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Evolution and God should NOT be separate ideas

 
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Evolution and God should NOT be separate ideas
For in fact it was God that programmed into every living thing on Earth the capability to adapt and change.


If you and another person were alive in a forest that you did not know at all and you saw the person you were with eat a fruit that killed them then you would not eat that same fruit. You would go to another tree and the odds go up at least by one that you will live. That is a very basic way to see evolution. That is what God has programmed into all of us. God has put that in every single living thing on Earth. From virus and bacteria to blue whale and every living thing in between.


This is the main reason why all global societies rise and then ultimately fall. Because they become too vague about their existence and too vague about their beliefs on progress and getting ahead. They dont quite know what they are doing. So they wind up taking too much and building without respect to the natural world in which the rest of life just wants food, shelter and water to live. They have a very strong foundation.

A modern global society is too aggressive and too careless in it's hot pursuit of it knows not what. So they miss the small things and that is where the little animals adapt. In the small things. The things we miss in our way to progressville.

I mean you got people out there with a ton of money and fast cars but they are clueless about life and just run around and drive around like chickens without a head. Surely one can see the spiral down effect in a non life giving way of that life.

Why couldnt have God created two microbes and nothing else that could adapt and change to a harsh environment and ultimately over long periods of time create the world that we know. I find that possibility very likely and it explains a lot about how certain species can adapt extremely well to harsh environments. It all makes sense like that. So God being a giant man who was somewhat a natural chemist like a wizard sort of makes perfect sense. Maybe that is where the description of God was born. The classic idea of the profound thinking scientist.
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If that was the case then your God wouldnt be God. He is supposed to know everything and see the future so nothing would have to adapt and change. His creation wouldnt have been perfect.
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If that was the case then your God wouldnt be God. He is supposed to know everything and see the future so nothing would have to adapt and change. His creation wouldnt have been perfect.
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He knows the basics and fundamentals of life and that is how he predicts the future. It is as simple as a basic equation.

Add this plus that and take away that and add this and minus that and you have that. Same formula all the time. Basics of life.


the problem with todays scientist is they forget that the basic science of life (Earth sciences especially) are so true and easy to understand that even a not too well educated person can understand them. They get clouded by their own egos and their own fear about what basic data is telling them. So they stop being scientist at that point and start being yes-men. Just believing and saying what they and others want to hear. BUT on the other hand there are still some good scientist left who know the basics of Earth sciences and can be honest with them.


HONEST data from machine scientist put in place to give readings about how the Earth works MUST be available to all people because we are programmed deep inside to know basic science about life. All of us all. All we need is the honest data and have it not watered down or even kept from us entirely.
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If that was the case then your God wouldnt be God. He is supposed to know everything and see the future so nothing would have to adapt and change. His creation wouldnt have been perfect.
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And if it is true that God test then it is all about the adaptation and change that God is looking for. Hence the Jobe story. God was testing his adaptation skills. Making sure one of his finest works could make it. Otherwise why test him at all ?
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Why would God create intelligence in all living things ? Why would God create people that can change color in different environmental areas ? Why would God create microbes that can change and get past anti-biotics ? Why would God create fish that can breathe on land and in water ? Why would God show us so many signs of adaptation ?

Why are cockroaches and mice and other lower life forms so resistant to so many forms of poison ? Why does man always have to keep pace with the changes in nature ? Why does not everything remain stagnant ? Because God put into all life the capability to adapt and to change. Evolution is as much as God's creation as anything else.

I see absolutely no problem at all in believing in God and evolution at the same time. For me they go hand in hand.
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Why cant the whole Earth be alive and why couldnt have God created it like that ? I dont believe God would create things that did not work in harmony and were not dependent on the other in some way. God would create a perfect working machine (in this case a biological one) where all parts were necessary and interconnected. God does not create that which is not needed.

For nothing is as strong a foundation as the basic way to live. It is impossible to get around because God created that fundamental in all life. To live by the basics. And to adapt in order to get them if they become scarce. This is how the bounty of life is kept. This is how deserts can become gardens. When conditions for life are ripe that is what happens because that is what God programmed into all life. Just the basics. Only the basics. For the basics are ultimately is all that is needed. It is human vague ideas of progress that threaten us. We argue over what they are all the while life is adapting to our incorrect ways of living (non basic).

This is how the end times was predicted long ago. By a simple understanding of how life works in it's most basic form.
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Ironically and beautifully the idea of God and evolution going hand in hand is part of the evolving process of humans.


Just that one part in all life. Change and adapt to live. God put that in us and ever other living thing. Why ? Because he wanted to show us evolution ? Or simply he hoped we would learn and be able to live here. Instead of living by division we must learn to live by understanding how all the parts of life work in unison (yes even the "bad" ones) to give us the world we live in. For good or ill it is true.

Maybe God just created the machinery of life then sat back and watched it grow. Like we would watch a plant grow if we had the patience ( i would assume God has great patience) Of course i would guess God's understanding of time is a bit different than ours.

Maybe God is hoping we can get past the growing up process at a crucial moment in our growth to live and find God like never before.
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Why did God put the ability to change in adapt in every living thing on Earth ?

If you don't believe in evolution then you have to explain that.
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Why did God put the ability to change in adapt in every living thing on Earth ?

If you don't believe in evolution then you have to explain that.
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Change AND adapt that should read.
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Adaptation and variation within a species is not evolution!

True, God created all animals with the ability to adapt and the capacity for variation; however, this is in no way, shape, or form evolution. Evolution is the false assertion that one species can transform into another species over time, through genetic mutation and 'natural selection'... this is not true and does not happen.

sea slime did not turn into bacteria, that bacteria did not turn into a fish, that fish did not turn into a reptile, and that reptile did not turn into a mammal... this is science fiction and 100% false.

You have hundreds of variation of dog, but they are variations from a common source... A DOG!

You have hundreds of variations of birds, but they are variations from a common source... A BIRD!

Evolutionism and the false scientists who promote the lie, want people to compromise their believe and compromise the truth; and little by little, and step by step, people are moved toward believing the lie of evolutionism.
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I believe Gods plan could have been Evolution.

If there is a God
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Why cant the whole Earth be alive and why couldnt have God created it like that ? I dont believe God would create things that did not work in harmony and were not dependent on the other in some way. God would create a perfect working machine (in this case a biological one) where all parts were necessary and interconnected. God does not create that which is not needed.

For nothing is as strong a foundation as the basic way to live. It is impossible to get around because God created that fundamental in all life. To live by the basics. And to adapt in order to get them if they become scarce. This is how the bounty of life is kept. This is how deserts can become gardens. When conditions for life are ripe that is what happens because that is what God programmed into all life. Just the basics. Only the basics. For the basics are ultimately is all that is needed. It is human vague ideas of progress that threaten us. We argue over what they are all the while life is adapting to our incorrect ways of living (non basic).

This is how the end times was predicted long ago. By a simple understanding of how life works in it's most basic form.
 Quoting: EndTimesAdvisor 18131262


The only people I hate more than creationists are you intelligent design assholes. God and science don't mix. Keep your faith out of it. Leave science to people who know what they're talking about.have a nice day.
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what a load of BS, evolution is scientific, religion and god are certainly not. you people trying to make religion sound scientific make me sick. we should not teach any form of religion in schools as there is no EVIDENCE we might aswell teach about how to find pots of gold at the end of the rainbow.
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Also i am intrigued as to how you came to this conclusion does it say it in your religious text or did you just pick certain parts that slightly fit as usual. im sure religions people used to disregard evolution or are you just changing your beliefs to fit as usual?
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Sorry to disappoint, there is no god.
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I have long believed that God created the Big Bang and let the chips fall where they may, perhaps giving little nudges here and there.
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I have long believed that God created the Big Bang and let the chips fall where they may, perhaps giving little nudges here and there.
 Quoting: Cave Johnson




Yeah Christmas Carroll that's what happens when you don't do math right you get big bang.

Don't hide behind an imaginary god for your very real incompetence.
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I have long believed that God created the Big Bang and let the chips fall where they may, perhaps giving little nudges here and there.
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Yeah Christmas Carroll that's what happens when you don't do math right you get big bang.

Don't hide behind an imaginary god for your very real incompetence.
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Adaptation and variation within a species is not evolution!
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What?


Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organization, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Why cant the whole Earth be alive and why couldnt have God created it like that ? I dont believe God would create things that did not work in harmony and were not dependent on the other in some way. God would create a perfect working machine (in this case a biological one) where all parts were necessary and interconnected. God does not create that which is not needed.

For nothing is as strong a foundation as the basic way to live. It is impossible to get around because God created that fundamental in all life. To live by the basics. And to adapt in order to get them if they become scarce. This is how the bounty of life is kept. This is how deserts can become gardens. When conditions for life are ripe that is what happens because that is what God programmed into all life. Just the basics. Only the basics. For the basics are ultimately is all that is needed. It is human vague ideas of progress that threaten us. We argue over what they are all the while life is adapting to our incorrect ways of living (non basic).

This is how the end times was predicted long ago. By a simple understanding of how life works in it's most basic form.
 Quoting: EndTimesAdvisor 18131262
explosionCreation is a trip, going back as far as dinasours, These creatures didnt arive from fish or bacteria. God created all of these.godzilla

All the different specis. Cave man arived through gods imagination, not monkeys or apes,people were created the same way. Adam and Eve was the start of Gods people, civalization, Jesus came around to explain why we are all here, To glorify god, so we have a home in heaven, created so we can all live together in a perfect heaven with god. Lifes a trip embrace it.
Its all because we know God. Creator of many mansions in heaven. Personaly I have some of my best laughs with god.
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Sorry to disappoint, there is no god.
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Then there is no you, God makes you breath
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Sorry to disappoint, there is no god.
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Then there is no you, God makes you breath
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lol if you flip something it has make sense. so does god stop people breathing? is he a murder?
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Sorry to disappoint, there is no god.
 Quoting: OPIATE OF THE MASSES 1351603
Then there is no you, God makes you breath
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lol if you flip something it has make sense. so does god stop people breathing? is he a murder?
 Quoting: AtomicTimcubus
To face god would mean death, in this world. When your time comes,We all gotta go sometime.
God gives and takes life everyday, preferably old age.
He doesnt kill people, the government does that. Follow gods laws, you should live along time. I would say there is no death with god only a higher plain of exsistance. Guide you onto your destination, Restores souls. You should read the bible sometime, or some parts of it, I believe there is a prayer to this effect. When you think about it God is the only one who actualy knows what he is doing.

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I have long believed that God created the Big Bang and let the chips fall where they may, perhaps giving little nudges here and there.
 Quoting: Cave Johnson




Yeah Christmas Carroll that's what happens when you don't do math right you get big bang.

Don't hide behind an imaginary god for your very real incompetence.
 Quoting: FUBAR 1351603
Look at it this way, God is real we're all figments of his imagination.herethere
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Yes they are completely separate.

Jesus did not teach evotardism.

Evotardism does not teach Jesus.

Thankfully, science supports Jesus.
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For in fact it was God that programmed into every living thing on Earth the capability to adapt and change.


If you and another person were alive in a forest that you did not know at all and you saw the person you were with eat a fruit that killed them then you would not eat that same fruit. You would go to another tree and the odds go up at least by one that you will live. That is a very basic way to see evolution. That is what God has programmed into all of us. God has put that in every single living thing on Earth. From virus and bacteria to blue whale and every living thing in between.


This is the main reason why all global societies rise and then ultimately fall. Because they become too vague about their existence and too vague about their beliefs on progress and getting ahead. They dont quite know what they are doing. So they wind up taking too much and building without respect to the natural world in which the rest of life just wants food, shelter and water to live. They have a very strong foundation.

A modern global society is too aggressive and too careless in it's hot pursuit of it knows not what. So they miss the small things and that is where the little animals adapt. In the small things. The things we miss in our way to progressville.

I mean you got people out there with a ton of money and fast cars but they are clueless about life and just run around and drive around like chickens without a head. Surely one can see the spiral down effect in a non life giving way of that life.

Why couldnt have God created two microbes and nothing else that could adapt and change to a harsh environment and ultimately over long periods of time create the world that we know. I find that possibility very likely and it explains a lot about how certain species can adapt extremely well to harsh environments. It all makes sense like that. So God being a giant man who was somewhat a natural chemist like a wizard sort of makes perfect sense. Maybe that is where the description of God was born. The classic idea of the profound thinking scientist.
 Quoting: EndTimesAdvisor 18131262


Thank you for your thoughtfulness ETA! However, I gotta stick with His Word!
God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense!

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