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Message Subject PAGAN CHRISTIANS WHO TEACH FALSEHOOD OF THE LAW,FAITH AND WORKS
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Well, I don't look at it that Jesus *expanded* the law, but rather that He simplified it. Kinda like the old adage " is the glass 1/2 full or 1/2 empty?" It all depends on where it was when it started before it came to the 1/2 way point, you know?

Regarding the "law of Moses"...... what people have been taught about the 613, and that God gave those commands to Moses to give to the Israelites, well, He never did. The law He gave to Moses was far, FAR simpler. The rest of it is levitical sand that must be sorted through.

No wonder Messiah was so frustrated with the teachings of the scribes and pharisees!! They had all but obliterated the truth, and in fact, in His own words -- they had taken away the secret of the key of knowledge.

Jesus did not come to die so that we wouldn't have to learn His Father's instructions... He didn't love us so deeply that He died in our place so that we are free to do was WE will.......
 Quoting: Shamar


Yeah, pretty much the same thing said in a different way. Even though the ten commandments given to Moses were far simpler to teach and explain, they are impossible to keep. What the Levites did was to produce a complex arrangements of laws and ceremonies by which they could 'keep' the law and earn a place with God by their works. Jesus taught that this concept is in error and that men cannot keep God's law.

To accept him? rather to believe in him and do the will of the father who sent him means this:

30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.



FYI
Why DID HE RAISE HIM A PRINCE? HE IS THE SON NOT GOD THE FATHER

HE IS THE WORD MADE FLESH[THE FATHERS WORD]
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Yes you are correct, the Holy Spirit is given to those who obey God, and the way in which we obey God is to accept his Son. For without the Son we are nothing in the eyes of God. Our walk with God has again been reduced to a single, simple command. Accept Jesus. Its not the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil this time. It is the very Son of God. Still, we have one choice to make and this choice will determine our eternal future. To each who obeys God and accepts his Son is given the Holy Spirit as a helper and companion.

Regarding the Son and the Father. They are the same. Father and Son are two concepts that God uses in order to explain his existence in a way we can partially comprehend. The difference is that to us, Father and Son are two separate entities but to God, they are the same entity. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three but one. They are God. We cannot understand this but we do not need to. Jesus is God and has the full power and authority of God. He laid down his life however to allow us to be with him. We are precious to him and thus he becomes precious to us.
 
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