Any real proof that the Abrahamic religions are true? | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the reason I use Christians is because that's whom I'm mostly surrounded by on a daily basis. I've asked questions, I've been to church, etc. and none of my questions are being answered sufficiently. None of them make sense and they're all one-sided. I do feel this way about Islam, Judaism, and about every other God-worshiping religion out there. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And throwing vague Scripture at me to prove that it's foretelling our future is like saying astrological signs have traits that fit the person under that sign; although, the traits are so vague they can fit about any one's personality at different times in their daily lives. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15146787 Canada 10/09/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will never get the answer you're looking for. Just the ambiguous stuff, like, "You'll just know" "God will let you know at the right time" "Look it up in the Bible" "It's true weather you believe it or not" etc etc etc.... Just figure out a belief system that works for you. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will never get the answer you're looking for. Just the ambiguous stuff, like, "You'll just know" "God will let you know at the right time" "Look it up in the Bible" "It's true weather you believe it or not" etc etc etc.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15146787 Just figure out a belief system that works for you. No belief system works for me but the one where "I don't know anything". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25268853 United States 10/09/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you doubt the existence of god in general or are you just undecided which religion is the right one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25233034 I feel like if there is a God it's probably not a God so concerned with petty earthly affairs. I don't doubt a God in general, but I don't necessarily know if there is a God either. Then I wonder, "What is God?" God could be anything. It could be an unconscious swirling of the universe creating but not actually knowing. It could be an Alien from another Galaxy. It could be something of another dimension that did decide to create at will. It could almost be anything and everything we haven't even imagined yet being that we're only human and don't know much in general. We're hardly advanced and we only feel as great as we do about ourselves because of our egos. We can't even get passed skin colors or differences amongst us. I don't know why we're here or why people feel the need to procreate. I think there's a lot that hasn't been answered yet and I'm just not convinced to just settle for what we know now. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. People die over this. It's scary that we all have to live on a planet where people are in agreement that if you don't believe the same way you'll be tortured for eternity. 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 + years never ending. Yet we're out smiling, laughing, and helping those that we are in agreement will probably have the most excruciating and miserable existence after death for eternity. How the fuck are we supposed to reconcile with that? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 20416179 United States 10/09/2012 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no idiot for the so called creation date of 6000 years knows who god is and what his name is Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268353 Jesus already 2000 years old does not look like the dude will return any time soon That didn't even make any sense. Learn some grammar please so I can actually respond to whatever you're trying to say. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25255505 United States 10/09/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And throwing vague Scripture at me to prove that it's foretelling our future is like saying astrological signs have traits that fit the person under that sign; although, the traits are so vague they can fit about any one's personality at different times in their daily lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20416179 Old testament prophecies are not vague. They only require a knowledge of history to confirm the events happened as said. For instance; Daniel said Messiah was to come and gave the EXACT YEAR. He did this when the Hebrews were captive in the city of Babylon (Iraq) 650 BC. It was fulfilled the exact year. There are many others about, for instance, the rise and fall of Rome, and empires before, which many dont even like to talk about as it is divisive and 'steps on toes'. But, before taking upon such a study, you first need to accept Jesus is who he said, based on faith and wanting to believe. Then, you will see. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25255505 United States 10/09/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no idiot for the so called creation date of 6000 years knows who god is and what his name is Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268353 Jesus already 2000 years old does not look like the dude will return any time soon incorrect, i think. 2000 years + crucifixion 31 AD = 2031 AD. But he could return sooner! Then there is the 50 year jubilee when God allowed man 120. 120 x50 =6000 The millennial week of earth's history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20241035 United States 10/09/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. Cain was given a mark for taking his brother out into the field (world) and killing him. You're on the same path... If anyone TRULY wants to know if God is real, just ASK HIM WITH AN OPEN, HONEST HEART. Until YOU do that, realize that you are avoiding the Light and embracing the darkness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25269524 Germany 10/09/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. Cain was given a mark for taking his brother out into the field (world) and killing him. You're on the same path... If anyone TRULY wants to know if God is real, just ASK HIM WITH AN OPEN, HONEST HEART. Until YOU do that, realize that you are avoiding the Light and embracing the darkness. And you are just making things up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20241035 United States 10/09/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. Cain was given a mark for taking his brother out into the field (world) and killing him. You're on the same path... If anyone TRULY wants to know if God is real, just ASK HIM WITH AN OPEN, HONEST HEART. Until YOU do that, realize that you are avoiding the Light and embracing the darkness. And you are just making things up. You can believe what you want but I've spoken the Truth and you now have no excuse. If you want to reject God, that comes down on your head. If you want to know if He is real, just ask with an honest heart. He seeks those WHO SEEK HIM. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1082682 United States 10/09/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. Cain was given a mark for taking his brother out into the field (world) and killing him. You're on the same path... If anyone TRULY wants to know if God is real, just ASK HIM WITH AN OPEN, HONEST HEART. Until YOU do that, realize that you are avoiding the Light and embracing the darkness. And you are just making things up. Yeah, they tend to do that a lot. That's how the entire religion and their Bible was compiled. They just made shit up as they went along. Any time there is blank or a gap in an argument or discussion about their god, they fill that blank with "God did it!" or "Satan did it!" without any supporting evidence. It just comes right off the top of their head. It's called "The God of the Gaps" fallacy, and it's an argument from ignorance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25269524 Germany 10/09/2012 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if all their answers don't make sense and are one-sided, what do you think? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25268853 doesn't it make sense that it's just a cult and it's all bullshit? the more you read the bible, the more you find out it's not true. everybody knows that atheists know more about the bible than christians, the christians never really prove themselves right they just bullshit their way out of questions or force you to not ask questions, and those studying for the priesthood are most likely to leave the church because they were too truthful in their quest for biblical knowledge. they find out it was just a lie. the whole thing is a lie. christians are liars. Cain was given a mark for taking his brother out into the field (world) and killing him. You're on the same path... If anyone TRULY wants to know if God is real, just ASK HIM WITH AN OPEN, HONEST HEART. Until YOU do that, realize that you are avoiding the Light and embracing the darkness. And you are just making things up. You can believe what you want but I've spoken the Truth and you now have no excuse. If you want to reject God, that comes down on your head. If you want to know if He is real, just ask with an honest heart. He seeks those WHO SEEK HIM. I take a rational view on these things. I really don't care if god is real. I won't waste time time on an imaginary guy in the sky. It simply makes no sense to me. |
Jam User ID: 25255505 United States 10/09/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I take a rational view on these things. I really don't care if god is real. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25269524 I won't waste time time on an imaginary guy in the sky. It simply makes no sense to me. Nothing imaginary about Jesus; he was here 2000 years ago recorded by all at the time. Didn't the Germans teach you this, or was it the Soviets? |
dpepper User ID: 25268115 United States 10/09/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | discover, but the TRUTHS are not the interpretation of others. For example, it says that the People and Earth shall REST after 7 years, for one year, and the earth shall restore itself. That sort of makes sense. Then it says, certain animals shall not be eaten, such as any creature of the water that does not have scales, nor those that walk on paw. It says, humans shall have dominion over the animals.. and I think that is one of the SINGLE most reasons that humans think they can just kill animals...like they have no feelings, ect. THEN, you have Christians saying "forget the old testament", honor the new testament of Jesus...but you really cannot, as you would have to throw the entire book away. Also, WHO is GOD's chosen people? Is it REALLY anyone who seeks him, because "he/she" didn't care for anyone who wasn't a child of Israel and didn't mind destroying them, even though "he/she" made them as well. WHY weren't their hearts opened to God? |
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Jam User ID: 25255505 United States 10/09/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand the Bible! I am trying to read and Quoting: dpepper 25268115 discover, but the TRUTHS are not the interpretation of others. For example, it says that the People and Earth shall REST after 7 years, for one year, and the earth shall restore itself. That sort of makes sense. Then it says, certain animals shall not be eaten, such as any creature of the water that does not have scales, nor those that walk on paw. It says, humans shall have dominion over the animals.. and I think that is one of the SINGLE most reasons that humans think they can just kill animals...like they have no feelings, ect. THEN, you have Christians saying "forget the old testament", honor the new testament of Jesus...but you really cannot, as you would have to throw the entire book away. Also, WHO is GOD's chosen people? Is it REALLY anyone who seeks him, because "he/she" didn't care for anyone who wasn't a child of Israel and didn't mind destroying them, even though "he/she" made them as well. WHY weren't their hearts opened to God? Well, what many fail to understand is the law of Moses was that ceremonial law of ordinances, lunar calender and all, which was nailed to the cross. Now, God also wrote his ten commandment law on tables of stone - this law remains forever. It has always been as from the very beginning we are told God created in 6 days then rested the 7th day, the 4th commandment. Then, Satan lied to Eve and they went after "other gods", the 1st commandment. Then, Cain murdered Abel, the 6th commandment. The point is, God's 10C Law has been from the beginning. We are told the "wages of sin is death". This is not the first death rather the second death (Rev.20:6). No believer of God will see this second death since Jesus forgives our sin. The sacrificial system was set up before Jesus came as a system to shadow the coming savior. The entire sacrificial system of Israel was about the coming final sacrificial lamb, Jesus. Thus that system ended (Col.2:14, KJV) Israel were God's people for a time, but this was conditional on their obedience. God cant make anyone open their hearts. This is a free choice. God does not create robots. They rejected the Messiah and the Gospel went to the entire world. Many did accept Jesus at that time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405546 United States 10/09/2012 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is what I gathered over the decades of general interest and research in ancient cultural paganism. The real truth is, not a lot of it is left as evidence any more. The worlds monotheistic religious trio, Christianity-Judaism-Islam, did a good job of destroying the prior belief system. A religion that was beneficial to humans. Non biased and very supportive of peace and care to Earth, our Mother. On the darkest, longest night of the year the people would bring a tree into their dwelling. They would decorate it with candles (fire/Sun) and sacrifice precious belongings to the tree. They gifted the Tree as a token of appreciation for the Suns warmth. This was to ensure the Sun would rise again and warm the Earth in Spring. Spring time has a special meaning, more on this shortly. The people then knew the Sun would come back higher in the sky towards Spring time. It was as obvious then as it is now, remember that. The Tree is a connection to Earth so it was kept alive. Usually grown in a large pot and gently cared for as a tiny plant. At the time it was believed "gifting" the plant with fertilizer made from their own excretions linked them to the plant spiritually. As we know now, DNA is absorbed into the plant. We become one with the plant. The darkest night of the Year was a special, mystical night of great spiritual power. Equally as important as the Spring Equinox (then Easter), The Easter is the Rising of the Son God, the Sol. The Spring Equinox. Easter is the EASTer point. The birth of the cycle of Life. The Summer Solstice (Light and Life) where they celebrated freely, bonfires, large animal roasts, had fun, told stories, bonded. A time of intoxication, play, mating, watching the crops grow. This is the Southern point, the Fire Energy of Life and Spirit is strong. The Fall Equinox, Hallos Eve. When the world of the after life come to harvest the souls past on Earth that year. Death was not feared as much then and was respected as a time of passage. Maturity is respected and is still firmly alive and healthy. Also a time of Harvest and respect for the work we put into the Earth. There are many diffent ways to put it......it was a time LONG ago squashed by power hungry religion. An elite few that rulled the world with fear of God. Remember, connect with the plants near you. Give them your golden shower and they will link with you. Respect your Lifes counter part, the Tree. Trees are soul factories, you were once a Tree before you are Human. You will return a Tree as well to Live the other side of the Cycle. |
SevenThunders User ID: 15851599 United States 10/09/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The proofs are so powerful and overwhelming I'm surprised that the entire world doesn't immediately convert to faith in Jesus Christ. One in your face proof is the very existence of Israel. Do you know of any other ancient nation that has been restored in these last days according to their ancient prophesies, from thousands of years ago? .... I thought not. The very day of the arrival of Jesus in Jerusalem was precisely predicted by the prophet Daniel 500 years before it happened. Then there are answered prayers and miracles. [link to 100prophecies.org] [link to www.reasons.org] [link to www.christian-faith.com] With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible |
Jam User ID: 25255505 United States 10/09/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The founding of Israel is a DECEPTION from Rome's NWO - the biblical harlot w/seven headed empire of Revelation. Israel fulfilled no prophecies. The Gospel went to the entire world, The End. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |