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Five months before September 11 2001, the US advocated using force against Iraq … to secure control of its oil.

The Afghanistan war was planned before 9/11

See this:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

According to French intelligence officers, the U.S. wanted to run an oil pipeline through Afghanistan to transport Central Asian oil more easily and cheaply. And so the U.S. told the Taliban shortly before 9/11 that they would either get “a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs”, the former if they greenlighted the pipeline, the second if they didn’t.

Congressman Ed Markey said:

Well, we’re in Libya because of oil.
Senator Graham agreed.

And the U.S. and UK overthrew the democratically-elected leader of Iran because he announced that he would nationalize the oil industry in that country.


It’s a War for GAS

But it’s about gas as much as oil
As key war architect John Bolton said last year:


The critical oil and natural gas producing region that we fought so many wars to try and protect our economy from the adverse impact of losing that supply or having it available only at very high prices.

For example, the pipeline which the U.S. wanted to run through Afghanistan prior to 9/11 was to transport gas as much as oil.


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John C.K. Daly notes:

The proposed $7.6 billion, 1,040 mile-long TAPI [Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India ... admittedly a mouthful, but you'll be hearing a lot about it in the coming months] natural gas pipeline has a long regional history, having first been proposed even before the Taliban captured Kabul, as in 1995 Turkmenistan and Pakistan initialed a memorandum of understanding. TAPI, with a carrying capacity of 33 billion cubic meters of Turkmen natural gas a year, was projected to run from Turkmenistan’s Dauletabad gas field across Afghanistan and Pakistan and terminate at the northwestern Indian town of Fazilka.

TAPI would have required the assent of the Taliban, and two years after the MoU was signed the Central Asia Gas Pipeline Ltd. consortium, led by U.S. company Unocal, flew a Taliban delegation to Unocal headquarters in Houston, where the Taliban signed off on the project.


The Taliban visit to the U.S. has been confirmed by the mainstream media. Indeed, here is a picture of the Taliban delegation visiting Unocal’s Houston headquarters in 2007:

Here is a picture of the taliban delegation:

[link to www.historycommons.org]

U.S. companies such as Unocal (lead on the proposed pipeline) and Enron (and see this), with full U.S. government support, continued to woo the Taliban right up until 2001 in an attempt to sweet-talk them into green-lighting the pipeline.

For example, two French authors with extensive experience in intelligence analysis (one of them a former French secret service agent) – claim:


Until August [2001], the US government saw the Taliban regime “as a source of stability in Central Asia that would enable the construction of an oil pipeline across Central Asia” from the rich oilfields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean. Until now, says the book, “the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia have been controlled by Russia. The Bush government wanted to change all that.”

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Pepe Escobar notes:

Under newly elected president George W Bush… Unocal snuck back into the game and, as early as January 2001, was cozying up to the Taliban yet again, this time supported by a star-studded governmental cast of characters, including undersecretary of state Richard Armitage, himself a former Unocal lobbyist.

Negotiations eventually broke down because of those pesky transit fees the Taliban demanded. Beware the Empire’s fury. At a Group of Eight summit meeting in Genoa in July 2001, Western diplomats indicated that the Bush administration had decided to take the Taliban down before year’s end. (Pakistani diplomats in Islamabad would later confirm this to me.) The attacks of September 11, 2001 just slightly accelerated the schedule.


Soon after the start of the Afghan war, Karzai became president (while Le Monde reported that Karzai was a Unocal consultant, it is possible that it was a mix-up with the Unocal consultant and neocon who got Karzai elected, Zalmay Khalilzad). In any event, a mere year later, a U.S.-friendly Afghani regime signed onto TAPI.

India just formally signed on to Tapi. This ended the long-proposed competitor: an Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) pipeline.


Competing Pipe Dreams

Virtually all of the current global geopolitical tension is based upon whose vision of the “New Silk Road” will control.

But before we can understand the competing visions, we have to actually see the maps:


[link to blog.curry.com]

[link to blog.curry.com]

And here are the competing pipelines backed by the U.S. and by Iran, before India sided with the U.S.:

[link to 1.bp.blogspot.com]
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Why Syria?

You might ask why there is so much focus on Syria right now.

Well, Syria is an integral part of the proposed 1,200km Arab Gas Pipeline:


See map here:
[link to www.hydrocarbons-technology.com]

Here are some additional graphics courtesy of Adam Curry:

[link to blog.curry.com]

[link to blog.curry.com]

[link to blog.curry.com]

So yes, regime change was planned against Syria (as well as Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan and Iran) 20 years ago.

And yes, attacking Syria weakens its close allies Iran and Russia … and indirectly China.

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"Are the Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Really About Oil?"

YES
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But Syria’s central role in the Arab gas pipeline is also a key to why it is now being targeted.

Just as the Taliban was scheduled for removal after they demanded too much in return for the Unocal pipeline, Syria’s Assad is being targeted because he is not a reliable “player”.

Specifically, Turkey, Israel and their ally the U.S. want an assured flow of gas through Syria, and don’t want a Syrian regime which is not unquestionably loyal to those 3 countries to stand in the way of the pipeline … or which demands too big a cut of the profits.

Pepe Escobar sums up what is driving current global geopolitics and war:


What you’re really talking about is what’s happening on the immense energy battlefield that extends from Iran to the Pacific Ocean. It’s there that the liquid war for the control of Eurasia takes place.

Yep, it all comes down to black gold and “blue gold” (natural gas), hydrocarbon wealth beyond compare, and so it’s time to trek back to that ever-flowing wonderland – Pipelineistan.


Postscript: It’s not just the Neocons who have planned this strategy. Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser helped to map out the battle plan for Eurasian petroleum resources over a decade ago, and Obama is clearly continuing the same agenda.

Some would say that the wars are also be about forcing the world into dollars and private central banking, but that’s a separate story.


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as the character "Depth Gauge" in "WaterWorld" said....


"I thought you should know. There's exactly nine feet and four inches of THE BLACK STUFF... "
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World War 3: the unthinkable cost of preserving the petrodollar

If you want to understand what's happening in the Mideast, particularly in Libya, Syria and Iran, you must first understand the main driving force behind U.S. foreign policy. Contrary to mainstream media propaganda, it is not our desire to spread democracy or to prevent tyrannical despots from murdering their own citizens. The real agenda is to protect the Petrodollar system, because it is the only thing that is currently preventing the total collapse of our fiat currency.



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In my opinion..of course its not about oil..i think Saddam would have reached a ny deal to stay in power. I think its about geographical expansion, bigger countries that pose a threat are fragmented into chaotic little states that comply, industry and key positions are taken over..a coup..ready for demograhic influx..and control of water supplies etc..
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It's all about WW3.Oil and gas have played their part,but the real gist of WW3 will be muslim on christian,a religious war that has been ongoing for centuries.
The appearance of the muslim mahdi will unite the arab world under the flag of islam and his armies will invade north africa,eurasia and europe.It's just a matter of time.
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It's all about WW3.Oil and gas have played their part,but the real gist of WW3 will be muslim on christian,a religious war that has been ongoing for centuries.
The appearance of the muslim mahdi will unite the arab world under the flag of islam and his armies will invade north africa,eurasia and europe.It's just a matter of time.
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May e thats what fox news says, according to islamic prophecies arabs and christians will unite to fight antichrist
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World War 3: the unthinkable cost of preserving the petrodollar

If you want to understand what's happening in the Mideast, particularly in Libya, Syria and Iran, you must first understand the main driving force behind U.S. foreign policy. Contrary to mainstream media propaganda, it is not our desire to spread democracy or to prevent tyrannical despots from murdering their own citizens. The real agenda is to protect the Petrodollar system, because it is the only thing that is currently preventing the total collapse of our fiat currency.



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Excellent Video!
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Here's what I told a friend before the Afghanistan War...
to summarize...

If this war is about oil then you won't see any restart of the now defunct heroin / opium poppie trade in Afghanistan.

If it's really about the heroin/opiate trade then we will see a quick restart of the opium poppie crops once the war is underway...

Sure enough... where the CIA published in early 2001 that Afghanistan opium poppie crops were almost non-existent in Afghanistan, by 2003 they published that the LARGEST opium poppie crops in years were nearly ready to be harvested in Afghanistan.

Remember Dubya's (his daddy also has the nickname "Poppy Bush") public vitriol for the UN around the time of the Afghanistan war??

It was the UN that negotiated with the Taliban the demise of the crops using a medicine and food program.

So... as soon as the "allies" had control of the farmlands in Afghanistan the opium poppie crops were quickly replanted.

Wars often have SEVERAL reasons behind them and to focus on just a single one is the 'psyop' that hides the truth.

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Turkey announces the resumption of the flow of natural gas from Azerbaijan

UPI - said Turkish Energy Minister Taner Yildiz, said that the flow of natural gas from Azerbaijan to Turkey resumed after a stopover for days after the blast, which occurred in a part of the pipeline carrying gas in the third of the month.


Yildiz said in a statement released by his ministry today, "The explosion occurred on the third of October (October) in the part of the pipeline Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum in Sarivmich town in the province of Kars (eastern Anatolia), led to stop the flow of natural gas from Azerbaijan" , pointing out that the flow of gas resumed on Tuesday.


The statement said the report of the Turkish Statistical Commission "Turkstadt" yesterday which showed that the energy sector index rose 4.5% in August, pointing out that this figure indicates the continued growth of this sector, is expected to grow more than the rate of growth in the country.


And repeated explosions in the supply of natural gas pipelines to Turkey, the latest addition to the explosion of the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum line, an explosion on Monday last in a line between Iran and Turkey led to the suspension of export gas through it until further notice.


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Apprently the partner handling the smuggling/distribution of heroin product wasn't doing his agreed upon job - that partner was Iraq's SADDAM HUSSEIN.

Were you aware that the 'Order of the Skull and Bones', of which Dubya, George Senior (and John Kerry who just prepped the President for the recent debate - which went badly for Obama) are all members?

The Skull and Bones used to own the Yankee Clippers, a fleet of fast SHIPS which handled the OPIUM distributiion to CHINA during Britain's China Opium Wars.

Interesting that OBL was said to have been killed in Pakistan!

This recently in the NEWS...

"Customs recover 105kg heroin, 500 cartridges from goods train ariving from Pakistan"

[link to articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com]
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All about Heroine Drugs imo.
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If you can ever uncover which US citizens delivered the suitcase full of cash to members of the Pak ISI, which then made its way through channels to Mohammed Atta and his group of 19 hijackers, you might land on the doorstep (or very near to it) of those who were really behind 9/11.
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Of course its about oil.
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NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
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I have family members that keep throwing this theory at me.

My questions is to this mantra are, " Where is this oil then?, Where are the shipping lanes and US tankers coming and going from these oil fields? Why are we paying so much for gas to countries that are out to kill us? "

I never get a good answer to any of these from anyone.
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I have family members that keep throwing this theory at me.

My questions is to this mantra are, " Where is this oil then?, Where are the shipping lanes and US tankers coming and going from these oil fields? Why are we paying so much for gas to countries that are out to kill us? "

I never get a good answer to any of these from anyone.
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Because The Petrodollar Industry (which is falling)
Don't give a shit about you and me, and who buys and sells
Oil or Gas, its all about trying to preserve the petrodollar
in the world.

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China pulls out IMF and World Bank meetings in Japan

Zhou Xiaochuan, the governor of China’s central bank, has pulled out of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings being held in Japan.

The move comes amid an ongoing territorial dispute between the two countries.


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Why didn't the OP 'DoomneT' acknowledge he copied it all from here:

The Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Are NOT Just About Oil … They’re Also About GAS
[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]
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Why didn't the OP 'DoomneT' acknowledge he copied it all from here:

The Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Are NOT Just About Oil … They’re Also About GAS
[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]
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No sry, My sources are cited in this thread and if you want me to aknowledge something you may ask before to the person.

Did i say i write it ?! no off course not.
this is a Great Article, that i wanted to share here.
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This is probable the #1 song that the US cabal play every morning at the White House ;)
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This is probable the #1 song that the US cabal play every morning at the White House ;)
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Excellent LOLrockon
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"Are the Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Really About Oil?"

YES
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NO, it's about the advancement of a total Islamic ruled world.
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NO, apparently it is NOT (or at least no exclusively) about neither oil nor gas but rather....... the PIPELINES!!!

Construction almost NEVER completes and maintenance is CONSTANT so constructing them is almost a NEVER ENDING job

Just look for the following keywords:

Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline (aspiring to become the new silk road)
Supported by the USA as written here:
[link to en.trend.az]


Arab Gas pipeline (exporting egyptian gas to Israel)

Balochistan (which is INSIDE Pakistan) and the a US congressman tabled a bill for that region to become INDEPENDENT (just try to figure what possibly MAY be the reason behind it)

read here: [link to tribune.com.pk]


And for the lazy ones amongst you guys, there's also a video explaining some of the above things in a bit more details ;)

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This is why I find the opposition to solar and electric cars so odd.
Why pay terrorists and dictators with money and the blood of our youth, when we can produce all the energy we need off a patch of desert the size of a moderate city?
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DoomneT COPIED HEAPS OF IT.
BUSTED!



Why didn't the OP DoomneT acknowledge he copied it all from here:

The Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Are NOT Just About Oil … They’re Also About GAS
[link to www.washingtonsblog.com]
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