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Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL

 
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There is NO filter that can remove Fluoride!
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How do you know?
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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
You need this compound called 'alumina' to reduce fluoride.

I've been buying filters off this guy on Ebay and purifying my own water. Once you install the outfit, you just replace the filters twice a year

Dhilloni


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But this worries me, does that add aluminum to the water? That's not good either.

OP I've had the same issue and finally went back to dragging containers to the reverse osmosis places for 25 cents a gallon. I initially bought a PUR filter because I didn't want my water sitting in plastic containers. It sucks, seems to be impossible to simply have pure water.
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It makes me wonder if there is even such a thing as real pure water anymore.

I heard this may be true. That water used to be much more pure than it is now.
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Yea the osmosis one under the sink would work..I have one I think we got it at Lowe's it wasnt too bad and it works very well. So a little more money but it can get rid of so many more things that are hazardous to your health so worth it.
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I just wish i could buy a water filtered pitcher that does exactly what i want it to do.

Is that to much to ask?
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


a couple gravity-fed, no electricity needed, also if you buy from berkey you get the fluoride filters for free if you mention Alex J.... radio show

Berkey water filter, or a Propur filter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25092430


Oh, thats right. You can just buy the Berkey filters and make a gravity filter with them.

Thanks for reminding me. I might just do that.
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The berkey water filter, is a gravity-fed water filter.

It's already made as a gravity water filter.

I'm saying that they have fluoride filters that fit their gravity fed water filter.

Sure you might be able to make a gravity fed filter using their fluoride filters, but they already have a stainless-steel and BPA-free plastic versions.
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There is NO filter that can remove Fluoride!
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How do you know?
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You can remove up to 98% of fluoride, by reducing it with multiple fluoride filters.

:)
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Katadyn endurance series. Filter lasts 1.5 human lifetimes.

Last Edited by Daersoulkeeper on 10/09/2012 04:14 PM
the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the

TELL-LIE-VISION

television

when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision

tell lie vision
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Question: What Is Fluoride?
Are you confused about the difference between fluoride and fluorine or simply want to know what fluoride is? Here's the answer to this common chemistry question.
Answer: Fluoride is the negative ion of the element fluorine. Fluoride often is written as F-. Any compound, whether it is organic or inorganic, that contains the fluoride ion is also known as a fluoride. Examples include CaF2 (calcium fluoride) and NaF (sodium fluoride). Ions containing the fluoride ion are similarly called fluorides (e.g., bifluoride, HF2&#8722;).
To summarize: fluorine is an element; fluoride is an ion or a compound which contains the fluoride ion.

Water fluoridation usually is accompished by adding sodium fluoride (NaF), fluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6), or sodium fluorosilicate (Na2SiF6) to drinking water.
-- [link to chemistry.about.com]

It has been proposed that any positive effects of flouride are simply due to it's toxic nature causing developmental delay in tooth eruption. Also recently flouride has been linked, due to being THE most reactive element, to increased aluminum uptake into the brain. Alzheimer's disease sufferers are commonly found with abnormal deposits of aluminum in the brain.
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So i just told my co-worker about this and you know what he said about what i told him fluoride does...

"You cant believe everything you read!"

No shit! But when you read it in a scientific study it's worth taking notice.

It must be that active denial that our system would not do that to us.
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At least i planted the seed and hopefully he will do his own research
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I just wish i could buy a water filtered pitcher that does exactly what i want it to do.

Is that to much to ask?
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


a couple gravity-fed, no electricity needed, also if you buy from berkey you get the fluoride filters for free if you mention Alex J.... radio show

Berkey water filter, or a Propur filter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25092430


Oh, thats right. You can just buy the Berkey filters and make a gravity filter with them.

Thanks for reminding me. I might just do that.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


The berkey water filter, is a gravity-fed water filter.

It's already made as a gravity water filter.

I'm saying that they have fluoride filters that fit their gravity fed water filter.

Sure you might be able to make a gravity fed filter using their fluoride filters, but they already have a stainless-steel and BPA-free plastic versions.
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Yes, and it is way over priced with a bunch of features that i don't need.

I found some info on how you can make your own gravity filter with just purchasing their high quality replacement filters. I'll post a link
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
*Home Made Berkey Water Filter*

[link to www.alpharubicon.com]
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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“Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca
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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
*Home Made Berkey Water Filter*

[link to www.alpharubicon.com]
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


And these must be added to supposedly remove the fluoride

[link to www.morethanalive.com]

"PF-2 reduction elements are designed for use in conjunction with Black Berkey water purification elements to adsorb the following unwanted elements found in drinking water:

Fluoride
Arsenic V and pre-oxidized Arsenic III
Other residual heavy metal ions"


Still a lot cheaper than buying the entire unit.

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/09/2012 04:32 PM
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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“Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca
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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
This is what it says on the box of the filter i just purchased yesterday:

"Our unique, premium carbon filter reduces chlorine and an average of 96% of trace levels of pharmaceuticals. Yet, it still leaves behind benefecial flouride. It also removes 95% of mercury"

What do ya'll think?
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Duh.

"Activated charcoal" (charcoal that hasn't been saturated with something else already) will bind to a lot of things, but not to fluoride ions.

When they were teaching chemistry, some of y'all weren't paying attention.
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This is what it says on the box of the filter i just purchased yesterday:

"Our unique, premium carbon filter reduces chlorine and an average of 96% of trace levels of pharmaceuticals. Yet, it still leaves behind benefecial flouride. It also removes 95% of mercury"

What do ya'll think?
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


Duh.

"Activated charcoal" (charcoal that hasn't been saturated with something else already) will bind to a lot of things, but not to fluoride ions.

When they were teaching chemistry, some of y'all weren't paying attention.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23597994


Chemistry...i skipped that class.

I'm still a lil peeved that i thought i was filtering out fluoride the whole time and i was not.
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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How do I get the fluoride out of my water?
"Once you are aware of the negative impact of fluoride on your health—and especially if you live in an area where the water is fluoridated—you will have to decide what to do about it. To complicate matters, fluoride is absorbed through the skin, and by inhalation. Showering and bathing in fluoridated water is also a problem. Fluoride is actually more dangerous when absorbed through the skin and/or lungs because it enters the bloodstream more easily, bypassing the gut where it binds with minerals from food. When it is not feasible to remove the fluoride from your entire water supply, limiting time in the shower or bath and reducing the temperature of the water helps minimize the amount of fluoride absorbed.

To top it all off, fluoride is difficult to remove from water. Most water filter sales literature avoids the subject. When buying a water filter, you may be comforted by reading that the system you are purchasing removes 95 to 99% of contaminants, but if it does not specifically state that it removes fluoride, you can bet it doesn’t. Fluoride is a very small ion (atomic number 9). It cannot be “filtered” out of water. At this time, fluoride removal is limited to four main methods discussed below"....

Continued in the article:

[link to www.dancingwithwater.com]

1 . Distillation
2. Reverse Osmosis
3. Activated alumina(this is whats in the special Berkey filter listed above)
4. BC-Carbon

So there you have it folks:)
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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I can easily confess to being the worst speller I know. But, your Thread Heading using the word accept changes the meaning 180 degrees.

I'm sure you meant except, which can easily be changed since you are a paid member.

I wouldn't mention it except for the change in meaning.

Berkey water filters have an additional filter you can buy which removes the fluoride from tap water.

This was the least expensive method I could find besides distilling the water.
hf
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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
I can easily confess to being the worst speller I know. But, your Thread Heading using the word accept changes the meaning 180 degrees.

I'm sure you meant except, which can easily be changed since you are a paid member.

I wouldn't mention it except for the change in meaning.

Berkey water filters have an additional filter you can buy which removes the fluoride from tap water.

This was the least expensive method I could find besides distilling the water.
hf
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Well...i suppose i will change it for you:)

And you asked nicely.

BTW did you see my above post's?

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/09/2012 05:21 PM
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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distilled water is by far the best
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You must have some **** in the water you have through the tap.
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You must have some **** in the water you have through the tap.
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no tap water is not good too many bad bugs and chemicals - add natural minerals from health shop and then add them to the distilled water. anyway, you should get all your required minerals etc... from your food if your diet is healthy and not junk (crisps, fried, burgers, sweets, cakes, bread, etc...)
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Re: Have ya'll seen the new pur water filters now say they filter out chemicals except healthy fluoride, LOL
Thank goodness they kept that in the water, but is that not what they forced to the inmates back in the concentration camps in the Weimer Republic-Nazi Germany?

I have also heard that it is similiar to sodium fluoride, which is in Rat poison?

Just curious is all.

So right after I brush my teeth, i will go and get a flu and ammonia shot.
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But you know we need our fluoride. Otherwise we might have to brush our teeth!
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I did see the posts above--

I would be a bit concerned about keeping water in plastic for too long, and there is a lot of controversy about distilled water--we need the minerals.

I'm guessing spring water in glass is the best solution--try "find a spring.com"
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*Home Made Berkey Water Filter*

[link to www.alpharubicon.com]
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Thanks, the homemade filter is a great find I have a Berkey system with the Black Berkey Purification Elements and the Berkey PF-2 Fluoride and Arsenic Reduction Elements. You can attach the two elements in tandem, which will of course slow the rte of water passing through, but the extra filtration is worth the wait.


Berkey PF-2 Fluoride and Arsenic Reduction Elements
[link to www.berkeywater.com]
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I've used Brita filters for years. No, I don;t rely on their claims, only the knowledge that active charcoal/carbon removed unwanted chemicals - to what degree I cannot trust the claims. But most of the higher priced/larger Brita pitchers are poorly made. I've had handle parts fail within a week and Brita's answer was it's not our fault. Lids chip easily. Tiny hinge lid parts are constantly coming loose. The "date meters" area joke.
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I've used Brita filters for years. No, I don;t rely on their claims, only the knowledge that active charcoal/carbon removed unwanted chemicals - to what degree I cannot trust the claims. But most of the higher priced/larger Brita pitchers are poorly made. I've had handle parts fail within a week and Brita's answer was it's not our fault. Lids chip easily. Tiny hinge lid parts are constantly coming loose. The "date meters" area joke.
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You get what you pay for. And that doesn't account for much these days1dunno1
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