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THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS

 
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the new testiment was written by romans... john of patmos was actually scottish.

they started christianity for thier own gain and interests.
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wtf
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surprised?
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More Jewish than you'll ever be

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aahh the rotting shield... my family blood line comes from yemen, persia and iraq. my family is from the tribe of judah.
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Your family blood line comes from Khazaria you stupid gentile. cruise
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yeah... im so white and pale, not! im brown therefore i cannot be from khazaria.

the yiddish jews (rotting shields) are the khazarians.

my mother is half yemenite half persian, my father family comes from iraq
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The true Yehudi are white. The 'lost' sheep of Israel are also white. You are probably descended from converts in Esters time, it was very popular to be a Yehudi back then and many converted.
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the new testiment was written by romans... john of patmos was actually scottish.

they started christianity for thier own gain and interests.
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wtf
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surprised?
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Link?
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At this time, we wish to illuminate your minds regarding the real story of Jesus Christ. It is important to note that the allegorical story line of one being sacrificed to heal the sins of the masses did not originate with the events 2000 years ago, but is a theme that has been repeated many times throughout history, long before the man you know as Jesus was carried to the cross. If you dig into the history of different cultures, you will find other such icons whose stories are very similar to that of Jesus. The idea that a savior died for your sins, and the playing out of that drama in a form similar to Jesus, is an attempt by the "dark lords" to get humanity to place the blame outside of themselves in order to keep their problems from being solved.

Let’s get this straight. Nobody can ever die for your sins, beloveds. That is for two reasons. (1) You have free will and are responsible for everything you do; and (2) There is no such thing as an unpardonable error or an error that causes you to be defective. You are as perfect as the day God created you, and you will always be perfect and innocent and holy. Lord Sananda, in his book set, "A Course In Miracles" made that very clear.

There are some factual aspects to the story as told in the New Testament of the Bible, but there are many distortions. Allow us to elaborate.

The soul known as Jesus was a direct fragment of the Sananda lineage. In other words, Sananda was the oversoul of Jesus. Sananda, having watched as humankind once again floundered in sorrow and ignorance, and having a desire to intervene in the affairs of man in a way that respected free will, incarnated in approximately 39 B.C., as the son of Joseph and Mary. This much is in general agreement with the biblical story. Jesus' birth date was approximately March 31st.

Lord Sananda, an eighth density celestial being, incarnated as Jeshua, or Joshua, depending on whose translation you use. Being from eighth density, he retained many of his spiritual abilities, despite the very dense environment he was born into. As a young child he was very psychic and foresaw many of the events that would later come to pass. Mary and Joseph were at odds with the political establishment to some degree, and they were NOT married when Mary became pregnant. The "virgin birth" story is made up. Certain ET factions have the capabilities of impregnating women without going through normal sexual means, but in this case Jeshua came in through normal means.

To avoid the social and political consequences of giving birth out of wedlock, and to remove themselves from the oppressive beliefs of the authorities, Mary and Joseph migrated toward Galilee, and eventually near the Dead Sea, where they briefly took refuge with the Essenes. Mary and Joseph left Jeshua in their care and returned to Galilee. Jeshua later joined the Essene Order. He spent three years building temples and housing for the Essenes, while attending their sacred teachings and learning the Essene way. Along the banks of the Dead Sea, Jeshua learned to have respect for Mother Earth and had a hand in helping bring the much-needed rain, scarce in that region. The Essenes were strict vegetarians and taught a respect for all life forms. They were regarded as strange and anti-social by the governments of the land, but were left largely alone, as they seemed to pose no threat, and always paid their taxes, even though they did not believe in such matters.

When Jeshua turned about 16, he and a group of fellow Essenes traveled East to India, where he met several Indian gurus and saints. He studied for about two years with a guru, who taught him a great deal about the mysteries of life. When he returned (and during a dangerous visit to see his parents in Galilee), he met and fell in love with Mary Magdalene, who was a dancer and entertainer, and only very briefly prostituted herself when times were tough. Mary M and Jeshua were deeply in love with each other and had a child. Because they were not married, they too became social outlaws. Some of Jeshua's Essene friends allowed Mary M to stay at the temples with Jeshua, against the rules of the elders. Jeshua, Mary M and their young son traveled to India a second time, where the child was blessed by the gurus. Word got out that Mary M had an illegitimate child, although nobody seemed to know the father (outside of the Essenes). Fearing for the child's life, Mary M and Jeshua left the child temporarily in the care of an Indian saint, and returned to Galilee. It was a few years later before they could return to India, and although they missed their son terribly, they knew he was all right.

Mary M and Jeshua paid another visit to their son a few years later, but he remained in the care of the Indian saints when they returned. The political climate was too unstable to risk bringing the child back with them to Galilee. Despite the short time they spent with their son, their influence helped him greatly as he grew up in India. Their son became a wise sage and his teachings added significantly to the climate of India.

Jeshua received several visions from spirit and his soul family and was told to teach higher spiritual principles to anyone who would listen sincerely. He began teaching earnestly in his late twenties, and gathered quite a following. At one point he had about fifty disciples. He and Mary M kept their relationship and child a complete secret, not even discussing this with the closest disciples. Being highly clairvoyant, Jeshua saw that the authorities would eventually kill him, but he was told by his own God Self to stay his course and teach as many people as possible the ways of spirit.

Jeshua's teachings were highly distorted in the Bible, but a few truths managed to get through. He taught that we are all created in the image and likeness of our Creator, and that we all have the abilities he demonstrated. He taught us to love one another and to forgive our enemies. He did NOT teach that the way to God was through him alone. Several of his disciples learned how to use their spiritual gifts of healing and clairvoyance, and there are ample stories in the Bible of John going on to perform similar healings. The story of Jeshua's involvement in the Melchizedek priesthood is also in the Bible, in Hebrews Chapter 7. Once Jeshua reached a certain level of awareness, his cosmic family in the celestial realms began communicating with him and reminding him of his position within the Melchizedek priesthood.

When Jeshua was brought to the cross, he immediately left his body consciously, instead of suffering for three days as is taught erroneously. During his life he continually "forgave them for they knew not what they did". After leaving his body, he holographically projected himself back into human form to appear to his disciples and Mary M on numerous occasions. The body left the tomb because grave robbers stole it. He had no need to resurrect it, as he was already able to materialize a new body once he returned to eighth density.

Lord Sananda has fragmented his soul several more times throughout history. At the present time, there are eight fragments of Sananda on the Earth. Some of these souls believe they are Jesus, and to a certain extent they are correct. All great souls are capable of fragmenting themselves dozens of times in order to do service work on lower density planets. Usually oversouls fragment into 12 souls at a time, but this is not set in stone. Many fragments remain in the higher densities to guide the fragments in the lower worlds. The term “fragment” does not mean incomplete or partial. Each of these fragments is a complete and sovereign being. This channel uses the cell dividing analogy to explain this in his writings.

The "Second Coming of Christ" refers to the return to Christ consciousness, or the celestial consciousness of higher densities. This was correctly interpreted by your Paramahansa Yogananda and many other yogis and saints. As most of you know, traditional Christianity has very little to do with the teachings of Jeshua, and a whole lot to do with sin and guilt. Fortunately, many souls are expanding their awareness beyond these primitive beliefs. We the Founders are grateful to see so many truly doing the "greater works" that Jeshua taught.

During this brief look at the work of Jeshua, we only touched briefly on Mary M and the divine feminine, and spoke hardly a word about Mother Mary. There are numerous channeled articles on these beings and we do not wish to duplicate the information.

We hope we have set the record straight on the lifetime of the one you call Jesus. We are the Founders.

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aahh the rotting shield... my family blood line comes from yemen, persia and iraq. my family is from the tribe of judah.
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Your family blood line comes from Khazaria you stupid gentile. cruise
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yeah... im so white and pale, not! im brown therefore i cannot be from khazaria.

the yiddish jews (rotting shields) are the khazarians.

my mother is half yemenite half persian, my father family comes from iraq
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The true Yehudi are white. The 'lost' sheep of Israel are also white. You are probably descended from converts in Esters time, it was very popular to be a Yehudi back then and many converted.
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yeah ok...

israel with its european weather best suits whites... man use your head.

abraham came from iraq as well. the homeland of whites...

your talking nonsense
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the new testiment was written by romans... john of patmos was actually scottish.

they started christianity for thier own gain and interests.
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wtf
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surprised?
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Link?
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Hey
I am the only living God on the earth.
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Your family blood line comes from Khazaria you stupid gentile. cruise
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yeah... im so white and pale, not! im brown therefore i cannot be from khazaria.

the yiddish jews (rotting shields) are the khazarians.

my mother is half yemenite half persian, my father family comes from iraq
 Quoting: DPS


The true Yehudi are white. The 'lost' sheep of Israel are also white. You are probably descended from converts in Esters time, it was very popular to be a Yehudi back then and many converted.
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yeah ok...

israel with its european weather best suits whites... man use your head.

abraham came from iraq as well. the homeland of whites...

your talking nonsense
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Many Caucasians live in Israel and are just fine. I know Abraham came from Iraq but so what. Our skin color just changed as a result of our climates.
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wtf
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surprised?
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Link?
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Thread: Hi-Ram Abiff: The Conspiracy of St John the Scot Divine
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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yeah... im so white and pale, not! im brown therefore i cannot be from khazaria.

the yiddish jews (rotting shields) are the khazarians.

my mother is half yemenite half persian, my father family comes from iraq
 Quoting: DPS


The true Yehudi are white. The 'lost' sheep of Israel are also white. You are probably descended from converts in Esters time, it was very popular to be a Yehudi back then and many converted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25271890


yeah ok...

israel with its european weather best suits whites... man use your head.

abraham came from iraq as well. the homeland of whites...

your talking nonsense
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Many Caucasians live in Israel and are just fine. I know Abraham came from Iraq but so what. Our skin color just changed as a result of our climates.
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heres the deal... hebrews are originally brown.

some where exiled to north africa and middle east thus having thier skin color unchanged. some were exiled to europe, so 2000 years living in cold europe is enough to make thier skin go brighter.

you were the one claiming im not jew just because im not white.
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surprised?
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Link?
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Thread: Hi-Ram Abiff: The Conspiracy of St John the Scot Divine
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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God transplanted the throne of David over to Ireland, we even have the harp as our national symbol.

Read this.

[link to www.henrymakow.com]

For those interested in prophecy, the book of Ezekiel talks about these events, saying:

21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when inequity shall have an end,

21:26 Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the diadem (sovereignty), and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.

21:27 I will overturn (1st), overturn (2nd), overturn (3rd), it: and it shall be no more, overturned (4th) UNTIL he come whose Right it is; and I will give it him - Shiloh (Gen. 49:10).

To understand all the details of the Stone's full history, the reference link above will need to be looked at, but three of the overturns have already come and gone, and the fourth overturn began in 1950 when the Stone was taken from Elizabeth, but has not been completed yet.

Overturn 1: From Jerusalem to Ireland (Hill of Tara) in 6th century BC.

Overturn 2: From Ireland to Scotland (first Argyll, then Dunstaffnage) around 5th century AD.

Overturn 3: From Scotland to England (London - Westminster Abbey) in 1296 AD.

4th and Final Overturn: Began when the Stone was taken from Westminster Abbey in 1950 AD.
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Link?
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Thread: Hi-Ram Abiff: The Conspiracy of St John the Scot Divine
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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No it doesn't. Just Paul/Saul the false Prophet. Yeshua was pro-law as were all his Apostles.
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Link?
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Thread: Hi-Ram Abiff: The Conspiracy of St John the Scot Divine
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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44He said to them, This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms. Luke 24
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Link?
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Thread: Hi-Ram Abiff: The Conspiracy of St John the Scot Divine
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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what about you? I think we, christians, are clearly influenced by the NT. What about you? Tell me this can you translate the ancient word KVD?
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Can someone please tell me WHICH BIBLE should I pick-up to confirm the Christian version of Jesus's story?




THANK YOU
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kvd- chav vav dalet. 20-6-4 means heavy, liver, (to) respect and honor

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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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what about you? I think we, christians, are clearly influenced by the NT. What about you? Tell me this can you translate the ancient word KVD?
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FACT: TRUST NONE OF TH EBOOKS...they both have been changed by the hands of man. PROOF: See the first pages of any bible or Torah (Intro section)...it will clearly tell you of the editions after editions, revisions etc.
PEACE
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Can someone please tell me WHICH BIBLE should I pick-up to confirm the Christian version of Jesus's story?




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[link to bible.cc]
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kvd- chav vav dalet. 20-6-4 means heavy, liver, (to) respect and honor
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heavy, this is a problem , because if the glory of Yahweh is heavy, and it could have killed Moses unless would have hidden behind some rocks...we can say it's some sort of a machine? and didn't rabbi rashi say that the true meaning of the 'kvd' should be told only to a few persons?
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Well the Bible says otherwise so I will trust in that.
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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what about you? I think we, christians, are clearly influenced by the NT. What about you? Tell me this can you translate the ancient word KVD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311838




FACT: TRUST NONE OF TH EBOOKS...they both have been changed by the hands of man. PROOF: See the first pages of any bible or Torah (Intro section)...it will clearly tell you of the editions after editions, revisions etc.
PEACE
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I agree, we should just trust God. In my opinion "do onto others what you want others to do to you" is the essential.
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kvd- chav vav dalet. 20-6-4 means heavy, liver, (to) respect and honor
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heavy, this is a problem , because if the glory of Yahweh is heavy, and it could have killed Moses unless would have hidden behind some rocks...we can say it's some sort of a machine? and didn't rabbi rashi say that the true meaning of the 'kvd' should be told only to a few persons?
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another ancient psyconaut?

kaved- its heavy it decents from the upper realms to the lower physical plane.

your liver also houses the evil side of spirituality in your body
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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what about you? I think we, christians, are clearly influenced by the NT. What about you? Tell me this can you translate the ancient word KVD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311838




FACT: TRUST NONE OF TH EBOOKS...they both have been changed by the hands of man. PROOF: See the first pages of any bible or Torah (Intro section)...it will clearly tell you of the editions after editions, revisions etc.
PEACE
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I agree, we should just trust God. In my opinion "do onto others what you want others to do to you" is the essential.
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actually... you are right. if you ask any rabbi the explain the torah in one sentance. thats what theyll say
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the new testiment contradicts the tanach... so which one will you trust?
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what about you? I think we, christians, are clearly influenced by the NT. What about you? Tell me this can you translate the ancient word KVD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311838




FACT: TRUST NONE OF TH EBOOKS...they both have been changed by the hands of man. PROOF: See the first pages of any bible or Torah (Intro section)...it will clearly tell you of the editions after editions, revisions etc.
PEACE
 Quoting: truth 1307494


I agree, we should just trust God. In my opinion "do onto others what you want others to do to you" is the essential.
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YES...


"In the name of GOD, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.

All praise and thanks are to GOD,[The] Creator, Owner, Sustainer of the Worlds.

The Entirely Merciful, The Especially Merciful.

Owner of the Day of Recompense.

You alone do we worship and You alone we seek for help.

Guide us to the Straight Path.

The path of those whom Your blessings are upon, Not of those who You have cursed nor of those who have gone astray."
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if u are here, and if u have a word to say of jesus, if you think you know more than another and must say it, then you are not following "his way", that is the truth.
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jesus was a real jew who lived in judea at the time of the roman occupation of the area.

jesus never went to egypt, his mother wasnt a virgin. jesus was a student of a jewish mystic who kicked jesus out of his school because he lusted after women.

jesus wasnt a miracle worker. he knew something called PRACTICAL KABBALAH.
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May God have mercy on you. Repent for the kingdom og God is at hand
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kvd- chav vav dalet. 20-6-4 means heavy, liver, (to) respect and honor
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heavy, this is a problem , because if the glory of Yahweh is heavy, and it could have killed Moses unless would have hidden behind some rocks...we can say it's some sort of a machine? and didn't rabbi rashi say that the true meaning of the 'kvd' should be told only to a few persons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311838


another ancient psyconaut?

kaved- its heavy it decents from the upper realms to the lower physical plane.

your liver also houses the evil side of spirituality in your body
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no astronauts here. just questions. was rabbi rashi also an astronaut theory fan? liver helps me and you live, no evil side of spirituality in it.
anyway i thought jews were more open to questioning the OT. never mind.
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if u are here, and if u have a word to say of jesus, if you think you know more than another and must say it, then you are not following "his way", that is the truth.
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jesus if he existed, and it doesnt matter whether he did or didnt, was just a man much like many of us on GLP who has learned his true nature. it doesnt matter if he is real, the stories and the lessons and the metaphors in the bible can teach anybody true peace and happiness. let go of your fear. thats basically everything he taught.
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if u are here, and if u have a word to say of jesus, if you think you know more than another and must say it, then you are not following "his way", that is the truth.
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jesus if he existed, and it doesnt matter whether he did or didnt, was just a man much like many of us on GLP who has learned his true nature. it doesnt matter if he is real, the stories and the lessons and the metaphors in the bible can teach anybody true peace and happiness. let go of your fear. thats basically everything he taught.
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kvd- chav vav dalet. 20-6-4 means heavy, liver, (to) respect and honor
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heavy, this is a problem , because if the glory of Yahweh is heavy, and it could have killed Moses unless would have hidden behind some rocks...we can say it's some sort of a machine? and didn't rabbi rashi say that the true meaning of the 'kvd' should be told only to a few persons?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25311838


another ancient psyconaut?

kaved- its heavy it decents from the upper realms to the lower physical plane.

your liver also houses the evil side of spirituality in your body
 Quoting: DPS


no astronauts here. just questions. was rabbi rashi also an astronaut theory fan? liver helps me and you live, no evil side of spirituality in it.
anyway i thought jews were more open to questioning the OT. never mind.
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none of us were here if it wasnt for negetive and positive coming together

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