavery.
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Hahahahaha

Another thing I've discovered about these "freeman" dickheads is they can't take any sort of criticism of their timewasting doomed-to-failure activities.

You can't escape slavery by invoking the very laws which allowed "them" to enslave you in the first place.

It ain't rocket science Einstein. You'll realise it soon enough and if not you can stay on your hamster wheel for eternity as far as I'm concerned.
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To all of the cowards on here who refuse to take a stand against their criminal governments? You are a COWARD and you DESERVE your slavery.
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Hahahahaha

Another thing I've discovered about these "freeman" dickheads is they can't take any sort of criticism of their timewasting doomed-to-failure activities.

You can't escape slavery by invoking the very laws which allowed "them" to enslave you in the first place.

It ain't rocket science Einstein. You'll realise it soon enough and if not you can stay on your hamster wheel for eternity as far as I'm concerned.
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No, we cannot tolerate idiotic replies like the one you have just posted.

Just run along now and be a happy little slave. You will never even have a chance at freedom, you pathetic coward.
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When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
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When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
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Me too!
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When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
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You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
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When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
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You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
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What hard evidence do you have that this stuff works?

You're obviously fanatical about it so convert us.
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Big congrats on making yourself (more of) a target to your local constabulary.

The way to change things is to DISENGAGE from the system of slavery we find ourselves in, the way to change things is to make it all irrelevant to your daily life. Go through the motions, make yourself out to be a good little citizen, but do what you want regardless. Embrace those parts of our "civilisation" which work for you and forcefully and completely reject those which don't. To do it any other way leads to a life of struggle and turmoil.

By engaging with "them" on their bullshit legalese level you signify your own subjugation and thereby consent to remaining a slave to their construct. Good luck with that - slaves in open rebellion never fare well.

You're no Spartacus OP, but you and the other so-called Freemen out there will no doubt serve your purpose as an example of how not to do it - and that's important.

Out.
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Not true you must take offensive at some point this tactic has been preached for 2000 years and does not work

You must take it to them .. thats the trick of this life ...

Can't just hold hands kum-ba-yaa when the lord wants you to take action
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To bring a bit of balance to the debate, and for your entertainment, here's a thread by an anti-freeman fanatic from last month...

Thread: EPIC LEGAL SMACKDOWN: Court debunks soverign citizen/freeman on the land/detax stupidity

Fanatics on both sides of this issue can be fun to watch and we all love it when the emotionally unhinged begin to hyperventilate :)
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
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What hard evidence do you have that this stuff works?

You're obviously fanatical about it so convert us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


A man has unlimited right to contract

Otherwise your a slave ...

How hard is that to understand ?



The deparmtnet of commerce holds a legal name , you write legal name ... you ARE BOUND BY COMMERCE

simple
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To bring a bit of balance to the debate, and for your entertainment, here's a thread by an anti-freeman fanatic from last month...

Thread: EPIC LEGAL SMACKDOWN: Court debunks soverign citizen/freeman on the land/detax stupidity

Fanatics on both sides of this issue can be fun to watch and we all love it when the emotionally unhinged begin to hyperventilate :)
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ok Attorney

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10/08/2012 08:24 AM
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
When cops try to arrest you, try to bore them out of their skulls with legal mumbo jumbo, so they release you in self defense.

Is what I got out of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25176286


What hard evidence do you have that this stuff works?

You're obviously fanatical about it so convert us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


A man has unlimited right to contract

Otherwise your a slave ...

How hard is that to understand ?



The deparmtnet of commerce holds a legal name , you write legal name ... you ARE BOUND BY COMMERCE

simple
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Show me the docs. Your typed out gibberish means shit without hard documentation to back it up.

And... it's "you're", as "you are a slave", not "your". If you can't get basic grammar right, you have no hope with complex legalese.
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You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25176286


What hard evidence do you have that this stuff works?

You're obviously fanatical about it so convert us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


A man has unlimited right to contract

Otherwise your a slave ...

How hard is that to understand ?



The deparmtnet of commerce holds a legal name , you write legal name ... you ARE BOUND BY COMMERCE

simple
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Show me the docs. Your typed out gibberish means shit without hard documentation to back it up.

And... it's "you're", as "you are a slave", not "your". If you can't get basic grammar right, you have no hope with complex legalese.
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you fish are easy to catch ....
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You don't understand. If you DO NOT CONSENT, they have no lawful authority over you. And thus even if they arrest you, they cannot charge you with shit. All they can do is hold you for a few hours.

In short, DO NOT EVEN GIVE THEM YOUR NAME, because by doing so, you are legally consenting to their jurisdiction over you.

Read the Living Free in a Fem Nazi World book and you'll understand all this stuff, dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25176286


What hard evidence do you have that this stuff works?

You're obviously fanatical about it so convert us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


A man has unlimited right to contract

Otherwise your a slave ...

How hard is that to understand ?



The deparmtnet of commerce holds a legal name , you write legal name ... you ARE BOUND BY COMMERCE

simple
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23880197


Show me the docs. Your typed out gibberish means shit without hard documentation to back it up.

And... it's "you're", as "you are a slave", not "your". If you can't get basic grammar right, you have no hope with complex legalese.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24996072


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10/08/2012 08:26 AM
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what is sad is your paid the king of ill literature ..
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Cauz Weee Mishspehl Uhl Ur Lighttle Gamez
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Re: A freeman in Lawful Rebellion under article 61 of the Magna Carta is stopped by the police...
Hahahaha

You guys are big on paranoia and insults but light on evidence.

If all this freeman shit is based on law, then quote the letter of said laws.

I'm starting to get the feeling you're just taking someone else's word for it and then expecting the rest of us to do the same. Kind of sheepish if you ask me, and not at all the behaviour of a so-called sovereign...
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Long story short, op broke various laws and got caught. The story is quite hard to understand with your grasp of the english language though. (Not an insult, just an observation.)
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putin you might want to carry a drivers license while driving m'key ? stop that bs we don't need martyrs.

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