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Oct 12 2012TC (?) 0.2 LD

 
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Who gives a fuck. How big is it?
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It's a little one. 15m. So a 2.5 megaton bomb give or take if a 40m is a 5 mefaton bomb. (Told you guys I wouldn't forget a word you said. :) )
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Very good OP, nice to see you back tonight. I feel we did such good job last night I feel confident we are OK with this one too. No explosions in the sky this morning. I still don't know how to tell where they are coming from but I'm wondering if they are connected with the Draconid meteor shower happening tonight. Last year it was up to 600 sightings an hour, whereas most years its like 10 an hour. It can't be predicted how it will turn out. These two NEO's might be pieces of the original larger asteroid as cited on spaceweather.com page today.

So far its looking kind of wimpy. This is a fun site

[link to www.meteorscan.com]

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Is this a tomato plant event ?
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If it ain't o.1 I am not interested...lol
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psssst.... 0.0006 is closer than 0.1 just so you know..
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Who gives a fuck. How big is it?
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It's a little one. 15m. So a 2.5 megaton bomb give or take if a 40m is a 5 mefaton bomb. (Told you guys I wouldn't forget a word you said. :) )
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Very good OP, nice to see you back tonight. I feel we did such good job last night I feel confident we are OK with this one too. No explosions in the sky this morning. I still don't know how to tell where they are coming from but I'm wondering if they are connected with the Draconid meteor shower happening tonight. Last year it was up to 600 sightings an hour, whereas most years its like 10 an hour. It can't be predicted how it will turn out. These two NEO's might be pieces of the original larger asteroid as cited on spaceweather.com page today.
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Hey, Isis. :) Yeah, no doom...and hopefully the asteroids stay further away. When I pull my laptop out, I'll see if I can trace it backwards. I'll also see if there's a planetarium close and see if I can see in that general direction if I'm able to follow it backwards. Be cool to know at least.
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I bet it is picking up quite the electrostatic charge from hurdling through space. Could that possibly attract it to the Earth's magnetosphere if it is that close indeed? It's orbit trajectory could change rapidly if it was a conductive material and an opposite charge as the Earth.
Just a thought...
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Someone said it could in a thread from last night but there were a lot of factors involved. So this close and the magnetosphere may be weakened with a couple spots rotating that are C class CME producers...could be interesting. I'd still like to know how to trace these backwards.
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Is there any way of zeroing in on the sunspots, calculating magnetic re-connection placement per hour on the Earth, so that you knew which holes related to which spot on Earth? Not even sure how to phrase that...sorry.
From what I understand, the flares supercharge our magnetosphere and help strengthen our field. Unless the object was attracted to it instead, due to having an opposite charge?
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If it ain't o.1 I am not interested...lol
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psssst.... 0.0006 is closer than 0.1 just so you know..
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The 0.1 is LD which is technically closer than the .0006 AU. :)
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I bet it is picking up quite the electrostatic charge from hurdling through space. Could that possibly attract it to the Earth's magnetosphere if it is that close indeed? It's orbit trajectory could change rapidly if it was a conductive material and an opposite charge as the Earth.
Just a thought...
 Quoting: Back From the Future 25086117


Someone said it could in a thread from last night but there were a lot of factors involved. So this close and the magnetosphere may be weakened with a couple spots rotating that are C class CME producers...could be interesting. I'd still like to know how to trace these backwards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24613830

Is there any way of zeroing in on the sunspots, calculating magnetic re-connection placement per hour on the Earth, so that you knew which holes related to which spot on Earth? Not even sure how to phrase that...sorry.
From what I understand, the flares supercharge our magnetosphere and help strengthen our field. Unless the object was attracted to it instead, due to having an opposite charge?
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Like the connections the science guys found? Wormholes from sun to earth or something? Or the blanket cloud measured by KP index?
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I bet it is picking up quite the electrostatic charge from hurdling through space. Could that possibly attract it to the Earth's magnetosphere if it is that close indeed? It's orbit trajectory could change rapidly if it was a conductive material and an opposite charge as the Earth.
Just a thought...
 Quoting: Back From the Future 25086117


Someone said it could in a thread from last night but there were a lot of factors involved. So this close and the magnetosphere may be weakened with a couple spots rotating that are C class CME producers...could be interesting. I'd still like to know how to trace these backwards.
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Is there any way of zeroing in on the sunspots, calculating magnetic re-connection placement per hour on the Earth, so that you knew which holes related to which spot on Earth? Not even sure how to phrase that...sorry.
From what I understand, the flares supercharge our magnetosphere and help strengthen our field. Unless the object was attracted to it instead, due to having an opposite charge?
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This might answer a little, 2 min news guy, Suspicious 0bserver gives info each day on how earth's footpoint (not footprint) connects with the magnetic field lines from the sun.


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Like the magnetic flux wormholes connected to the Sun, exactly. Every 8 minutes an exchange happens.
Maybe you could relate this absorption map to the sunspots and where the exchange point is? Could help you trace which spot related to what place on Earth?
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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ok.. JPL says the closest will be 6.0e-4.. or roughly 0.0006 AU... 89,758.7224 kilometers.. still a good ways off..
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The link I posted in the first up there is from jpl. It's say 46 or 47 000 miles.
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Got a link for ya OP On 2012tv and 2012tc4...
[link to astrobob.areavoices.com]

Another recent find, asteroid 2012 TC4, will come even closer on the night of Oct. 11-12. At 11:57 p.m. (CDT) Oct. 11, the speedy visitor will book across the sky 59,000 miles from Earth’s surface. Because of its small size – about 45 to 90 feet across – it will appear as a very faint, fast-moving star in large amateur telescopes at that time. Earlier that evening, the viewing angle will be better and 2012 TC4 will shine brighter at magnitude 13.6. This will make it a decent catch in an scopes 8-inches. I’ll have more details on how to see soon.
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I hope TRIN is reading this thread and maybe can get some good shots of it on his telescope. AND POST THEM HERE ON GLP!!!!!!! (hint!)
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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ok.. JPL says the closest will be 6.0e-4.. or roughly 0.0006 AU... 89,758.7224 kilometers.. still a good ways off..
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The link I posted in the first up there is from jpl. It's say 46 or 47 000 miles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24613830


Got a link for ya OP On 2012tv and 2012tc4...
[link to astrobob.areavoices.com]

Another recent find, asteroid 2012 TC4, will come even closer on the night of Oct. 11-12. At 11:57 p.m. (CDT) Oct. 11, the speedy visitor will book across the sky 59,000 miles from Earth’s surface. Because of its small size – about 45 to 90 feet across – it will appear as a very faint, fast-moving star in large amateur telescopes at that time. Earlier that evening, the viewing angle will be better and 2012 TC4 will shine brighter at magnitude 13.6. This will make it a decent catch in an scopes 8-inches. I’ll have more details on how to see soon.
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I hope TRIN is reading this thread and maybe can get some good shots of it on his telescope. AND POST THEM HERE ON GLP!!!!!!! (hint!)
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Thank you very much. I know DirecTv has a sat about 36000-ish miles out. So I guess we just wait and see on this one as well. Thanks again, Catscratch.
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LOL they do NOT have a satellite 36,000 miles out. Commercial satellites are not allowed or are able to transmit beyond the space station. They are well BELOW the ISS orbit.
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That's definitely interesting, Isis, how the sun is connected like that. So if the sun shoots off a high powered CME or solar wind in the next couple of days it could affect TC and earth and depending on the particle charges of both could force TC this way. Just a guess if the sun has so much influence.

Back From The Future, heh, any idea how long it took me to figure out this stuff? I'm sure I could but I have a friend who's much better than I am. I'll see if he can make a model. If nothing else it could help in the future. Hm. Just thinking out loud but with all of this info in the last few days, I bet we could all give input and get a better answer than a 7. :) maybe
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Sorry for the double-post. My 'puter froze and I pushed "post" again after nothing happened for a long time. So THEN, of course, it posted twice. Ain't technology GRAND??!!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Thank you very much. I know DirecTv has a sat about 36000-ish miles out. So I guess we just wait and see on this one as well. Thanks again, Catscratch.
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LOL they do NOT have a satellite 36,000 miles out. Commercial satellites are not allowed or are able to transmit beyond the space station. They are well BELOW the ISS orbit.
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[link to www.spacetoday.org]
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I bet it is picking up quite the electrostatic charge from hurdling through space. Could that possibly attract it to the Earth's magnetosphere if it is that close indeed? It's orbit trajectory could change rapidly if it was a conductive material and an opposite charge as the Earth.
Just a thought...
 Quoting: Back From the Future 25086117


Someone said it could in a thread from last night but there were a lot of factors involved. So this close and the magnetosphere may be weakened with a couple spots rotating that are C class CME producers...could be interesting. I'd still like to know how to trace these backwards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24613830

Is there any way of zeroing in on the sunspots, calculating magnetic re-connection placement per hour on the Earth, so that you knew which holes related to which spot on Earth? Not even sure how to phrase that...sorry.
From what I understand, the flares supercharge our magnetosphere and help strengthen our field. Unless the object was attracted to it instead, due to having an opposite charge?
 Quoting: Back From the Future 25086117


This might answer a little, 2 min news guy, Suspicious 0bserver gives info each day on how earth's footpoint (not footprint) connects with the magnetic field lines from the sun.


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Wow, nice video! Thanks for the insight Isis One!
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That's definitely interesting, Isis, how the sun is connected like that. So if the sun shoots off a high powered CME or solar wind in the next couple of days it could affect TC and earth and depending on the particle charges of both could force TC this way. Just a guess if the sun has so much influence.

Back From The Future, heh, any idea how long it took me to figure out this stuff? I'm sure I could but I have a friend who's much better than I am. I'll see if he can make a model. If nothing else it could help in the future. Hm. Just thinking out loud but with all of this info in the last few days, I bet we could all give input and get a better answer than a 7. :) maybe
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I would love to see a current map of the magnetic re-connection. Do they have such a thing? Or is that what the Aurora map is already? [link to helios.swpc.noaa.gov]
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That's definitely interesting, Isis, how the sun is connected like that. So if the sun shoots off a high powered CME or solar wind in the next couple of days it could affect TC and earth and depending on the particle charges of both could force TC this way. Just a guess if the sun has so much influence.

Back From The Future, heh, any idea how long it took me to figure out this stuff? I'm sure I could but I have a friend who's much better than I am. I'll see if he can make a model. If nothing else it could help in the future. Hm. Just thinking out loud but with all of this info in the last few days, I bet we could all give input and get a better answer than a 7. :) maybe
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I would love to see a current map of the magnetic re-connection. Do they have such a thing? Or is that what the Aurora map is already? [link to helios.swpc.noaa.gov]
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That's definitely interesting, Isis, how the sun is connected like that. So if the sun shoots off a high powered CME or solar wind in the next couple of days it could affect TC and earth and depending on the particle charges of both could force TC this way. Just a guess if the sun has so much influence.

Back From The Future, heh, any idea how long it took me to figure out this stuff? I'm sure I could but I have a friend who's much better than I am. I'll see if he can make a model. If nothing else it could help in the future. Hm. Just thinking out loud but with all of this info in the last few days, I bet we could all give input and get a better answer than a 7. :) maybe
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This simulation is interesting too. You can see the magnetic field lines and how they can 'whip' magnetism earth's way.

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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BFTF, the KP shows solar wind connecting with magnetosphere...sort of. The flux holes haven't been able to be mapped yet.

Isis, that link shows how it's whipped to and around or?
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That's definitely interesting, Isis, how the sun is connected like that. So if the sun shoots off a high powered CME or solar wind in the next couple of days it could affect TC and earth and depending on the particle charges of both could force TC this way. Just a guess if the sun has so much influence.

Back From The Future, heh, any idea how long it took me to figure out this stuff? I'm sure I could but I have a friend who's much better than I am. I'll see if he can make a model. If nothing else it could help in the future. Hm. Just thinking out loud but with all of this info in the last few days, I bet we could all give input and get a better answer than a 7. :) maybe
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This simulation is interesting too. You can see the magnetic field lines and how they can 'whip' magnetism earth's way.

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Isis One

Isis One....could a magnetic flare push an asteroid into us if timed right? I know when things get too close, an attraction happens. Can the attraction be magnified by a passing flare hitting us simultaneously as the meteor passes by? Altering its course?
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[link to solarimg.org]

OP.....Look at the 3rd image down on the right, compare it to the last image down on the right.
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Some on glp has seen this [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] right? There's a HUGE list of these!

Looking now, Back From the Future.
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Back from the future, my phone just lines things up. :/
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Back from the future, my phone just lines things up. :/
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I'm on a 52" 3D Plasma screen! Try this...

[link to www.gdgps.net]

[link to solen.info]
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I'll have to look again when I'm not so tired. My apologies but I need to get some sleep. I'll look at the thread tomorrow evening on my laptop. I'd like to see the images more clearly.
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Hmmm... Timings impeccable. Draconids are also in play too.
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Who gives a fuck. How big is it?
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It's a little one. 15m. So a 2.5 megaton bomb give or take if a 40m is a 5 mefaton bomb. (Told you guys I wouldn't forget a word you said. :) )
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Also, what it is made of is of grate importance
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