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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5700314 United States 10/08/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17011760 United States 10/08/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We had some great guys in my unit and this was discussed most said no untill we were fired on 90,s .I hope it remains the same now. oathtaker now Quoting: ar-15 nut I have a question for you. How do you think soldiers would react if they were tasked with taking up firearms and detaining those who might refuse? |
Billy_Sastard (OP) User ID: 25215522 United States 10/08/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We had some great guys in my unit and this was discussed most said no untill we were fired on 90,s .I hope it remains the same now. oathtaker now Quoting: ar-15 nut I have a question for you. How do you think soldiers would react if they were tasked with taking up firearms and detaining those who might refuse? I was just about to ask the same question... It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :( :abomb::abomb::abomb: BRING ON THE DOOM!!! |
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Billy_Sastard (OP) User ID: 25215522 United States 10/08/2012 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are referring to the civil war, well, those southern boys weren't US citizens, now were they? It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :( :abomb::abomb::abomb: BRING ON THE DOOM!!! |
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ar-15 nut User ID: 1281306 United States 10/08/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We had some great guys in my unit and this was discussed most said no untill we were fired on 90,s .I hope it remains the same now. oathtaker now Quoting: ar-15 nut I have a question for you. How do you think soldiers would react if they were tasked with taking up firearms and detaining those who might refuse? They did it in katrina .I would not obey a unconstitutional order i think the military would split many soldiers have family and would not do this but you may have to worry about blackwater mercs nato ect never surrender your guns!!!! We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
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Billy_Sastard (OP) User ID: 25216240 United States 10/08/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This makes me sad. I did not know about the weapon confiscation stuff with katrina... It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :( :abomb::abomb::abomb: BRING ON THE DOOM!!! |
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Guano- User ID: 6131891 United States 10/08/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole world or the US has gone to complete chaos. Every major store/gas station and hospital are looted or destroyed. There is no food, water or an organized society. It's a free for all. Now imagine you being a troop, seeing all the chaos, not knowing if you still have a home to go back to. Now are you going to walk away and go into the chaos with nothing or are you going to stay where you have food, water, shelter, guns and people you know? We will be shot at, just like the the German Nazi's did and countless other governments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213681 United States 10/08/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just look at what happened with the guard and Katrina for the answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 I remember that was unauthorized unregulated no rules Blackwater. Those f*ckers just showed up b/c bush sent them there. If I'm not mistaken we still had posse commitatus at the time (may be wrong). Completely illegal for him to do that. That was also the time he took away NG control from the states. Insofar as what kind of danger from our own soldiers we might experience, there's going to be some kids who are too awestruck by 'authority' to disobey. That's a fact. Blackwater & mercenaries are very expensive for a job that size. Just thinkin out loud. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213681 United States 10/08/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blackwater/mercenaries don't mix well with regular soldiers, in fact they got in the way and messed up some regular ops. You'd think it would be much more so in terms of conflict in domestic ops. Then there's what they call 'blackwater envy' because their pay was in the neighborhood of 25-30g's a month. Rough, no rules, no consequences. Psycho thugs. Correct me where I'm wrong. |
mezroy User ID: 20460818 United States 10/08/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Theyll fucking die trying! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24990026 United States 10/08/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i guess most of you never heard of the army machine gunning ww1 vets camped out in DC protesting for their GI benefits during the early days of the depression. all it takes for those "miliatary heroes" to turn their arms on even their former comrades is a commander telling them they are in some way "subversive" or "mutinous". i guess you also missed such minor historical moments as kent state ("4 dead in ohio"), the national guard units gassing and bayonetting war protesters, or the abuses they rained down on the civil rights protesters. yeah, i know, it was "them", not you. you are ALL "them", all it takes is the order to come to treat you as such. of course they will kill american civilians. |
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Gerry52 User ID: 5789790 United States 10/08/2012 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kent State massacre occurred at Kent State University in the U.S. city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis I know the voices aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas! Semper Fi USMC Very much an Occams Razor kind of guy. Bridging the gap between "It can't happen to us" and "We're all going to die". |
FATMANGOBOOM User ID: 14376568 Canada 10/08/2012 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe that in a martial law situation that US military troops would kill american citizens, or would insubordination cripple the military? Quoting: Billy_Sastard Oh god yes... History has dictated this time and time again... Show me a country that has not turned on itself... First they have to dehumanize the people. than they will kill them. |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 10/08/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The military brass knows. [link to www.29palmssurvey.com] Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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11:11 User ID: 17011760 United States 01/04/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We had some great guys in my unit and this was discussed most said no untill we were fired on 90,s .I hope it remains the same now. oathtaker now Quoting: ar-15 nut All that answer would lead to is the second question, If people dont fire are they going to carry out unlawfull orders that cause them to break their Oath ??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30110292 United States 01/04/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to say that most wouldn't do it and would leave, but there would definitely be some poor souls that would do it. Especially since they would likely be offering incentives like extra money, power, and the ability to own a gun in a disarmed society. I feel bad for the poor souls that choose to fight with them though. 3 million soldiers (even less depending on how many leave) vs. the entire American public would be a bloodbath, and the public outnumbers the military 10-1. |