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When someone tells you a child was harmed at the hands of a church, do you go to that child and offer "god" and suggest he go play with the priest again or do you have some respect for other people's pain?

Get off your high horse and realise that your "saviour" is not a good thing to most people and that when they ask you to stop selling the poison to those already harmed by it, it might be because you are doing more harm. Duh. Jesus, you are dense.

Look, I know you get special brownie points and extra cupcakes in heaven if you convert people, but get a clue. Grow some restraint.
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If someone tells me a child is harmed at the hands of a church, I offer that God is not that church and to stay the fuck away from it... Since ancient times, people have used religion as a method of control and abuse. This is not representative of God though.

The reality is that to a hurting person, Jesus is one of the ONLY things that can truly heal you. Most people will only screw you over again and again. Jesus is not poison, he is life. I respect the fact you are in pain but I am simply trying to open your eyes to the fact that you need not wallow in it any longer.

I could care less about brownies and cupcakes in heaven, just getting there myself is enough of a reward. The reason I try and help is because I hate what has happened to people like yourself. I despise that children are used and abused. I am abhorred by the practices of many people who call themselves christian and claim to speak in God's name.

Please understand that electronic communications take out a large percentage of subtle implied communication and the way you interpret a comment may not be the way it is intended. If I have caused you further pain I apologise. My intention is to help others reach a better place in their lives through a knowledge of Jesus Christ.

There are people out here that care deeply for people like yourself. We wish to help, not hurt. If you are open to it, a lot of good can come as a result.
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If a child was harmed and emotionally traumatised by your bestest most favourite puppy dog in the world that you thought was nothing but love, light, and good. Would you continually shove the dog in the child's face and tell them they just need to pet it? Because that is exactly what you are doing to me. Please, for the love of your ridiculous god, DO NOT EVER go into crisis help or suicide prevention. Someone will end up dead with your help. Seriously.
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Sorry about that. Why don't you go explain to your Christian butterfly buddy over there that slavery isn't right just because Christians do it? Maybe they'll listen to one of the flock.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


I appreciate your sense of humor. Humor, sarcasm, cynicism... tend to be common among those of us coping with pain. My brother-in-law is king of sarcasm having suffered lots of loss in his life.
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By the way it's spelled Christianity.

Christianity is the only religion that Jesus died and arose. It is the only religion that God shred His own blood for an atoning sacrifice. Christianity tells people to overcome evil with good, to forgive and not resist evil. It is the only religion that I know of that teaches to overcome evil actions by good actions. Christian's main theme is to LOVE. It teaches not to covet what someone else has and to treat others as you would like to be treated.

Christianity teaches that we must forgive others of everything or else God will not forgive us.

I know many people say that Christianity has caused a lot of wars but this is not true. For true Christianity could never do this. But rather what you are seeing is false Christianity or the devil trying to make people believe it is bad.

As a matter of fact, so great is this problem of false Christianity that one day the Christians will no longer be called by that name, but rather they will be given a new name.
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Okay.

So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist.

When the US does the same thing (but neat and tidy behind prison doors) it is acceptable because the Christians are morally correct in what they do, yes?.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Absolutely not. Many christian are NOT morally correct in what they choose to do. Many fail and many hurt others. This does not make it right.

Add to this the fact that America is moving ever more away from being a christian nation. This is not intended to offend any christian living in America, simply meant to reflect the changing culture in that country.

Nothing justifies the mistreatment of another person. Ever
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The number is per capita, not per country. The US is the highest per capita (and probably also the highest per country).
But it's okay that the US has slaves because China kills people. Is this your argument?

Or is it okay that the US has slaves because it is a Christian nation?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


CHINA IS A NATION THAT IS GODLESS..WHY WOULDN'T YOU LIVE THERE?

What makes you think a NATION that is GODLESS should grant their people with FREEDOMS????

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Okay.

So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist.

When the US does the same thing (but neat and tidy behind prison doors) it is acceptable because the Christians are morally correct in what they do, yes?.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist. NO BECAUSE THEY ARE GODLESS.

Can you prove the USA kills people under the banner of Christianity???
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The number is per capita, not per country. The US is the highest per capita (and probably also the highest per country).
But it's okay that the US has slaves because China kills people. Is this your argument?

Or is it okay that the US has slaves because it is a Christian nation?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


CHINA IS A NATION THAT IS GODLESS..WHY WOULDN'T YOU LIVE THERE?

What makes you think a NATION that is GODLESS should grant their people with FREEDOMS????

 Quoting: christian


Okay.

So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist.

When the US does the same thing (but neat and tidy behind prison doors) it is acceptable because the Christians are morally correct in what they do, yes?.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist. NO BECAUSE THEY ARE GODLESS.

Can you prove the USA kills people under the banner of Christianity???
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"One nation under god" love. Weren't you just defending the Christian US and it's wonderful slave system because it wasn't China?
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Here are your bizarre rantings about godless China in response to the slave system in the US , Butterfly. Maybe you should read it through and consider what you are trying to say?

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You are aware that the US imprisons more people than all other nations and that the second half of the thirteenth amendment allows slavery within the prison system...and that it is a booming and lucrative business, right?

Just because things are tidied up over there and the slaves are all tucked away, does not mean your house is clean. It just means you're quite capable of living in denial.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Do you realize how many people reside in the USA??/

HERE is your EXAMPLE of a ATHEIST NATION...CHINA...Ask yourself what they do to there people...

Forced abortions
No Freedoms of any kind...a GODLESS NATION....

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The number is per capita, not per country. The US is the highest per capita (and probably also the highest per country).
But it's okay that the US has slaves because China kills people. Is this your argument?

Or is it okay that the US has slaves because it is a Christian nation?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


CHINA IS A NATION THAT IS GODLESS..WHY WOULDN'T YOU LIVE THERE?

What makes you think a NATION that is GODLESS should grant their people with FREEDOMS????

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Sex with hot, guilty nuns!
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If a child was harmed and emotionally traumatised by your bestest most favourite puppy dog in the world that you thought was nothing but love, light, and good. Would you continually shove the dog in the child's face and tell them they just need to pet it? Because that is exactly what you are doing to me. Please, for the love of your ridiculous god, DO NOT EVER go into crisis help or suicide prevention. Someone will end up dead with your help. Seriously.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Possibly not the best analogy because this has actually happened and I remedied the situation by getting a new puppy and teaching the child that not all dogs bite.

I am fully aware that I lack the necessary levels of tact and diplomacy to enter into the field of crisis help and suicide prevention. That's why I became and electrician and build stuff for a living instead.

What I do have is a burning desire to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to let people know that they can rise above their past and present circumstances. I'm just doing the best job I know how.

I refrain from personal attacks, irrelevant arguments, guilt trips and emotional manipulation because none of these have any place in a rational dialogue between two adults. Like I said, I do the best job I know how. Thats all I can do :)
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Truth, as opposed to NWO atheist lies.

ATHEISM is a NWO lie.
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Unconditional Love
"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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CHINA IS A NATION THAT IS GODLESS..WHY WOULDN'T YOU LIVE THERE?

What makes you think a NATION that is GODLESS should grant their people with FREEDOMS????

 Quoting: christian


Okay.

So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist.

When the US does the same thing (but neat and tidy behind prison doors) it is acceptable because the Christians are morally correct in what they do, yes?.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


So when China imprison, kills, or enslaves people it is wrong because they are Buddhist. NO BECAUSE THEY ARE GODLESS.

Can you prove the USA kills people under the banner of Christianity???
 Quoting: christian


"One nation under god" love. Weren't you just defending the Christian US and it's wonderful slave system because it wasn't China?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


The fact that you can post your un-belief, or say you do not believe means you are living in a NATION that believes in GOD ALMIGHTY...


I doubt you would want it any other way Missy.....

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Unconditional Love
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Um. It seems pretty conditional. Butterfly over there hates all Chinese because they're not Christians. I think someone else said they hate Muslims. It's only "unconditional" if the person you love is one of you.
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The fact that you can post your un-belief, or say you do not believe means you are living in a NATION that believes in GOD ALMIGHTY...


I doubt you would want it any other way Missy.....

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GB is actually pretty secular these days. You high?
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The fact that you can post your un-belief, or say you do not believe means you are living in a NATION that believes in GOD ALMIGHTY...


I doubt you would want it any other way Missy.....

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GB is actually pretty secular these days. You high?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Have you looked at the Moral Condition of GB???

Suicide and depression on rise across UK...



Rates of suicide and depression are rising in a dramatic demonstration of the human cost of Britain's economic downturn. The "alarming" evidence of the darkening national mood comes as David Cameron draws up plans to measure the sense of "general wellbeing"across the country.
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Jesus was the supreme example. While He was being betrayed with a kiss by Judas one of his disciples drew a sword and cut off the ear of the high priest's servant. Jesus said then that all who live by the sword will die by the sword and Jesus then healed the ear that had been cut off. Jesus did this knowing what would shortly be done to Him at the hands of these men.

Christianity teaches us to LOVE. It teaches us to look at our fellow man with love and not with anything that would cause harm in any way to him. Unfortunately hardly anyone lives this way or if they did, the world would be turned upside down. It teaches us not to hurt, harm, or covet our brother in any way. It teaches us to treat others as we would like to be treate.

Christianity teaches us to not be hasty to be angry. That the wrath of man that not being about the will of God. It teaches us there is a hell and people are headed there. It teaches us to overcome evil with good.

Christianity teaches us that man is redeemable. It teaches us that all God desires is that the wicked person turn from his wicked ways. That God has abundant pardon for anyone.

Christianity teaches us not to be like the Muslims who riot when their prophet is evil spoke of. Chritianity teaches us to rather react in love and let God be the avenger of evil.
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The fact that you can post your un-belief, or say you do not believe means you are living in a NATION that believes in GOD ALMIGHTY...


I doubt you would want it any other way Missy.....

 Quoting: christian


GB is actually pretty secular these days. You high?
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Have you looked at the Moral Condition of GB???

Suicide and depression on rise across UK...



Rates of suicide and depression are rising in a dramatic demonstration of the human cost of Britain's economic downturn. The "alarming" evidence of the darkening national mood comes as David Cameron draws up plans to measure the sense of "general wellbeing"across the country.
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So you believe the news and your god. Very good. I think you're due for a flu shot and fluoride treatment. Hurry up,I hear supplies are limited!! The news says so!
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Shouldn't your own spirit and humanity tell you those very things?

Why do you need a religion to tell you to be good, especially one so brimming full of assholes using the religion as an excuse to hate?

Why is it not already in you? What is wrong?

Jesus was the supreme example. While He was being betrayed with a kiss by Judas one of his disciples drew a sword and cut off the ear of the high priest's servant. Jesus said then that all who live by the sword will die by the sword and Jesus then healed the ear that had been cut off. Jesus did this knowing what would shortly be done to Him at the hands of these men.

Christianity teaches us to LOVE. It teaches us to look at our fellow man with love and not with anything that would cause harm in any way to him. Unfortunately hardly anyone lives this way or if they did, the world would be turned upside down. It teaches us not to hurt, harm, or covet our brother in any way. It teaches us to treat others as we would like to be treate.

Christianity teaches us to not be hasty to be angry. That the wrath of man that not being about the will of God. It teaches us there is a hell and people are headed there. It teaches us to overcome evil with good.

Christianity teaches us that man is redeemable. It teaches us that all God desires is that the wicked person turn from his wicked ways. That God has abundant pardon for anyone.

Christianity teaches us not to be like the Muslims who riot when their prophet is evil spoke of. Chritianity teaches us to rather react in love and let God be the avenger of evil.
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Salvation and a chance to be with God.
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Christianity showed the world just how dangerous organized religion actually is.
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No we are not inherently good, as you can plainly see by the state of the world collapsing around us. Humans are in fact inherently evil, which probably goes a long way to explain the pain you have experienced in your life.

What our belief system does (note the deliberate absence of the word 'religion') is teach us that we can choose a better alternative. We cannot do it on our own because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Humanity is sinful and will only continue to get worse until it makes itself extinct.

With any belief system, there will be those who are attracted to it for the power it can give them over those they can manipulate. We need to get past those people and make our own choices.

I'm not sure if any of this is getting through but if you only remember one thing, its this:

Jesus can and will save you. Just call on his name and he will be there. In your last moments if you have to but just remember him...


Shouldn't your own spirit and humanity tell you those very things?

Why do you need a religion to tell you to be good, especially one so brimming full of assholes using the religion as an excuse to hate?

Why is it not already in you? What is wrong?

Jesus was the supreme example. While He was being betrayed with a kiss by Judas one of his disciples drew a sword and cut off the ear of the high priest's servant. Jesus said then that all who live by the sword will die by the sword and Jesus then healed the ear that had been cut off. Jesus did this knowing what would shortly be done to Him at the hands of these men.

Christianity teaches us to LOVE. It teaches us to look at our fellow man with love and not with anything that would cause harm in any way to him. Unfortunately hardly anyone lives this way or if they did, the world would be turned upside down. It teaches us not to hurt, harm, or covet our brother in any way. It teaches us to treat others as we would like to be treate.

Christianity teaches us to not be hasty to be angry. That the wrath of man that not being about the will of God. It teaches us there is a hell and people are headed there. It teaches us to overcome evil with good.

Christianity teaches us that man is redeemable. It teaches us that all God desires is that the wicked person turn from his wicked ways. That God has abundant pardon for anyone.

Christianity teaches us not to be like the Muslims who riot when their prophet is evil spoke of. Chritianity teaches us to rather react in love and let God be the avenger of evil.
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 Quoting: The Light Under the Door

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Salvation and a chance to be with God.
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But who saved people before Christianity was invented?

(Please don't respond with that bit about souls hiding in Abraham's 'bosom'.)

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Christianity showed the world just how dangerous organized religion actually is.
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meh... its certainly not the only religion to do that. I think people themselves show how dangerous any organisation in general can be. Look at the damage that organisations such as the CIA have caused over the years.

In any group of people, there will be those who seize and abuse power. These people are the true culprits, not the religion or organisation itself.
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Many of us do actually have morals without needing a religion to tell us so.

I find it interesting that apparently, as you say, many are born without morals and that's why you need religion to guide you. It's very sad, but I can see why TPTB would bind you with religion (as retarded of a belief system as it may be). I just don't think it works very well because in general your people do nothing with it but use it to make excuses, war, be homophobic, avoid rational thought, avoid responsibility, etc. Maybe they were right to try to kill off the Christians if you truly are soulless and moral-less people without your bindings.


No we are not inherently good, as you can plainly see by the state of the world collapsing around us. Humans are in fact inherently evil, which probably goes a long way to explain the pain you have experienced in your life.

What our belief system does (note the deliberate absence of the word 'religion') is teach us that we can choose a better alternative. We cannot do it on our own because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Humanity is sinful and will only continue to get worse until it makes itself extinct.

With any belief system, there will be those who are attracted to it for the power it can give them over those they can manipulate. We need to get past those people and make our own choices.

I'm not sure if any of this is getting through but if you only remember one thing, its this:

Jesus can and will save you. Just call on his name and he will be there. In your last moments if you have to but just remember him...


Shouldn't your own spirit and humanity tell you those very things?

Why do you need a religion to tell you to be good, especially one so brimming full of assholes using the religion as an excuse to hate?

Why is it not already in you? What is wrong?

Jesus was the supreme example. While He was being betrayed with a kiss by Judas one of his disciples drew a sword and cut off the ear of the high priest's servant. Jesus said then that all who live by the sword will die by the sword and Jesus then healed the ear that had been cut off. Jesus did this knowing what would shortly be done to Him at the hands of these men.

Christianity teaches us to LOVE. It teaches us to look at our fellow man with love and not with anything that would cause harm in any way to him. Unfortunately hardly anyone lives this way or if they did, the world would be turned upside down. It teaches us not to hurt, harm, or covet our brother in any way. It teaches us to treat others as we would like to be treate.

Christianity teaches us to not be hasty to be angry. That the wrath of man that not being about the will of God. It teaches us there is a hell and people are headed there. It teaches us to overcome evil with good.

Christianity teaches us that man is redeemable. It teaches us that all God desires is that the wicked person turn from his wicked ways. That God has abundant pardon for anyone.

Christianity teaches us not to be like the Muslims who riot when their prophet is evil spoke of. Chritianity teaches us to rather react in love and let God be the avenger of evil.
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 Quoting: The Light Under the Door

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Salvation and a chance to be with God.
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But who saved people before Christianity was invented?

(Please don't respond with that bit about souls hiding in Abraham's 'bosom'.)
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Prior to Jesus, there was two sets of laws:

Mosaic law - 10 commandments and various other ceremonial laws. Applicable to the Jews.

Patriarchal law - 'Conscience' law where actions are weighed against the internal moral code of the family patriarch. Applicable to everyone else.


The book of Job outlines a good indication of a man in good standing with God under the Patriarchal Law system
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Just look at the difference of Christian nations (or once Christian nations) and you will see a world of different CES from pagan nations. As we get further away from our roots you will see less civilized in your world.
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Many of us do actually have morals without needing a religion to tell us so.

I find it interesting that apparently, as you say, many are born without morals and that's why you need religion to guide you. It's very sad, but I can see why TPTB would bind you with religion (as retarded of a belief system as it may be). I just don't think it works very well because in general your people do nothing with it but use it to make excuses, war, be homophobic, avoid rational thought, avoid responsibility, etc. Maybe they were right to try to kill off the Christians if you truly are soulless and moral-less people without your bindings.

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Ok, fair call. Not so much inherently evil then so much as more inclined to be self-serving as opposed to kind and helpful to others.

Prior to Jesus, people were judged by their moral codes and some (but not many) achieved an acceptable standard. Job is a good example.

Your examples:

War - Please explain how this is justified by christianity as opposed to people professing to be christians.

Homophobia - Not scared of homosexuals at all. Love em to bits just as I love anyone else. Don't agree with homosexuality though, take that one up with God, its not for me to judge.

Responsibility - Please explain?

We are not, by definition, soulless as we each have a soul. Morals are a different issue as everyone has a different moral compass. Regardless, we are called to higher accountability since Jesus died as we are responsible now for each sin we commit, unless we accept Jesus as sacrifice in our place.
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Christianity showed the world just how dangerous organized religion actually is.
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No it did not, the pope did. He's not Christian. Christians were the victims of the pagan Roman Pope.

Catholic Inquisition
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with Ex-Catholic Priest Richard Bennett

The severity of torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition can now be revealed from the pages of history. From the beginning of the Papacy, until the present time, it is estimated by credible historians that more than 50,000,000, men and women have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy charged against them by Papal Rome. This Video contains actual photographs of some of the instruments of torture that were used.

From John Dowling's The History of Romanism Book 8 Ch. 1, p 542-543, "From the birth of Popery in 600, to the present time, it is estimated by careful and credible historians, that more than fifty million of the human family, have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy by popish persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand religious murders for every year of the existence of Popery." The main credible historians on the Inquisition, besides Dowling himself are Lea, Vancandard, Maycock, Coulton, Turberville and Scott's Church History. The torture chambers of the Inquisition lasted 605 years and were found throughout the nations controlled by Rome. They had their beginning under Pope Innocent III in 1203 until the Inquisition's final dissolution in Spain and Portugal in 1808.

The DVD documents as well twentieth century atrocities of the Vatican working with Roman Catholic dictators such as Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler; Francisco Franco in Spain, and Antonio Salazar in Portugal. The most brutal and bloodthirsty of all was Anton Pavelic in Croatia four-year reign of terror.
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Re: name one good thing christianty has brought the world
But who saved people before Christianity was invented?

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Christianity was not invented. Atheism is a NWO lie.

The NWO ATHEIST brainwashing began with the French Revolution.

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