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This is All a Setup!! The "White Horse Prophesy" and Mitt Romney

 
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This is All a Setup!! The "White Horse Prophesy" and Mitt Romney
This is one of the most frightening things Ive read about the man who will soon be President. It is a long article so I encourage you all to just go straight to the source and begin reading.


by William Schnoebelen - Former Satanist, Mason, and Mormon


I spent five years in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormons). During that time I was highly active in church functions and priesthood offices. I held a “temple recommend” and went to the temple many times. This was from 1980-1985.

During this time, I developed friendships with many LDS people. Mitt Romney, like most of the people I met, is a fine, upstanding man of apparently sterling character. If his religious faith is not taken into account, Mr. Romney is probably better qualified than most other presidential candidates in this election cycle, from whatever party.

However, with the LDS church, things are never as they seem. When I was in the church, we were taught many things about the “Mormon Plan for America”. These were doctrines that were not so much widely discussed outside the Church, because they were somewhat radical or even revolutionary in nature.

At the time, I was a member of what was called The Freeman Institute. This was a group founded by BYU Professor and FBI Agent W. Cleon Skousen. This was not an officially recognized LDS group, but rather a quasi-political body of deeply conservative stripe. Skousen's name is well known among 20th century right wingers. His conservative credentials are impeccable and he is the author of several highly regarded books, including THE NAKED CAPITALIST and THE NAKED COMMUNIST. He is well-known among groups such as the John Birch Society......

[link to www.cuttingedge.org]
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I dont usually say this but this needs to be super pinned till the election.
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I was mormon for 18 years it sickens and scares me that one of them could be president. There is a big difference between there public image and the real church. The temple in Salt Lake City has its own oval office they are totally prepared to take over all functions of goverment.
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I was mormon for 18 years it sickens and scares me that one of them could be president. There is a big difference between there public image and the real church. The temple in Salt Lake City has its own oval office they are totally prepared to take over all functions of goverment.
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Read the end of the article, the temple you speak of is in Washington

"We will end with one final eerie note which I cannot prove, but which I will share. When I was a temple Mormon and doing temple work in the Washington DC temple in Silver Springs, Maryland [c. 1983], I had a conversation with a fellow LDS priesthood holder. He was a member of the US Treasury department and a Secret Service agent.

He was obviously very proud of the temple, which was indeed an awesome 20 million dollar structure (in 1970 dollars!) of white, glistening marble. He shared with me that very few knew what was on the fifth floor of the temple. I asked him what was up there, because even worthy temple LDS were not allowed on that floor.

He told me that there was a council room up there which was an exact replica of the Oval Office of the White House. He told me they even had all the radio and telemetry equipment in place, hidden beneath a dome on top of the temple. He said that from this council room, the prophet could run the nation just as easily as he could from the White House itself. He also claimed that these electronic devices on the roof were so strong that airlines had to avoid flying right over the temple or their instruments might be thrown off.

I cannot vouch for the truthfulness of this story. But Mormons normally do not lie, and this man seemed genuinely proud of this achievement – the setting up of a shadow “White House” within the confines of one of Mormonism's holiest sanctuaries.

I share this partly because it illustrates what LDS truly believe to be the destiny of their religion in this land. Just the very fact that this priesthood holder chose to share this story says volumes about the LDS view of their destiny. Whether the story is accurate or not, it shows that this man, who was in charge of protecting our president, believed that Mormons would one day rule the US (and thence the world) from the Washington temple.
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I was mormon for 18 years it sickens and scares me that one of them could be president. There is a big difference between there public image and the real church. The temple in Salt Lake City has its own oval office they are totally prepared to take over all functions of goverment.
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Read the end of the article, the temple you speak of is in Washington

"We will end with one final eerie note which I cannot prove, but which I will share. When I was a temple Mormon and doing temple work in the Washington DC temple in Silver Springs, Maryland [c. 1983], I had a conversation with a fellow LDS priesthood holder. He was a member of the US Treasury department and a Secret Service agent.

He was obviously very proud of the temple, which was indeed an awesome 20 million dollar structure (in 1970 dollars!) of white, glistening marble. He shared with me that very few knew what was on the fifth floor of the temple. I asked him what was up there, because even worthy temple LDS were not allowed on that floor.

He told me that there was a council room up there which was an exact replica of the Oval Office of the White House. He told me they even had all the radio and telemetry equipment in place, hidden beneath a dome on top of the temple. He said that from this council room, the prophet could run the nation just as easily as he could from the White House itself. He also claimed that these electronic devices on the roof were so strong that airlines had to avoid flying right over the temple or their instruments might be thrown off.

I cannot vouch for the truthfulness of this story. But Mormons normally do not lie, and this man seemed genuinely proud of this achievement – the setting up of a shadow “White House” within the confines of one of Mormonism's holiest sanctuaries.

I share this partly because it illustrates what LDS truly believe to be the destiny of their religion in this land. Just the very fact that this priesthood holder chose to share this story says volumes about the LDS view of their destiny. Whether the story is accurate or not, it shows that this man, who was in charge of protecting our president, believed that Mormons would one day rule the US (and thence the world) from the Washington temple.
 Quoting: Intruth


Yes I know of this I just had the wrong temple. The family I married into is ofcourse descendants of Joesph Smith which alot of families are regardless I am VERY familiar with this prophecy. When I was little they taught us this in primary.
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This snippet also concerned me, especially after doing a little research on Mormonism and their belief that blacks came from Lucifer. More fuel to the fire of racial riots if elected. [link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

"Like his father, George Romney -- who ran unsuccessfully for president a generation ago (1968) -- Mitt is a high priest in the Church priesthood hierarchy. What cost George Romney the candidacy was the LDS Church's stand on race. Until 1978, the LDS Church taught that black people were “loathsome, filthy and lazy” (Mormon leaders' words, NOT mine) and that no black could ever hold the priesthood until all white men had received it. But, in 1978, the Church received a “revelation” changing that teaching. However, young Mitt Romney grew up believing this loathsome doctrine about blacks! That belief alone might be cause for concern.
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Like I always say, LDS is just like the masons and is made of up secret societies within secret societies... The actual power structure is hidden behind smoke and mirrors while the common followers have no idea what is going on.
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
:abomb::abomb::abomb:
BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Like I always say, LDS is just like the masons and is made of up secret societies within secret societies... The actual power structure is hidden behind smoke and mirrors while the common followers have no idea what is going on.
 Quoting: Billy_Sastard


another snippet from the article;

Believe it or not, Smith established a highly secret “Council of Fifty” which was called the “Council of Ytfif” to outsiders (fifty spelled backwards). With these fifty men, some of whom were not even LDS, he intended to set up the foundations for a secret government of the United States with himself as its head. Ironically enough, one of the LDS splinter groups which broke away from Brigham Young after Smith's assassination established a similar council in rural Wisconsin. They called it “The Illuminati!”
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SICK of the Anti Mormon false fear mongering stuff.


SERIOUSLY the Mormon Church and it's adherents are boring happy people.



Go to the source for CLEAN water.
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Yes. Mormonism is basically freemasonry and all the secret society mystery religion with a Christian front. Apostate Christianity.

We'll see what happens. But it's between a supposedly gay muslim or a Mormon playing the part in the secret societies that everyone now knows something about. It's all a sham....
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What's strange is that article was written in 2007. Did Romney run in the last election?
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SICK of the Anti Mormon false fear mongering stuff.


SERIOUSLY the Mormon Church and it's adherents are boring happy people.



Go to the source for CLEAN water.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25256408


shill
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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BRING ON THE DOOM!!!
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Apparently Romney sees himself as the fulfillment of the White Horse Prophesy of St Johns book of Revelation chapter 6.
I found another excellent article on this but GLP will not let me post a daily Koss link.
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You will just have to google the article
It's called

"White Horse Prophesy" and the revelation of St. John the Divine Chapter 6
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I too am a former member of the LDS Church, the Mormons. OP is way off base. I too heard about the White Horse Prophecy as I was growing up, but was always taught it was not "gospel" and not Church doctrine. As OP and other former members should remember, the Mormon church has an unpaid and very amatuer clergy. While well meaning, some will go off the reservation and preach unvetted and certainly unratified doctrines that simply are not part of Mormon doctrine. These same folks are usually reminded to stick to the scriptures and lesson manuals. Many current and former LDS Church leaders have written books, but very, very few have been accepted as Church doctrine. While Cleon Skouson is much loved by many far right wing Mormons, he is not embraced by the church as a whole.

Most of my family and friends remain active and devout Mormons. Most of them are supportive of Romney because he is a good decent honorable man who loves the constitution and believes the US can again be the light of the world. I am still in the circle - no one, and I mean no one is talking about the White Horse Prophecy, except for the very few on the fringe, including OP.
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I too am a former member of the LDS Church, the Mormons. OP is way off base. I too heard about the White Horse Prophecy as I was growing up, but was always taught it was not "gospel" and not Church doctrine. As OP and other former members should remember, the Mormon church has an unpaid and very amatuer clergy. While well meaning, some will go off the reservation and preach unvetted and certainly unratified doctrines that simply are not part of Mormon doctrine. These same folks are usually reminded to stick to the scriptures and lesson manuals. Many current and former LDS Church leaders have written books, but very, very few have been accepted as Church doctrine. While Cleon Skouson is much loved by many far right wing Mormons, he is not embraced by the church as a whole.

Most of my family and friends remain active and devout Mormons. Most of them are supportive of Romney because he is a good decent honorable man who loves the constitution and believes the US can again be the light of the world. I am still in the circle - no one, and I mean no one is talking about the White Horse Prophecy, except for the very few on the fringe, including OP.
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Thank you for your post. I am not Mormon nor am I an expert on your doctrine. The articles point as well as Wikipedia say exactly what you just said. There are fringe false prophets even threw out the mainstream church. That we need to find out is what does Romney think he is. There is a white horse prophesy in Rev 6, but that guy represents the antichrist.
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This snippet also concerned me, especially after doing a little research on Mormonism and their belief that blacks came from Lucifer. More fuel to the fire of racial riots if elected. [link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

"Like his father, George Romney -- who ran unsuccessfully for president a generation ago (1968) -- Mitt is a high priest in the Church priesthood hierarchy. What cost George Romney the candidacy was the LDS Church's stand on race. Until 1978, the LDS Church taught that black people were “loathsome, filthy and lazy” (Mormon leaders' words, NOT mine) and that no black could ever hold the priesthood until all white men had received it. But, in 1978, the Church received a “revelation” changing that teaching. However, young Mitt Romney grew up believing this loathsome doctrine about blacks! That belief alone might be cause for concern.
 Quoting: Intruth


What caused his downfall georges was he told the truth about vietnam, he stated after his trip thier " we were brainwashed".. it finished his race for pres.. george was a good guy...
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What's strange is that article was written in 2007. Did Romney run in the last election?
 Quoting: Intruth


Yes.
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We'll I'd say that not one thing, NOTHING that you are fear mongering about is even close to the woes we will face with 4 more years of the muslim kenyan's rule.

Mormon's may believe some whacky shit, but I never met a mormon I didn't like. The average mormon is way more upstanding than the average non mormon.

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