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Message Subject PAGAN CHRISTIANS WHO TEACH FALSEHOOD OF THE LAW,FAITH AND WORKS
Poster Handle Neim-Ya'shar
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com·pel
Verb:
1.Force or oblige (someone) to do something.
2.Bring about (something) by the use of force or pressure
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"compel" ???

Faith doesn't make you do anything. You are not a robot.
Having faith, with the help of God, which is His grace. You
always choose to do a work. Choosing a good work hopefully, your "works" are the actions of your life.

God wants us to freely choose Him. Lose Martin Luther's "Sola Fide", it isn't true.


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Some Protestants insist that it is the faith that does the work in us not we ourselves. Faith (God's gift to man through His Word / Eph 2:8; Rom 10: 17) is a necessary motivation for us to obey but it does not make us obey. Man has a choice to resist or yield, therefore the obedience is our responsibility. It is our obedience in response to faith that brings justification (and Eternal Life). Justification then brings "perfect" or "complete" faith, the proof we have that Eternal Life (See John 3:36!). Further, Eternal Life is something we possess in degrees and that corresponds to how close we have grown to Christ. It is Eternal Life we are given not a promise of the eternal possession of that life. That Life, however, is so powerful that nothing in all the universe, but one's own self will and sin, can remove us from Christ's hand (Romans 8:35-39).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


I would argue that Compel is the correct word to use (as defined in point 1), in that Faith places upon us an obligation to act and produce good works. This is in accordance with scripture which states that Love inspires and Faith acts. This is how one can make the statement that faith without works is dead because faith obliges one to act.

On another note, how is it you can say that we possess a 'degree' of eternal life? We either experience eternal life or eternal death. Our destination is determined by our choice. Jesus or not Jesus. When we choose Jesus we enter into relationship with him and begin a journey to develop our character so that it becomes more like him over time. Our good works determine that various rewards we receive once we reach Heaven but our faith is what enables us to enter Heaven in the first place. I fail to see how you can argue otherwise.
 Quoting: asparien


None of this concludes that we can be saved by works or that works are required in order to be saved. We are saved by faith and our faith compels us to perform good works in the name of the Lord. How many different ways must this be explained?



seminarian you need to really pull your head from whereever it is and wake up.Revelation is the end time remember

rev chapter 20

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, *according to their works*.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: *and they were judged every man according to their works*
 
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