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Massive Radiation in Virginia

 
Shodan99VR4

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Your link only goes through Oct 6, and radiation was higher in July.

Am I missing something? THanks!
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Okay, so you have extra doom. Please post the graphs that show it going back that far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]


Harrisonburg, VA Real Time Radiation Monitoring
June 08 2012 - October 06 2012
Beta Gross Count Rate

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Its been high for months, compared to say..Syracuse:
[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]

What's interesting is when Syracuse has its high points, Harrisonburg is having its lows. Hmmm..

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Is that your final answer...? Need to use a lifeline..?

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[link to radiationnetwork.com]
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It's something that is happening locally. Beta particles are not supposed to travel well.

[link to hps.org]

Beta Radiation

Beta radiation is a light, short-range particle,and is actually an ejected electron. Some characteristics of beta radiation are:

Beta radiation may travel several feet in air and is moderately penetrating.

Beta radiation can penetrate human skin to the "germinal layer," where new skin cells are produced. If high levels of beta-emitting contaminants are allowed to remain on the skin for a prolonged period of time, they may cause skin injury.

Beta-emitting contaminants may be harmful if deposited internally.

Most beta emitters can be detected with a survey instrument and a thin-window G-M probe (e.g., "pancake" type). Some beta emitters, however, produce very low-energy, poorly penetrating radiation that may be difficult or impossible to detect. Examples of these difficult-to-detect beta emitters are hydrogen-3 (tritium), carbon-14, and sulfur-35.

Clothing provides some protection against beta radiation.

Examples of some pure beta emitters: strontium-90, carbon-14, tritium, and sulfur-35.

 Quoting: Serendipity 24942595


Beta-particles don't penetrate well, but they are a sign that radionuclides are there--either as fallout, Radon, or local radioactivity in ground/buildings. The fallout can occur worldwide from a disaster under the right conditions.


The earliest onset of the possibility of radiation sickness from living in an area with a constant background count of 1000 CPM (one thousand CPM)would be over twenty years.

These high counts are Not Background. They are based on measuring a HEPA filter on an air pump the is filtering the dust out of the air at 60 cubic meters/hr.

Whatever is giving off the Beta radiation is likely also giving off other kinds of radiation. Eating a tiny fleck of something that is an Alpha emitter can be disastrous.

It would be nice to know the results of the analysis of the dust in the filters used in these EPA filtering machines. They have published the results before, but I don't see any past April 2011.

These are not dangerous levels at the present time.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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The Harrisonburg VA numbers have been off the charts high for many months since I began watching them. It is localized there, but I would avoid I-81 through that stretch if possible. There are rumors and speculation (I cannot find a source to confirm) that nuclear waste storage underground is leaking there.

I am in Virginia, outside Fredricksburg and my geigercounter says all is OK here... nuclear fallout wise. I did however have the opportunity to be wanding over my California grown strawberries and grapes newly purchased yesterday, as well as fresh broccoli that was not sourced... and you know what ticked up as the most radioactive item on the kitchen counter? Much to my dismay - it was a pile of M&Ms I was nibbling on while I worked. :-(
 Quoting: Crash Landed On Earth


Radioactive Halloween candy, what a surprise.
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Right? M&Ms were going to be my apocalypse addiction too. Now I have to rethink my entire strategy.

I am so curious to know what happened to that candy to make it click up to 80 CPMs.
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Why would there be such high spikes in and then nothing in relative areas of the country.
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Cities along the jetstream are showing high readings.

Spokane, WA
Kearney, NE
Madison, WI
Louisville, KY
Charleston, WV
Harrisonburg, VA


Some cities graphs are blank.

This is not good and not normal.

Radiation Network is 100% bullshit disinfo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10957384


applause2

Excellent point!

I do believe this is more evidence that this has nothing to do with Fukushima. The jet stream is high up. It's taking in space dust, and concentrating it.
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


Radiation Network is the only private radiation survey I know of. It is not controlled by any government agency. Their coverage is a little spotty because they are all volunteer. Every reporting station is an independant radiation monitor. The radiation meters are hooked directly to the computer, so nobody is controlling the reading. I trust Radiation Network way more than any other report, because they are not trying to control the info as it goes out. The only way you miss a high radiation event is if they don't have a reporting station near the event. When they get a high reading, they will figure out why and let you know what caused it.
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They are doing AVERAGES. If it's zero all day, then spikes to 500, the average will be very low.

Plus, it would be easy for paid shills to join the network.
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I am to the point that I go out only when absolutely necessary!!!!I make a point to keep out of the rain and snow as much as possible and only open the windows on a day when there is no wind.The filters are changed regularly on the furnace and I shower twice a week unless I am very smelly!Thank God I am 62 and retired/disabled and that I love my home!Not everyone is so fortunate.I weep for the younger generation.......I have had a blessed life and for that I thank the Creator......
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


These are amateurs, and it's just averages. And who knows what else. And maybe disinfo.

The other website is for real.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


It's not disinfo.

Radiation network uses good radiation meters and real-time connection to the internet. They're measuring only background radiation that is strong enough to get through the roof, or is in the air (radon), or is in the house as dust, or is from the materials in the ground or house.

But they're Indoors, and they're not measuring a HEPA filter on a high volume air pump!like the EPA does with its monitors.

Thread: On the difference between EPA Radnet and Radiation Network
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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Your link only goes through Oct 6, and radiation was higher in July.

Am I missing something? THanks!
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


Okay, so you have extra doom. Please post the graphs that show it going back that far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]


Harrisonburg, VA Real Time Radiation Monitoring
June 08 2012 - October 06 2012
Beta Gross Count Rate

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 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


Okay, thank you. I still don't get your point. Radiation, as another poster pointed out, is accumulative. So, doesn't your point just add to the doom? Besides, there are a number of states showing big increases recently.
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
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And your blog is more legit? 5a
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Radiation Over U.S. Is Harmless, Officials Say
"However, the Environmental Protection Agency reaffirm that the levels pose no threat to public health. At least 15 states reported detecting radioisotopes in the air or their water or both. No state governments or agencies have recommended taking potassium iodide for its residents."

[link to www.thenewshouse.com]

[link to www.nytimes.com]

RadNet is made from tinker-toys. Any numbers they show are divided many times.
I can remember when officials were saying radiation from fukushima will not reach the west coast because there was no explosion.
I was working in the pouring rain on the Oregon Coast at the time. So far, I feel fine. *caugh* ;wipes blood off monitor & tapes pinky back to right hand;
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073



And your blog is more legit? 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25165294


It's not my blog.

And machines that graph ups and downs are much more realisic than single figures.
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073



And your blog is more legit? 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25165294


It's not my blog.

And machines that graph ups and downs are much more realistic than single figures.
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073



And your blog is more legit? 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25165294


It's not my blog.

And machines that graph ups and downs are much more realistic than single figures.
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Radiation Over U.S. Is Harmless, Officials Say
"However, the Environmental Protection Agency reaffirm that the levels pose no threat to public health. At least 15 states reported detecting radioisotopes in the air or their water or both. No state governments or agencies have recommended taking potassium iodide for its residents."

[link to www.thenewshouse.com]

[link to www.nytimes.com]

RadNet is made from tinker-toys. Any numbers they show are divided many times.
I can remember when officials were saying radiation from fukushima will not reach the west coast because there was no explosion.
I was working in the pouring rain on the Oregon Coast at the time. So far, I feel fine. *caugh* ;wipes blood off monitor & tapes pinky back to right hand;
abitaskew 0110
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I have decided that [link to www.radiationnetwork.com] is useless, if not BS/disinfo.

Maybe it's just averages - but if it spikes over 500, I want to know. In any case, the data do not agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073



And your blog is more legit? 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25165294


It's the EPA. Since when do they willingly tell us BAD news?

Interesting comment on the posts below the graphs:

Well it looks like both the (working)RADNET stations,the Radiation Network map and the realtime jetstream maps all corroborate with the high readings along the southern edge of the jetstream and indicate yet another wave of fallout passing through. In fact some of the numbers for both gamma and beta are already at higher levels than have been recorded for the timeline displayed on the RADNET graphs go back to?!!
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Wow..
You people know nothing about fallout or the myriad of killer radioisotopes that are created by nuclear fission..

The monitors look for cesium because it is easy to detect.
Doesn't mean that is all there is floating around in the air you are breathing.

Same with food..
The equipment needed to detect radiation in food is extremely expensive and not commonly available to the average consumer. You can run a wand over it for surface contamination but the interior contamination is undetected.

And just because the readings may be low, doesn't mean that you are not accumulating contamination every day.

But.. please, continue with your denialist fantasies of well-being.
It makes the cover-up much easier for them....


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METHANE GAS RELEASES FROM GULF....METHANE IS LIGHTER THAN AIR THEREFORE IT RISES AND DISPLACES FUKUSHIMA FALLOUT...KINDA LIKE METHANE IS KNOCKING OUT THE FUKUSHIMA RADIATION IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE ...MAY CONCLUSION ...PEACE CHEERS
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Radiation network uses good radiation meters and real-time connection to the internet. They're measuring only background radiation that is strong enough to get through the roof, or is in the air (radon), or is in the house as dust, or is from the materials in the ground or house.

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Oh, I did not know that, thank you for clarifying.
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Your link only goes through Oct 6, and radiation was higher in July.

Am I missing something? THanks!
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


Okay, so you have extra doom. Please post the graphs that show it going back that far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]


Harrisonburg, VA Real Time Radiation Monitoring
June 08 2012 - October 06 2012
Beta Gross Count Rate

Do you need me to make a new smiley?
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


Okay, thank you. I still don't get your point. Radiation, as another poster pointed out, is accumulative. So, doesn't your point just add to the doom? Besides, there are a number of states showing big increases recently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


I thought you had meant it was higher than normal today. According to this chart, it's been high since June:

betareading
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I was listening to Suspicious0bservers Youtube video this morning and about 1 min 5 sec in, he talks about the storm out in the Pacific is bring in Fukushima radiation water across the pacific ocean via the jet stream, up into Canada and down into the U.S.
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I really like him and listen to him everyday. A brief 3 min./day and you get all the important weather info. Here is his link for all who are interested.

[link to www.youtube.com]

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It's something that is happening locally. Beta particles are not supposed to travel well.

[link to hps.org]

Beta Radiation

Beta radiation is a light, short-range particle,and is actually an ejected electron. Some characteristics of beta radiation are:

Beta radiation may travel several feet in air and is moderately penetrating.

Beta radiation can penetrate human skin to the "germinal layer," where new skin cells are produced. If high levels of beta-emitting contaminants are allowed to remain on the skin for a prolonged period of time, they may cause skin injury.

Beta-emitting contaminants may be harmful if deposited internally.

Most beta emitters can be detected with a survey instrument and a thin-window G-M probe (e.g., "pancake" type). Some beta emitters, however, produce very low-energy, poorly penetrating radiation that may be difficult or impossible to detect. Examples of these difficult-to-detect beta emitters are hydrogen-3 (tritium), carbon-14, and sulfur-35.

Clothing provides some protection against beta radiation.

Examples of some pure beta emitters: strontium-90, carbon-14, tritium, and sulfur-35.

 Quoting: Serendipity 24942595


Beta-particles don't penetrate well, but they are a sign that radionuclides are there--either as fallout, Radon, or local radioactivity in ground/buildings. The fallout can occur worldwide from a disaster under the right conditions.


The earliest onset of the possibility of radiation sickness from living in an area with a constant background count of 1000 CPM (one thousand CPM)would be over twenty years.

These high counts are Not Background. They are based on measuring a HEPA filter on an air pump the is filtering the dust out of the air at 60 cubic meters/hr.

Whatever is giving off the Beta radiation is likely also giving off other kinds of radiation. Eating a tiny fleck of something that is an Alpha emitter can be disastrous.

It would be nice to know the results of the analysis of the dust in the filters used in these EPA filtering machines. They have published the results before, but I don't see any past April 2011.

These are not dangerous levels at the present time.
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Something to look at:
1. Taken June 15, 2012
2. Collected June 18, 2012

Thread: Extremely radioactive sample from Tokyo air filter — 150 times more uranium than expected — “This is from Fukushima”
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Wow..
You people know nothing about fallout or the myriad of killer radioisotopes that are created by nuclear fission..

The monitors look for cesium because it is easy to detect.
Doesn't mean that is all there is floating around in the air you are breathing.

 Quoting: Waterbug


This is true. We assume it's worse than they are telling us.

But it's 'nice' to have graphs that prove that something VERY BAD and NOT NORMAL is happening right now, and have something to watch to see it going up.

eg Glad I don't live in SD or VA.
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Sick children all over Japan. Radiation affects fetuses. infants, and children..in other words it damages children while growing because it damages their cells.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Looking past typos in the translation....

[link to www.youtube.com]

The comments the above video refers to:

[link to www.youtube.com]

Notice the date on this one..March 30th, 2011, however since early on not all our states are reporting correct amounts, they don't want to panic us.

Only half worked in the usa on this date.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Now I'm filled up with the info and going about my day.

Be Love!
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Im in VA what would cause this? This is really strange I was in a walmart yesteday and I saw two people throwing up in the parking lot I went inside another person was sitting on a bench just throwing up on the floor. I got the hell out of there but that and this freaks me out.
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Gamma Ray Bursts & Fallout At 37 Times Background Radiation


[link to www.youtube.com]

The events were as follows:

1pm RAIN 10x over background
5pm STORM 20x over background
11pm STORM 37x background

The value recorded in the chart is a one minute average reading. Our radiation alarm triggers off of a 30 second moving average for anything over 50 CPM. We estimate that the instantaneous Gamma burst detection peaked at 600 counts.
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I buy what you are saying and in fact I wonder if the Japan thing is in part a cover for what is bombarding our planet from space and being released from the earth with all the gases and oil leaks beginning released as the geological activity on planet earth continues to increase. There is a lot more going on here on planet earth than TPTB are willing to tell us.

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I've never seen a high rad reading in Seattle, though...
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WEST COAST IS BEING SODIUM BYCARBONATE, IE SALTED, BAKING SODA...SPRAYED TO HELL....A DECON
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Okay, so you have extra doom. Please post the graphs that show it going back that far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


[link to blog.alexanderhiggins.com]


Harrisonburg, VA Real Time Radiation Monitoring
June 08 2012 - October 06 2012
Beta Gross Count Rate

Do you need me to make a new smiley?
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


Okay, thank you. I still don't get your point. Radiation, as another poster pointed out, is accumulative. So, doesn't your point just add to the doom? Besides, there are a number of states showing big increases recently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


I thought you had meant it was higher than normal today. According to this chart, it's been high since June:

:betareading:
 Quoting: Shodan99VR4


THESE SPIKES ARE METHANE RELEASES KNOCKING OUT FUKUSHIMA RADIATION IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE????? LOOK AT EARTHQUAKE TIMES SEE A PATTERN?
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Wow..
You people know nothing about fallout or the myriad of killer radioisotopes that are created by nuclear fission..

The monitors look for cesium because it is easy to detect.
Doesn't mean that is all there is floating around in the air you are breathing.

Same with food..
The equipment needed to detect radiation in food is extremely expensive and not commonly available to the average consumer. You can run a wand over it for surface contamination but the interior contamination is undetected.

And just because the readings may be low, doesn't mean that you are not accumulating contamination every day.

But.. please, continue with your denialist fantasies of well-being.
It makes the cover-up much easier for them....


Denialism
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 Quoting: Waterbug


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