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why americans produce such good engineers?

 
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10/09/2012 10:15 AM
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why americans produce such good engineers?
why?
whenever i open any technical book,it is written by white guys in US.
ALL the modern developments in engg made by them.
why is it so?
why no asian country could build MIT?
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10/09/2012 10:18 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
why oh why when it comes to work you never see those good american engineers to be requested for job positions?

probably in 3rd world country but for the rest of us...they suck.
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10/09/2012 10:19 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
anyway america produces whatever they can pay with ass dollar money...

all the good stuff and people is bought abroad.
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10/09/2012 10:20 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
why oh why when it comes to work you never see those good american engineers to be requested for job positions?

probably in 3rd world country but for the rest of us...they suck.
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i don't think so.asian education is entirely different than western education.And proof is here.weste is more technologically advanced than east.every technology is discovered,perfected by white guys(n women now a days).
even italy produces some of the best mechanical engineers in world.
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
why?
whenever i open any technical book,it is written by white guys in US.
ALL the modern developments in engg made by them.
why is it so?
why no asian country could build MIT?
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i open fluid mechanics books and every book is written by american or european guys...it show they understand technology better than anybody else
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10/09/2012 10:28 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
I think a lot of Europeans, especially Brits would beg to differ with you. Sure, the United States does produce good engineers, and they have invented lots of great things, but if you want to see where the real game changers were invented in terms of engineering you need to look to Europe, especially the UK.

Europe (inc. the UK) gave the world things like modern industry, railways, metal architecture, jet engines, computers - the list goes on....
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10/09/2012 10:30 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Yeah - UK gave us the Crapper!
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
I think a lot of Europeans, especially Brits would beg to differ with you. Sure, the United States does produce good engineers, and they have invented lots of great things, but if you want to see where the real game changers were invented in terms of engineering you need to look to Europe, especially the UK.

Europe (inc. the UK) gave the world things like modern industry, railways, metal architecture, jet engines, computers - the list goes on....
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i am not discounting europe including england. They produced greatest engineers but from the reports i hear from industry.the recent engineers from UK univ are not upto mark..but the older engineers(age > 40) are still good
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10/09/2012 10:32 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
I think a lot of Europeans, especially Brits would beg to differ with you. Sure, the United States does produce good engineers, and they have invented lots of great things, but if you want to see where the real game changers were invented in terms of engineering you need to look to Europe, especially the UK.

Europe (inc. the UK) gave the world things like modern industry, railways, metal architecture, jet engines, computers - the list goes on....
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btw bridges built by your engineers here still stand and our people cant built good bridges
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10/09/2012 10:50 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Yeah - UK gave us the Crapper!
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GOd bless Thomas Crapper's soul
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10/09/2012 10:52 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
why oh why when it comes to work you never see those good american engineers to be requested for job positions?

probably in 3rd world country but for the rest of us...they suck.
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haha to Italians, Americans are nothing but fucking nig*as.
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10/09/2012 10:53 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
west is more technologically advanced than east.
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Fail.

Get a passport.
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10/09/2012 11:06 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
I think a lot of Europeans, especially Brits would beg to differ with you. Sure, the United States does produce good engineers, and they have invented lots of great things, but if you want to see where the real game changers were invented in terms of engineering you need to look to Europe, especially the UK.

Europe (inc. the UK) gave the world things like modern industry, railways, metal architecture, jet engines, computers - the list goes on....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23992770


i am not discounting europe including england. They produced greatest engineers but from the reports i hear from industry.the recent engineers from UK univ are not upto mark..but the older engineers(age > 40) are still good
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UK Universities are still the 2nd best in the world after America.

Plus some of the worlds leading engineering firms, such as Arup, are still from the UK.
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10/09/2012 11:07 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Asian is copy only


In canada we are medical engineer too
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10/09/2012 11:16 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
LoL, I pour/create my own molds for anything in the barn behind my house. I can make almost any part for anything/everything, mechanical/electrical, even make guns barrels now due to my new hobby lathe(14 1/4x8 3/4x 5 1/2 dimension). In a barn, behind my house, in Ohio, USA.
We are still here, and we are still good at what we do.

SmileyWink
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
LoL, I pour/create my own molds for anything in the barn behind my house. I can make almost any part for anything/everything, mechanical/electrical, even make guns barrels now due to my new hobby lathe(14 1/4x8 3/4x 5 1/2 dimension). In a barn, behind my house, in Ohio, USA.
We are still here, and we are still good at what we do.

SmileyWink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21129966


i envy you..i can't do anything here because people make things for very cheap plus i don't have house n place to install n run lathe..
but i can make nice wines from fruits..can make almost every chemical except dangerous one
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10/09/2012 11:19 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
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10/09/2012 11:21 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Many American engineers are actually German engineers who are Americans.
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10/09/2012 11:24 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
LoL, I pour/create my own molds for anything in the barn behind my house. I can make almost any part for anything/everything, mechanical/electrical, even make guns barrels now due to my new hobby lathe(14 1/4x8 3/4x 5 1/2 dimension). In a barn, behind my house, in Ohio, USA.
We are still here, and we are still good at what we do.

SmileyWink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21129966


Yes yes tell the world you make gun barrels, now tell us do you make alcohol with a still, do you grow tobacco, and let us know do you pay taxes?
siren2
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10/09/2012 11:25 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Many American engineers are actually German engineers who are Americans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


Men of many talents right there.

Being born in two different countries is no easy feat.
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10/09/2012 11:26 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9830971


This is the truth and how it's always been.

This is what made America great. No two people are alike, and those who have the ambition to succeed can do so without limitation.

Was a fucking beautiful thing...
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10/09/2012 11:28 AM
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9830971


This is the truth and how it's always been.

This is what made America great. No two people are alike, and those who have the ambition to succeed can do so without limitation.

Was a fucking beautiful thing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153


clappa
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9830971


I think this is it.

America generally tries very hard to allow the best to really excel. Culturally, risk-taking and experimentation are encouraged, even celebrated, although there is arguably less of this mentality than there once was. So when you open a book, and see a world-class expert as author, there is a good chance he is American.

But we are not as good as developing middle of the range talent. I think we used to better at this, but our public education system has seriously shit the bed. Motivated kids with motivated parents can still do very well because of the range of opportunities, but average kids with average parents are likely to end up with a seriously subpar education.
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9830971


This is the truth and how it's always been.

This is what made America great. No two people are alike, and those who have the ambition to succeed can do so without limitation.

Was a fucking beautiful thing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153


was
now it is communism but even communists produced some good engineers..
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
About 20 years ago I heard it described as thus...

Educate 10 Japanese engineers and on a scale of 1 to 10 you'll end up with 1 "6" and 9 "7"s.

In the US you'll get 2 "4"s, 1 "5", 2 "6"s, 4 "7"s, and 1 "10".

In the US, we allow the creativity of the genius to succeed. And conversely, the weak ones to fail.

Unfortunately since that time, much of the incentive for the genius has been dampened. And everybody passes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9830971


I think this is it.

America generally tries very hard to allow the best to really excel. Culturally, risk-taking and experimentation are encouraged, even celebrated, although there is arguably less of this mentality than there once was. So when you open a book, and see a world-class expert as author, there is a good chance he is American.

But we are not as good as developing middle of the range talent. I think we used to better at this, but our public education system has seriously shit the bed. Motivated kids with motivated parents can still do very well because of the range of opportunities, but average kids with average parents are likely to end up with a seriously subpar education.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


experimentation is barred in our country.we are told to copy and manufacture as fast as possible...
we could have done better but our communist bureaucracy +fascist politics + capitalistic business dictatorship is stiffling
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Many American engineers are actually German engineers who are Americans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


LOL I had to laugh when I read your words. My brother is a brilliant engineer, and yes, our ancestry is German. I never made that connection before, though.

I tell you what, though, both my brothers grew up taking things apart and putting them back together again. Any latest electronic device - they had to figure out how it worked. One went on to become an engineer and now he's VP of engineering for a very well known corp. The other works with laser technology and he also takes apart and rebuilds computers to make them even better on his spare time.

I don't know if it has anything to do with the German heritage, though.tounge
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Re: why americans produce such good engineers?
Yeah - UK gave us the Crapper!
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Yes and we are currently making a new product, especially for the American Market, it is called, the mouth cropper, to capture all the shit Americans talk on a daily bases.

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