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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24917207 United States10/09/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only sinkholes I've ever seen weren't filled with water? Can someone explain how the water isn't draining out of the area... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24917207  Ground water level? Probably not...but, after hard rains in Florida, I've seen a pasture fill with rain water, then the ground started shaking and WOOOSH! All the water drained down like a toilet bowl into a deep hole. |
Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/09/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey folks (recopied to this thread too) The entire meeting was taped tonight and I'm glad because we finally got some answers. I'll just let y'all watch and listen. Also, the diesel smell is back and strong again, so I won't be surprised to hear there was yet another cavein. I need to watch them myself to digest everything said. 1 2 3 4 5 |
| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/09/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Patassa, you did read that comment in the other thread, right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14779720 Supposedly someone got an email saying the date of the meeting was posted incorrectly and not being held until tomorrow? He is looking at the wrong area. There is a section dedicated to Bayou Corne for all news, then there is a Parish blog, 3 links down in the list. Anything that is posted on the BLOG, we get an email telling us what it says. If it's extra important or urgent, we also get a text message and a phone call. [link to assumptionla.com] It's today at 6pm. [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] 8:45 a.m. Morning Update October 9, 2012 //Driving of casing in the third vent well is complete, they were able to go down to 200′. We are advised to expect flaring by the weekend. We have been advised that Texas Brine is continuing clean up at the sinkhole site. The resident briefing will be held this evening at 6:00 p.m. at the Command Post. A Friend, this is the 3rd time I think in 13 years this has happened here. Wow, I didn't know that. I hope this one isn't any larger than any of those. Much Luck. Sorry....let me clarify. 3rd time for gas problems, not a sinkhole. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25242191 United States10/09/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Texas Brine cavern has been breached and what is leaking is diesel and after that leaks out it is toxic liquid stored in these caverns. Virginia is dealing with broken pipes from an earthquakes months ago. Big companies are going to cover up anything they can. Wake Up! |
| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/10/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4:00 p.m. Sinkhole Profile Available October 10, 2012 Texas Brine has provided a profile of the sinkhole, with the deepest point being 449 feet. The graphs on the side of the image profile the contour and depths to the deepest point. [link to www.edsuite.com] Last Edited by Patassa on 10/10/2012 07:48 PM |
| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/11/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assumption Parish Police Jury [link to assumptionla.com] 10:15 a.m. Resident Briefing Videos Posted October 11, 2012 //All videos from Tuesday’s resident briefing are posted at: [link to www.youtube.com] Categories Uncategorized8:45 a.m. Update October 11, 2012 //Texas Brine advises that clean up continues at the sinkhole. We are expecting the LA State Police helicopter for a flyover this afternoon. We will post a video as soon as that is complete. The Shaw Group will be logging vent well #1 today to see exactly how much gas is present. There was a short period of time that Highway 70 was closed this morning while a flare was checked at Crosstex. The flare was quite large; however, we have been advised that it was within normal operations. The road was closed as a safety measure to verify that it was actaully a flare and not a fire on Crosstex property. Geoprobes have been placed on 2 individual private properties in Grand Bayou. Data from these geoprobes is not available yet. A 25 foot section of pipeline (from Acadian Gas’ pipeline) floated to the surface on yesterday on the edge of the pipeline right-0f-way. The pipeline was emptied previously which made it become bouyant and since the sinkhole occurred there is no earthen cover to keep the pipeline submerged. The risks associated with this incident is for workers in the sinkhole – that they don’t run into/over the floating pipe. Safety measures are being taken at the site to avoid the risk. Pictures of the floating pipe are being uploaded to our Flickr site, [link to www.flickr.com] this morning. YouTube was awfully slow yesterday and the resident briefing videos are being added as the site allows. Hopefully, all videos will be uploaded later this morning. Uncategorized6:40 a.m. Crosstex Flare October 11, 2012 / /Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an unusual flare at Crosstex. We’ve received inquiries about a well being in fire… This was a large flare and NOT a fire. Although the flare was large, we’ve been advised that it was still within normal operations. The road was closed for safety purposes while the flare was checked. The road is now open. [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] Last Edited by Patassa on 10/11/2012 11:53 AM |
| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/11/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember I told you that all of that area was water that just looked like it was solid ground? Again, there was NEVER a road over the pipeline. Nothing can be put over a pipeline once it is down. Not even dirt. One example and informative article about gas and pipelines in Michigan: [link to www.consumersenergy.com] Consumers Energy pipeline corridors Consumers Energy pipeline corridors are located on both company-owned land and rights of way (easements) obtained from other landowners. Pipeline corridors must be kept free of trees, buildings or other structures to help ensure we deliver reliable energy to Michigan homes and businesses. These and other obstacles may cause safety hazards and impede the path of emergency and repair vehicles. For public safety, the following general guidelines should be observed on all pipeline corridors: •No structures, such as buildings, sheds and swimming pools should be located in the corridor •No underground facilities, such as drain tiles, culverts, electric cables, septic systems, water wells, water or sewer lines, or similar facilities should be constructed in the corridor •No soil is to be added or removed over the pipeline •No roads should be constructed over or across the pipeline •No trees or shrubs should be planted in the corridor •No blasting should be conducted in the corridor |
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| justanothergranny User ID: 20609565 United States10/11/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Afternoon, Patassa! Granny here. Some interesting info. Thanks for the continuing updates. Just some perspective from where I live... Not sure if your info about pipelines is for gas only, and location specific, but out here in W Texas, they generally bury pipelines. Some deeper than others. But very seldom are the pipelines above-ground, and they do have roads - both paved as well as caliche - over them. I have buried pipeline on the far side of my property. It was like that when we bought the place. I've also worked as a pumper, and there are buried lines - both large and small - all over the place. THe bigger lines have right-of-ways just like was not far from the sinkhole. They are putting a new line for oil transmission across much of this area because we are producing more oil than the existin pipelines can move. Anyway, guess there may be different processes and regs depending on the location. Stay safe! TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch |
| Éireann User ID: 25142553 United States10/11/2012 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only sinkholes I've ever seen weren't filled with water? Can someone explain how the water isn't draining out of the area... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24917207 I'll try...give me aminute. I might be able to help with that even though I'm no expert on any of this sinkhole business. I posted this in another thread about people around Bayou Corne becoming sick and showing signs of poisoning. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts Gas pipeline found floating in giant sinkhole (PHOTOS) Quoting: Earth Cries [link to enenews.com] Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an unusual flare at Crosstex. We’ve received inquiries about a well being in fire… This was a large flare and NOT a fire. Although the flare was large, we’ve been advised that it was still within normal operations. The road was closed for safety purposes while the flare was checked. The road is now open. [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] I sincerely believe they are scared shitless of what will happen when they start flaring. I do too, Earth Cries. I'm no Physics Major, but I do know the law that says Space abhors a vacuum meaning that when you take something out of a space, something has to come in to fill the void. Now compare this to all of the bubble spots all over the Bayou Corne area and the surrounding areas. I could be totally wrong here, but the only thing that can fill the void left by the escaping gas is the ground above as we are seeing happening with the ever expanding sinkhole. When they drilled Well B out in the Gulf, BP and Mancado KNEW the shelf was unstable. The seabed there is the beginning of the North American NG pool that goes all through the Midwest, Texas (almost to West Central Texas), and up into the Great Lakes and Canada in Ontario where the St. Lawrence river acts as a geographical national boundary between Canada and the US. I don't know what they think they are doing? The topological maps show the area where they are going to start venting this supposed 5ft plume of methane as being over 1400 ft deep...I mean the depth of the salt dome near it. So only a 5ft plume? Really? And the guy in the second video Alexis posted clearly said that the crude being found in the sinkhole could very well be from the Gulf. Really? Well no shit! Check the flow of the Aquifer under all of those hydrocarbons. It flows North North West out of the Gulf then turns North North East all along that lovely New Madrid fault line. I say again. When you take something out of a space, something rushes in to fill it. Just like a Thunderstorm. The Thunder is actually the sound made by air rushing in to fill the void left by the discharge of particles which we call lightning. They keep playing this down like it's no big deal, but I'm telling you, these "experts" don't have a clue what is going to happen nor what is happening nor how to stop it. Here is the link to the videos that Alexis posted in the other thread I referenced here. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts (Page 2) Last Edited by Eireann on 10/11/2012 04:09 PM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
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| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/11/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Afternoon, Patassa! Granny here. Quoting: justanothergranny Some interesting info. Thanks for the continuing updates. Just some perspective from where I live... Not sure if your info about pipelines is for gas only, and location specific, but out here in W Texas, they generally bury pipelines. Some deeper than others. But very seldom are the pipelines above-ground, and they do have roads - both paved as well as caliche - over them. I have buried pipeline on the far side of my property. It was like that when we bought the place. I've also worked as a pumper, and there are buried lines - both large and small - all over the place. THe bigger lines have right-of-ways just like was not far from the sinkhole. They are putting a new line for oil transmission across much of this area because we are producing more oil than the existin pipelines can move. Anyway, guess there may be different processes and regs depending on the location. Stay safe! Hi granny and thanks for that info. I didn't spend much time on it, and couldn't find anything from Louisiana on it. I know I've seen them buried. Even these 2 at the road are underground, but they def don't have roads built over them. All of that area is so soggy, it is no suprise they floated up since they only have air in them. |
| Patassa (OP) User ID: 21916852 United States10/11/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only sinkholes I've ever seen weren't filled with water? Can someone explain how the water isn't draining out of the area... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24917207 I'll try...give me aminute. I might be able to help with that even though I'm no expert on any of this sinkhole business. I posted this in another thread about people around Bayou Corne becoming sick and showing signs of poisoning. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts Gas pipeline found floating in giant sinkhole (PHOTOS) Quoting: Earth Cries [link to enenews.com] Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an unusual flare at Crosstex. We’ve received inquiries about a well being in fire… This was a large flare and NOT a fire. Although the flare was large, we’ve been advised that it was still within normal operations. The road was closed for safety purposes while the flare was checked. The road is now open. [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] I sincerely believe they are scared shitless of what will happen when they start flaring. I do too, Earth Cries. I'm no Physics Major, but I do know the law that says Space abhors a vacuum meaning that when you take something out of a space, something has to come in to fill the void. Now compare this to all of the bubble spots all over the Bayou Corne area and the surrounding areas. I could be totally wrong here, but the only thing that can fill the void left by the escaping gas is the ground above as we are seeing happening with the ever expanding sinkhole. When they drilled Well B out in the Gulf, BP and Mancado KNEW the shelf was unstable. The seabed there is the beginning of the North American NG pool that goes all through the Midwest, Texas (almost to West Central Texas), and up into the Great Lakes and Canada in Ontario where the St. Lawrence river acts as a geographical national boundary between Canada and the US. I don't know what they think they are doing? The topological maps show the area where they are going to start venting this supposed 5ft plume of methane as being over 1400 ft deep...I mean the depth of the salt dome near it. So only a 5ft plume? Really? And the guy in the second video Alexis posted clearly said that the crude being found in the sinkhole could very well be from the Gulf. Really? Well no shit! Check the flow of the Aquifer under all of those hydrocarbons. It flows North North West out of the Gulf then turns North North East all along that lovely New Madrid fault line. I say again. When you take something out of a space, something rushes in to fill it. Just like a Thunderstorm. The Thunder is actually the sound made by air rushing in to fill the void left by the discharge of particles which we call lightning. They keep playing this down like it's no big deal, but I'm telling you, these "experts" don't have a clue what is going to happen nor what is happening nor how to stop it. Here is the link to the videos that Alexis posted in the other thread I referenced here. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts (Page 2) I don't get what you are trying to say. Flaring is done all the time. They are now and have been flaring the damaged cavern ever since they entered it to keep the PSI at around 960. Not trying to be snarky, but is your background in all of this more advanced than The Shaw Group? |
| Éireann User ID: 25142553 United States10/11/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only sinkholes I've ever seen weren't filled with water? Can someone explain how the water isn't draining out of the area... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24917207 I'll try...give me aminute. I might be able to help with that even though I'm no expert on any of this sinkhole business. I posted this in another thread about people around Bayou Corne becoming sick and showing signs of poisoning. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts Gas pipeline found floating in giant sinkhole (PHOTOS) Quoting: Earth Cries [link to enenews.com] Hwy 70 was periodically closed earlier due to an unusual flare at Crosstex. We’ve received inquiries about a well being in fire… This was a large flare and NOT a fire. Although the flare was large, we’ve been advised that it was still within normal operations. The road was closed for safety purposes while the flare was checked. The road is now open. [link to assumptionla.wordpress.com] I sincerely believe they are scared shitless of what will happen when they start flaring. I do too, Earth Cries. I'm no Physics Major, but I do know the law that says Space abhors a vacuum meaning that when you take something out of a space, something has to come in to fill the void. Now compare this to all of the bubble spots all over the Bayou Corne area and the surrounding areas. I could be totally wrong here, but the only thing that can fill the void left by the escaping gas is the ground above as we are seeing happening with the ever expanding sinkhole. When they drilled Well B out in the Gulf, BP and Mancado KNEW the shelf was unstable. The seabed there is the beginning of the North American NG pool that goes all through the Midwest, Texas (almost to West Central Texas), and up into the Great Lakes and Canada in Ontario where the St. Lawrence river acts as a geographical national boundary between Canada and the US. I don't know what they think they are doing? The topological maps show the area where they are going to start venting this supposed 5ft plume of methane as being over 1400 ft deep...I mean the depth of the salt dome near it. So only a 5ft plume? Really? And the guy in the second video Alexis posted clearly said that the crude being found in the sinkhole could very well be from the Gulf. Really? Well no shit! Check the flow of the Aquifer under all of those hydrocarbons. It flows North North West out of the Gulf then turns North North East all along that lovely New Madrid fault line. I say again. When you take something out of a space, something rushes in to fill it. Just like a Thunderstorm. The Thunder is actually the sound made by air rushing in to fill the void left by the discharge of particles which we call lightning. They keep playing this down like it's no big deal, but I'm telling you, these "experts" don't have a clue what is going to happen nor what is happening nor how to stop it. Here is the link to the videos that Alexis posted in the other thread I referenced here. Thread: Louisiana Sinkhole gas flaring to begin, number of people suffering poisoning mounts (Page 2) I don't get what you are trying to say. Flaring is done all the time. They are now and have been flaring the damaged cavern ever since they entered it to keep the PSI at around 960. Not trying to be snarky, but is your background in all of this more advanced than The Shaw Group? You're not being snarky :) This forum is for debate and education and you are doing exactly what you should be doing. Pointing out the flaws in my logic so I can reassess my understanding. No, I definitely don't know more than the Shaw Group. Definitely not. I guess what I'm getting at is why are more areas of gas bubbling out of the water around the sinkhole and miles from the sinkhole increasing in number if the area the sinkhole is in is the only problem we are told exists. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25192789 United States10/11/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not trying to be snarky, but is your background in all of this more advanced than The Shaw Group? Quoting: Patassa "The Shaw Group Inc. (NYSE:SHAW) is a leading global provider of engineering, construction, technology, fabrication, remediation and support services for clients in the energy, chemicals, environmental, infrastructure and emergency response industries. A Fortune 500 company with fiscal year 2011 " |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25192789 United States10/11/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW. I just watched two videos of the sinkhole -- one from August one from the other day. In that time THAT THING HAS QUADRUPLED IN SIZE! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12678529 They predicted in the beginning that it could grow to 1400 feet. the stupid sinkhole is not important. the sinkhole is merely a symptom of the real larger problem: which is the motherload of natural gas that is engulfing all of southern louisiana. |
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