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The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains

 
Karl Marx
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The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains
and they have a world to win.
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Nope, history has shown it is just a chain exchange program. New rulers, different chains but chains non the less.
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Whatever you say pinko. I mean, the whole history of Marxist/Commie/Obama success in the world has shown us... wait, what the fuck was I talkings abouts.
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And for that, they gain dictators, starvation, arbitrary executions, and n=more chains.

"Marxism" is the greatest scam ever perpetuated on human beings, and will be cursed by history for centuries.
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Marx was an Illuminati liar.
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Re: The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains
and they have a world to win.
 Quoting: Karl Marx 25139187


And for that, they gain dictators, starvation, arbitrary executions, and n=more chains.

"Marxism" is the greatest scam ever perpetuated on human beings, and will be cursed by history for centuries.
 Quoting: PravdaDemocrat


Marx? Engels?

The question is who were "they"? And what is "Marxism". The real question is what is Englesism.

Remember, everything of any importance or significance that has been a fed to you by religions, governments, educators and the medical industry has for the most part been a lie....

I will post something very interesting for you to read written by Frederick Engels, the other guy you don't hear much about. I would like your opinions, gotta get to a desktop.
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FROM...

THE ATTITUDE OF THE BOURGEOISIE TOWARDS THE PROLETARIAT

Frederick Engels, 1945



I have never seen a class so deeply demoralised, so incurably debased by selfishness, so corroded within, so incapable of progress, as the English bourgeoisie; and I mean by this, especially the bourgeoisie proper, particularly the Liberal, Corn Law repealing bourgeoisie. For it nothing exists in this world, except for the sake of money, itself not excluded. It knows no bliss save that of rapid gain, no pain save that of losing gold. In the presence of this avarice and lust of gain, it is not possible for a single human sentiment or opinion to remain untainted. True, these English bourgeois are good husbands and family men, and have all sorts of other private virtues, and appear, in ordinary intercourse, as decent and respectable as all other bourgeois; even in business they are better to deal with than the Germans; they do not higgle and haggle so much as our own pettifogging merchants; but how does this help matters? Ultimately it is self-interest, and especially money gain, which alone determines them. I once went into Manchester with such a bourgeois, and spoke to him of the bad, unwholesome method of building, the frightful condition of the working-peoples quarters, and asserted that I had never seen so ill-built a city. The man listened quietly to the end, and said at the corner where we parted: "And yet there is a great deal of money made here, good morning, sir." It is utterly indifferent to the English bourgeois whether his working-men starve or not, if only he makes money. All the conditions of life are measured by money, and what brings no money is nonsense, unpractical, idealistic bosh. Hence, Political Economy, the Science of Wealth, is the favourite study of these BARTERING JEWS. Every one of them is a Political Economist. The relation of the manufacturer to his operatives has nothing human in it; it is purely economic. The manufacturer is Capital, the operative Labour. And if the operative will not be forced into this abstraction, if he insists that he is not Labour, but a man, who possesses, among other things, the attribute of labour-power, if he takes it into his head that he need not allow himself to be sold and bought in the market, as the commodity "Labour", the bourgeois reason comes to a standstill. He cannot comprehend that he holds any other relation to the operatives than that of purchase and sale; he sees in them not human beings, but hands, as he constantly calls them to their faces; he insists, as Carlyle says, that "Cash Payment is the only nexus between man and man." Even the relation between himself and his wife is, in ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, mere "Cash Payment". Money determines the worth of the man; he is "worth ten thousand pounds". He who has money is of "the better sort of people", is "influential", and what he does counts for something in his social circle. The huckstering spirit penetrates the whole language, all relations are expressed in business terms, in economic categories. Supply and demand are the formulas according to which the logic of the English bourgeois judges all human life. Hence free competition in every respect, hence the regime of laissez-faire, laissez-aller in government, in medicine, in education, and soon to be in religion, too, as the State Church collapses more and more. Free competition will suffer no limitation, no State supervision; the whole State is but a burden to it. It would reach its highest perfection in a wholly ungoverned anarchic society, where each might exploit the other to his hearts content. Since, however, the bourgeoisie cannot dispense with government, but must have it to hold the equally indispensable proletariat in check, it turns the power of government against the proletariat and keeps out of its way as far as possible.

[link to www.marxists.org]

It explains much. Perhaps it is Engelism that is needed.
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Re: The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains
edit..Frederick Engels, 1845
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