Neurosurgeon, has an NDE during a coma, personally confirms consciousness exists outside the brain!

For later

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

William Shakespeare, As You Like It

It's interesting all the paths we can take. In the end though, what's even great is realizing that we're all going towards the same destination. All the truth we'll ever need is with us at all times.

Just takes literally sitting down with yourself and opening up, not fearing to question, not fearing anything and truly diving in for what you know at your heart is true. Most people will get hints, but then fear of religion pops in "I'll go to Hell if I even question," and so they block those thoughts out of fear what they're doing is blasphemous. When in reality, that's exactly why we're here :). To find our own truths within, no one "telling," us.

I guess the administator of this board has deleted my post....tard did it not go along with you way of thinking?

im just more worried that i dont die a painful horrible death,not worried about my afterlife.

Fear is our biggest enemy. It's why religion was forced upon us. When you fear, you're easy to control. Religion actually severs the spirit from it's source, but like you say, too many people are afraid to ask the questions or do the research. Lol...I don't think I'm telling you anything you don't already know.

Kant realized this 400 years ago but we chose to ignore it

My sons first word when he woke from a coma was grandpa, his grandpa died 20 yrs earlier.

But this is helpful for Christians to know - because many if not most still believe there is no life or conscious awareness after death, and believe the soul lies dead in the grave awaiting the second coming of Jesus and the resurrection of the dead .

I challenge everyone who believes that this neurosurgeon had an actual NDE to read a book that helped me understand this phenomenon in all of its form.

The book and author: DMT: The Spirit Molecule by: Rick Strassman.

Check it out, it won't disappoint.

What??? I was raised a Christian, and the Christians I knew even of other faiths believed when you die your spirit either goes to heaven or hell (or Pergatory, if you're Catholic). In fact, this is the first time I've ever heard of what you said.
That said, I prefer to go by what I experience, and not what someone else tells me I should "believe" or "not believe" according to some old book.

gigantic play
nice one
IT IS REALLY GIGANTIC now, if we can understand our place in nature, our goals here & our relations with life in whatever form.. "

we want it!
we want the connection again!
and we will get it!

but the gigantic thing is not only, that you will grasp the methods of nature on a whole new level/meaning, but it is also the possibility that we would make it out of the cycle, accepting our progress, actualizing in this form to the extent, that the soul will change the journey, for better stimulaton.. environment changes or our perception changes.. these 2 must happen in order to satisfy our needs for growth (blossoming-realization)..

Death is exactly what you experienced before life...

Higher than the clouds—immeasurably higher—flocks of transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamerlike lines behind them.

Chemtrails in heaven!

:kramer2:

These two isolated occurrences might happen at different times and that would be great. They might happen at somewhat congruent times, and that would be great, as well. Therefore, we are stuck with accepting an indisputable reflection of our solution.

Yes it does, and that's when real intereting it gets. You'll never regret life is like this and you'll be very thankful

IF there are multiple realities
then we could visit the past (we see it as NOW - for we have no comparison) or the future (whatever - we would think it is NOW) ... so THIS NOW.. could be only a window.. OUR WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY

+ & - travel would be also very usefull
no paradoxes here, many bodies, not only human forms
LIFE is 1 family and i set it as default as a kid, and nothing will change this



Last Edited by Funney on 10/09/2012 01:55 AM

Man is not just a biological machine. The inconsistency of the modern mechanist is: If this were merely a material universe and man only a machine, such a man would be wholly unable to recognize himself as such a machine, and likewise would such a machine-man be wholly unconscious of the fact of the existence of such a material universe. The materialistic dismay and despair of a mechanistic science has failed to recognize the fact of the spirit-indwelt mind of the scientist whose very supermaterial insight formulates these mistaken and self-contradictory concepts of a materialistic universe.

If the universe were only material and man only a machine, there would be no science to embolden the scientist to postulate this mechanization of the universe. Machines cannot measure, classify, nor evaluate themselves. Such a scientific piece of work could be executed only by some entity of supermachine status.

If universe reality is only one vast machine, then man must be outside of the universe and apart from it in order to recognize such a fact and become conscious of the insight of such an evaluation.

If man is only a machine, by what technique does this man come to believe or claim to know that he is only a machine? The experience of self-conscious evaluation of one's self is never an attribute of a mere machine. A self-conscious and avowed mechanist is the best possible answer to mechanism. If materialism were a fact, there could be no self-conscious mechanist.

The very claim of materialism implies a supermaterial consciousness of the mind which presumes to assert such dogmas. A mechanism might deteriorate, but it could never progress. Machines do not think, create, dream, aspire, idealize, hunger for truth, or thirst for righteousness. They do not motivate their lives with the passion to serve other machines and to choose as their goal of eternal progression the sublime task of finding God and striving to be like him. Machines are never intellectual, emotional, aesthetic, ethical, moral, or spiritual.

How foolish to presume that an automaton could conceive a philosophy of automatism, and how ridiculous that it should presume to form such a concept of other and fellow automatons!

Any scientific interpretation of the material universe is valueless unless it provides due recognition for the scientist. No appreciation of art is genuine unless it accords recognition to the artist. No evaluation of morals is worth while unless it includes the moralist. No recognition of philosophy is edifying if it ignores the philosopher, and religion cannot exist without the real experience of the religionist who, in and through this very experience, is seeking to find God and to know him.

Science lives by the mathematics of the mind; music expresses the tempo of the emotions. Religion is the spiritual rhythm of the soul in time-space harmony with the higher and eternal melody measurements of Infinity. Religious experience is something in human life which is truly supermathematical.

You are not the body you inhabit, just like you are not the clothes you are wearing. You are the consciousness that resides within the body, and gives life to the body. When you leave your body, the body dies. When you enter the body in the womb, you give life to the body.

Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 10/09/2012 02:22 AM

Just so you know, being an atheist and believing in an afterlife aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm not atheist I believe in the potential for a god-like being, whether this is a conscious being or just "everything in existence as one living entity". though I lean towards the latter.

I don't believe God magically "poofed!" the Earth in 7 days or some ****. I try not to criticize anyone who does though, since if their god really is all powerful, it's easy to understand why they'd believe what they do (a truly all-powerful god could make a 9,000 year old Earth and retroactively make things billions of years old. I'm not explaining myself very well here, but as an example would be DC's DCU comics history. In story the universe was remade. Technically, in-story it was only a few years old but had billions of years of history. Not a good explanation, and I'm just making myself sound stupid, but I've no idea how to properly explain what I mean. Maybe insert "time happens all at once" or something similar. Or time moves in all directions. Someone can probably explain what I mean better than me.

I do believe in an afterlife too. I try to ignore religion as a whole though, as they just feel like large brainwashing cults (no offense). They obviously (usually) have truths in them, but I say take the truths from them and walk on past the dungheaps. If you're using your religion for hate, you're doing it wrong.

hmmmn,i bet my psychiatrist's won't believe him though.i want him as my dr. now.

Every soul has a purpose

or maybe he's just bullshitting

does it hurt to admit that every soul is god ? Every single one of us once was a creator, there is no "master creator" or "god".
YOU are fuckin god :D :D Man it gotta hurt somehow for Christ-tards like you.

so, could he interact with his environment when in a coma?

if not then this is BS

because the exact definition of conscious is being able to interact with the environment!

your being led astray!

Ohhh Ive been to the other side many times. This is the dream,there is no death.Dare to Be who you realy are cause it is the true you, stop playing others games. Be aware of the mental programing going on.Remember who you are!

Read the article linked to on Page 1.

its all just conjecture, there is no logic in this. a bit of wishful thinking mixed in with the memories of someones hallucinations in a coma.

his words at the end of the article:
I’m still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience. But on a deep level I’m very different from the person I was before, because I’ve caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the work it will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right.

two days ago i found this research: (related)
[link to medicalxpress.com]

old brain structure is working hard at nights!
and it aint the part responsible for defragmentation of days information, but the old native mammalian part as if comparing with the survival like structure (good/bad, fight or flight.. no excuses are examined here, just facts against facts comparing)..so this can lead to the assumption, that we literary live another lives at nights.. while our psychical bodies lie uninhabitet at that time, WE have the chance for A MEETING (perhaps many in that night) ..many in ones lifetime

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Last Edited by Funney on 10/09/2012 04:08 AM

There is no logic to consciousness,it is the greatest mystery in the known universe.