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Why is Obama in Trouble ? I'll tell you my experience today.

 
Redpaw360

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The only unions Obama really helps are the government worker unions like AFSCME and SEIU and their ilk. I'm a Teamster, and I don't see anyone in the skilled trade unions benefiting from what he's doing.

I live in SW PA and I'll tell you there are many Democrats who are not voting for him. In the primary, in my area, some counties had as many as 40% of the people who were registered Democrat who did not pull the lever for Obama. That's astounding, and if even half those votes go to Romney, PA itself might be in play.

In 2008, I received probably 5 flyers from Obama and none from McCain. This cycle, I've received 4 from Romney and none from Obama, so there's a ground game gap also.

On the ground, there have been people going to large minority neighborhoods trying to register people, but I've heard from several Democratic committee people that no one is interested in registering.

In 2008, Obama had young people and minorities voting for him in droves. While I doubt they're jumping to Romney, I do think they'll be staying home here and in other places. The projections based on the turn out model from that time will be dead wrong.
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BINGO! I am in SE PA (Phila), and construction is in the toilet and has been for awhile. Layoffs are becoming more and more common, and its feast and famine work. Luck to land a gig every couple months.

Heres my opinion...I believe the big push against "unions" really isnt the trade unions, but the Public Sector unions as mentioned above. These snakes skim tax payer dollars from the pay and pensions of these supposed "public servants", and then launder it right back to the Democrats. They utilize government facilities to campaign and even produce campaign literature for Democrat candidates. I saw this for myself when I was doing a gig in Trenton in a State building back in 2008.

And what exactly has expanded in this economy? Why the government employees...or at least those who will tow the line
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The government claims to expand growth and yet cant even keep the postal service running effectively. My government sucks, I need the government out of my life. There is nothing the government does locally to keep people employed at any scale except to hinder growth.

I'll be a felon if I can't produce health care for myself consistently for years to come, and shoulder the burden for those I'd like to employ without facing tons of hiddens costs.... Unemployment benefits, healthcare, shit man I should just offer to pay their gas as well to get to work and an alarm clock?

Oh, and they need new sheets for their bed to sleep comfy too...fuck this.

Your fired.

I'm tossing the towel in to get my benefits for a new escalade, if others can do it...... It must be the new way to go.

NOT.
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Is Obama's presidency really in trouble?
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The Dems do not care about women at all.

Do not be fooled, it is a ploy even Hillary does not care.
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Thatcher did this to the UK 30yrs ago. Wrecked the coal and steel industries - to break the unions, 'modernisation', encouraging nuclear industry etc.

There's always some false reason. Now it's the 'environment'.

UK coal mining/steel communities were utterly devastated. They have never recovered. They probably never will. Generations out of work. Terminally depressed communities.

That made way for the rise of the financial services industry.

Look where that got us.
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Is Obama's presidency really in trouble?
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Obama will lose BIG in November
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My career is at the other end of the coal fired electrical business. I meter primary and secondary lines for our customers. So thanks for keeping the plants up and running.

The thing that pisses me off about my union (IBEW) is they always promote Democrats and support them with my union dues. If ever there was a war waged against our jobs it is now and by the very people who we are lead to support.

My fellow workers see past the b.s. Thank God.

ETA...My company has been getting rid of people lately. Has a lot to do with the ridiculous EPA standards and the time they gave us to get it done. The technology doesn't even exist yet.

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When one says union, they might as well say Democrat. It has not always been this way, but gradually over the past 40 or so years union dues have gone almost exclusively to the Democrats. The problem is that the Democrat party is no longer recognizable to the rank and file union member, but their leaders blindly support them. The last real Democrat, IMHO, was John F Kennedy. Today's union is not you father, or grandfathers union.
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Is Obama's presidency really in trouble?
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Obama will lose BIG in November
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I think you may be right. Read this lifelong prominent Dem's reasons why he's voting for Romney, and look at the comments. Lots of disgusted Dems who see through the empty suit (or chair lol) and are disillusioned by his broken promises and outright lies. Obama has lost his mojo, IMO, and it may be real hard for him to come back from this one.

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i will be able to lurk on my phone though !! its to hard to post. i have fat finger syndrome...
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your fingers are too fat
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The key state may be Ohio.

How would Ohioans feel about all the Chinese money coming into Obama's campaign via overseas credit card money?

I mean over ½ of Americans are very concerned about China's growing economic power.

Only the Chinese are simply withering the US from within.

It's much cheaper than a way.

And they don't get the blame.
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If everybody votes for Romney, Obama will still win. He is fixing the election. He has a company in sinking Spain that is going to count the votes, and they will report that stinky BO wins not matter how big a landslide Romney wins by. This is why the Associated Press just stated that they will not do exit polls in 19 states. For if they did, the cheating would be obvious. Now, without the exit polls, the votes that Spain counts will show BO as the winner; and there is nothing anybody can do about it but start a civil war. Don't get caught with your panties down. Lock and load. The UN is coming for you and your guns; as the USA slips and slides into communism.
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I wonder if there is there is a correlation between the states not being polled and the states where Spain will be doing the counting?

Makes one go HMMMMM ....
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15 coal men - the latest fox poll.

Obama wins by 4% - it's his eight years. Then the Republicans get eight. Then the Democrats get eight. And nothing changes. End of story.
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Is Obama's presidency really in trouble?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25202337


Obama will lose BIG in November
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They said this about Chavez too.

What the hell is Spain doing counting our countries vote tallies?, is the USA so fuckedmup that we have to outsource our vote tallies to get the job done?

Who can I kick to the effin' curb to get a real vote count?. I trust no one to count what I vote for, why should you?

Spain is a shithole right now and kicking civilian asses for speaking out, the youth know something and it is not good to know that they are counting our votes.

Shit fuck damn".......this is mind numbing to witness.
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If everybody votes for Romney, Obama will still win. He is fixing the election. He has a company in sinking Spain that is going to count the votes, and they will report that stinky BO wins not matter how big a landslide Romney wins by. This is why the Associated Press just stated that they will not do exit polls in 19 states. For if they did, the cheating would be obvious. Now, without the exit polls, the votes that Spain counts will show BO as the winner; and there is nothing anybody can do about it but start a civil war. Don't get caught with your panties down. Lock and load. The UN is coming for you and your guns; as the USA slips and slides into communism.
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Somehow I don't think it will work out, Romney is from Spanish descent, his dad was Mexican. I think he should being that up more myself!
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Is Obama's presidency really in trouble?
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Obama will lose BIG in November
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They said this about Chavez too.

What the hell is Spain doing counting our countries vote tallies?, is the USA so fuckedmup that we have to outsource our vote tallies to get the job done?

Who can I kick to the effin' curb to get a real vote count?. I trust no one to count what I vote for, why should you?

Spain is a shithole right now and kicking civilian asses for speaking out, the youth know something and it is not good to know that they are counting our votes.

Shit fuck damn".......this is mind numbing to witness.
 Quoting: Redpaw360


It truly is mind numbing. I cannot say with much confidence, that our vote counting has been with out fraud after voting machines took over.
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Too bad that its cheap natural gas that is killing coal.
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Glad to hear your back to work
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If everybody votes for Romney, Obama will still win. He is fixing the election. He has a company in sinking Spain that is going to count the votes, and they will report that stinky BO wins not matter how big a landslide Romney wins by. This is why the Associated Press just stated that they will not do exit polls in 19 states. For if they did, the cheating would be obvious. Now, without the exit polls, the votes that Spain counts will show BO as the winner; and there is nothing anybody can do about it but start a civil war. Don't get caught with your panties down. Lock and load. The UN is coming for you and your guns; as the USA slips and slides into communism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25013010


The company is called Scytl. Two former Goldman Sachs execs are on the board. Their software was rigged to flip Ron Paul's votes to Romney. Proven by many algorithmic studies. They even pulled that stunt in Ron Paul's district, where he takes about 75% of the vote always.
They flipped it to Romney. The data was so clear that a 5 year old could see the hinge points where it was flipped.

Election fraud big time. But you do see the FEC or the FBI doing anything about it. Ron Paul was the legitimate winner, not Romney.

Scytl isn't in the tank for Obama.
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UNIONS will vote/endorse anyone that gives them $$, they are as corrupt as politicians and as necessary as wings on a pig.
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I dunno... a BBQ Pig wing would be a huge hit!
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maybe not in Michigan...
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Tell 'them' it is a Turkey wing... Halal ;-)
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Romney's tax return showed he donated over 2 million dollars to charity last year.

SO yes, he does help the "little guy".
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Why is Obama in trouble? He's the kind of guy who likes to listen to other people and think about what they say. On top of that he isn't getting enough sleep. Get some sleep next time, lad, and kick nazi fuckin ass.
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Why is Obama in trouble? He's the kind of guy who likes to listen to other people and think about what they say. On top of that he isn't getting enough sleep. Get some sleep next time, lad, and kick nazi fuckin ass.
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Did you get baked before you came here tonight?.....

Put down the pipe, knock the dicks out of your mouth, push the boyfriends off you and realize that you are fucking wrong.
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