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The criminals next door are scoping my house.

 
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The criminals next door are scoping my house.
They live behind me, and after their last stint in jail, seem to be very interested in my place. They keep coming out back and looking.

Is it illegal to point a shotgun from my doorway to the porch on where they are standing? I live in FL if it matters.

Thanks for info. Not interested in killing, just making sure my home is safe while my husband is at work.
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10/09/2012 09:50 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Empty out a shotgun shell and fill it with rock salt.

It makes a great 'non-lethal' reminder.
We all breathe the same air.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Empty out a shotgun shell and fill it with rock salt.

It makes a great 'non-lethal' reminder.
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Thanks hf
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Couple of dogs couldn't hurt
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
They live behind me, and after their last stint in jail, seem to be very interested in my place. They keep coming out back and looking.

Is it illegal to point a shotgun from my doorway to the porch on where they are standing? I live in FL if it matters.

Thanks for info. Not interested in killing, just making sure my home is safe while my husband is at work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25193444


That is more than likely going to get you and/or your place in a shitty situation. Get cameras and alarm system. Only point that gun at someone if you need to defend yourself and you truly have intentions on using it for that purpose.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Nip it in the bud right away. Call 911 and tell them you saw someone running out your back door on your way in tonight. You think it was your neighbors. Tell them where they live. It'll be your word against theirs, but now, the cops are familiar with them. The cops will probably go to talk to them. If they get mad at you, tell them you didn't get a good look, just thought it was them. But police have their info, they know it. And they're suspected as the number one place to go to in case of a problem at your home.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
why not trap em.

got a camera?

leave something out you don't care about, down by their place and old tool or something.

take a picture of it laying there and get a motion camera if you can.

if it comes up missing you got yourself pretty good case going already.


dogs are good too. some breed are better at watchin then others. do a search.

what about a chat with em. Not friends but friendly enough.

lot a crooks can't steal from people they like.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Nip it in the bud right away. Call 911 and tell them you saw someone running out your back door on your way in tonight. You think it was your neighbors. Tell them where they live. It'll be your word against theirs, but now, the cops are familiar with them. The cops will probably go to talk to them. If they get mad at you, tell them you didn't get a good look, just thought it was them. But police have their info, they know it. And they're suspected as the number one place to go to in case of a problem at your home.
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In my town this is called making a false report so be careful, seen people serve jail time for it.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Nip it in the bud right away. Call 911 and tell them you saw someone running out your back door on your way in tonight. You think it was your neighbors. Tell them where they live. It'll be your word against theirs, but now, the cops are familiar with them. The cops will probably go to talk to them. If they get mad at you, tell them you didn't get a good look, just thought it was them. But police have their info, they know it. And they're suspected as the number one place to go to in case of a problem at your home.
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In my town this is called making a false report so be careful, seen people serve jail time for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5859380


Yeah, I guess it's better to just wait for it to actually happen. I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more people in graves because they DIDN'T do something like this, than there are in jail for doing it.

It would have to be dark outside and happen before you turned the house lights on.

If the guy's just got out of jail, they could be on parole. One visit from the police would put them on a watch list.
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10/09/2012 10:13 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
put up security cameras hooked to a DVR and record 24/7

once they see the cameras their behavior will change. if they are really bad and you suspect they will damage the cameras then get two mounted in differnt spots pointing in same area so that if they damage one the other will capture that act.
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10/09/2012 10:20 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Criminals pick easy targets.
They are far less likely to fuck with a woman hoisting a shotgun.

I doubt they would call the cops.
I think they need to see her packing, at the very least.

Dogs are easy. Some red meat with a bunch of tranqs.
Angry woman with a 20-gauge, not so easy.
We all breathe the same air.
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10/09/2012 10:24 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
*Que dance music*

Bum Bum Bum Badum

"SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE----
TWEAKERS ARE WATCHINGGGGG MEEEEEEEEE,
ALWAYS SCOPING MY PROPERTYYY."

Get to know your neighbors.
It cant hurt.
Bring them in ice cold Mickeys and shoot the shit,
You fear the unknown.
If they really are tweakers though you gotta draw the line.

Shooting off some shells filled with rock salt for no apparent reason is a good way to end up in jail yourself, then you might find yourself in a similar position one day, and a shell filled with salt is NOT non lethal, at least not to a court of law.

Yes sometimes people look in your yard If they live behind you. Get used to or move to BFE.
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10/09/2012 10:27 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Set a trap.
Leave the back door open and lights out. When they cross the threshold blast there kneecaps off
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10/09/2012 10:30 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Criminals pick easy targets.
They are far less likely to fuck with a woman hoisting a shotgun.

I doubt they would call the cops.
I think they need to see her packing, at the very least.

Dogs are easy. Some red meat with a bunch of tranqs.
Angry woman with a 20-gauge, not so easy.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


See, this is my thought. I have dogs, and they bark at anything but the bad guys. Big fail. The one dog would do major damage, though I think the criminal would have to be threatening.

The shotgun will be getting cleaned on the back porch tomorrow.

Thanks for your reply!,
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10/09/2012 10:31 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
wait till they are tweeked out one night and set their house on fire.
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10/09/2012 10:31 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Empty out a shotgun shell and fill it with rock salt.

It makes a great 'non-lethal' reminder.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


Why the fuck would you want non-lethal? Kill the fuckers first chance you get.

I lock my door for your protection not mine.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
burglars usually dont "hot prowl" (go into a house with occupants). so flashing a shotgun only tells them you have shit worth stealing (ghetto folks dont mind stolen firearms). if they're the "home invasion robbery" types, then you basically just tell them to kill you in your yard or at your front door if you flash arms. only idiots think showing a firearm is some kind of deterrant. pointing it at them on their back porch is a declaration of war. then you have to watch your back all the time. dont bark, and only bite when you have to. bake a couple of pies, and offer them one. even criminals dont like to victimize folks who treat them decently.
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*Que dance music*

Bum Bum Bum Badum

"SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE----
TWEAKERS ARE WATCHINGGGGG MEEEEEEEEE,
ALWAYS SCOPING MY PROPERTYYY."

Get to know your neighbors.
It cant hurt.
Bring them in ice cold Mickeys and shoot the shit,
You fear the unknown.
If they really are tweakers though you gotta draw the line.

Shooting off some shells filled with rock salt for no apparent reason is a good way to end up in jail yourself, then you might find yourself in a similar position one day, and a shell filled with salt is NOT non lethal, at least not to a court of law.

Yes sometimes people look in your yard If they live behind you. Get used to or move to BFE.
 Quoting: No reward


They robbed the lady next door, their neighbor. And multiple cars along the street. Beers for everyone!!!!! Would YOU hang with them? Doubt it, unless you are as unsavory. Carry on.
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10/09/2012 10:41 PM
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
*Que dance music*

Bum Bum Bum Badum

"SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE----
TWEAKERS ARE WATCHINGGGGG MEEEEEEEEE,
ALWAYS SCOPING MY PROPERTYYY."

Get to know your neighbors.
It cant hurt.
Bring them in ice cold Mickeys and shoot the shit,
You fear the unknown.
If they really are tweakers though you gotta draw the line.

Shooting off some shells filled with rock salt for no apparent reason is a good way to end up in jail yourself, then you might find yourself in a similar position one day, and a shell filled with salt is NOT non lethal, at least not to a court of law.

Yes sometimes people look in your yard If they live behind you. Get used to or move to BFE.
 Quoting: No reward


They robbed the lady next door, their neighbor. And multiple cars along the street. Beers for everyone!!!!! Would YOU hang with them? Doubt it, unless you are as unsavory. Carry on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25193444



wow, ok that is some additional info there.

Look, there is some calmer more patient and strategic ideas in here already and there are some aggressive more emotional ideas.

Just take a least a couple of deep breaths whilst you do what you do OK?

Ps i got guns too and love em!
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Nip it in the bud right away. Call 911 and tell them you saw someone running out your back door on your way in tonight. You think it was your neighbors. Tell them where they live. It'll be your word against theirs, but now, the cops are familiar with them. The cops will probably go to talk to them. If they get mad at you, tell them you didn't get a good look, just thought it was them. But police have their info, they know it. And they're suspected as the number one place to go to in case of a problem at your home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22573986


This is something that Fatal Wishes would say.
Then Brief will chime in telling you to invite them over for beer and pizza, so they can case the joint for valuables.
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
Empty out a shotgun shell and fill it with rock salt.

It makes a great 'non-lethal' reminder.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


that's how I clean my porch in the winter :)

but seriously, it's a good idea. have a few salt-shells myself, and peppercorn-shells for squirrels so that they die and get seasoned at the same time. Don't laugh, they're patent-pending
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
burglars usually dont "hot prowl" (go into a house with occupants). so flashing a shotgun only tells them you have shit worth stealing (ghetto folks dont mind stolen firearms). if they're the "home invasion robbery" types, then you basically just tell them to kill you in your yard or at your front door if you flash arms. only idiots think showing a firearm is some kind of deterrant. pointing it at them on their back porch is a declaration of war. then you have to watch your back all the time. dont bark, and only bite when you have to. bake a cou ple of pies, and offer them one. even criminals dont like to victimize folks who treat them decently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25277803


Great point. But...

I am not worried about what we have, it can all be replaced. I'm a small female alone in a home, I worry about my life. I would flash a gun to show those low-life mother fuckers that I value my life above theirs.

Believe me, I would love to bake a pie and make it all better. I actually used to do that for a living, lol. Problem is, these people are scum. Can I have your recipe for love pie? hf
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
burglars usually dont "hot prowl" (go into a house with occupants). so flashing a shotgun only tells them you have shit worth stealing (ghetto folks dont mind stolen firearms). if they're the "home invasion robbery" types, then you basically just tell them to kill you in your yard or at your front door if you flash arms. only idiots think showing a firearm is some kind of deterrant. pointing it at them on their back porch is a declaration of war. then you have to watch your back all the time. dont bark, and only bite when you have to. bake a couple of pies, and offer them one. even criminals dont like to victimize folks who treat them decently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25277803


Oh Bullshit. Animals need to be treated like animals.

People do not fuck with me because they know/can easily see how bad they will get fucked up if they try.

OP, not only clean your shotgun on the porch, but find a way to let them know how willing you are to use it.

Let loose a few rounds, if the cops do show up, you were killing off an angry opossum or alligator whatever you have down there.
We all breathe the same air.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
*Que dance music*

Bum Bum Bum Badum

"SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE----
TWEAKERS ARE WATCHINGGGGG MEEEEEEEEE,
ALWAYS SCOPING MY PROPERTYYY."

Get to know your neighbors.
It cant hurt.
Bring them in ice cold Mickeys and shoot the shit,
You fear the unknown.
If they really are tweakers though you gotta draw the line.

Shooting off some shells filled with rock salt for no apparent reason is a good way to end up in jail yourself, then you might find yourself in a similar position one day, and a shell filled with salt is NOT non lethal, at least not to a court of law.

Yes sometimes people look in your yard If they live behind you. Get used to or move to BFE.
 Quoting: No reward


They robbed the lady next door, their neighbor. And multiple cars along the street. Beers for everyone!!!!! Would YOU hang with them? Doubt it, unless you are as unsavory. Carry on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25193444



wow, ok that is some additional info there.

Look, there is some calmer more patient and strategic ideas in here already and there are some aggressive more emotional ideas.

Just take a least a couple of deep breaths whilst you do what you do OK?

Ps i got guns too and love em!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5859380


I'm cool, thanks for your input. :)
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
OP, I feel you. My neighborhood is turning less nice since too many idiots bought houses and turned them into rentals so now I have neighbors of the variety I moved into this neighborhood to avoid living around 18 years ago...I'm a single woman, no man around, only my grown sons who visit regularly but randomly enough to keep 'em guessing, particularly since there's always an extra vehicle parked aside from my daily go to work car. The losers next door don't work, have lots of in and out traffic and hang out on the sidewalk just this side of the hedge, can't tell them to F off as they're on public property but it does make gardening more of a chore than pleasure when I'm being surveyed and my stuff, tools etc stared at. They give off a menacing vibe and creep me out. Last week I came down the street in my car to pull in my driveway and one guy was walking up and down slapping a baseball bat in his hands like he's expecting something...I studiously ignore them. Don't want to know let alone befriend them, just hope they get kicked out soon or get hauled in for whatever illegal stuff they're involved in...wish I would overhear or see something to legitimately call the police...
For Christmas I'm getting a gun, my son taught me how to shoot at the firing range and I'm a good shot to 30 yards with a pistol and pretty sure I'd not hesitate if my life was endangered though I'd hate to take a life. You might try what I've done walking around with my cell phone pretending to have a conversation with someone, talking of "drug dealers" down the street and how the cops are watching them...or the neighbor 4 houses down who is buddies with the swat commander and is having a BBQ next week for all his police friends...or how they got undercover cops buying in the neighborhood getting ready for a sting...or how they just shut down some whatever 5 blocks over...just do it loud enough to be heard...or talk about the huge, badass German shepherd you are getting or babysitting...I kind of have fun with my non existent conversation partner, silly yes, but it makes me feel better.
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*Que dance music*

Bum Bum Bum Badum

"SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE----
TWEAKERS ARE WATCHINGGGGG MEEEEEEEEE,
ALWAYS SCOPING MY PROPERTYYY."

Get to know your neighbors.
It cant hurt.
Bring them in ice cold Mickeys and shoot the shit,
You fear the unknown.
If they really are tweakers though you gotta draw the line.

Shooting off some shells filled with rock salt for no apparent reason is a good way to end up in jail yourself, then you might find yourself in a similar position one day, and a shell filled with salt is NOT non lethal, at least not to a court of law.

Yes sometimes people look in your yard If they live behind you. Get used to or move to BFE.
 Quoting: No reward


They robbed the lady next door, their neighbor. And multiple cars along the street. Beers for everyone!!!!! Would YOU hang with them? Doubt it, unless you are as unsavory. Carry on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25193444


No im just saying there are people in this country who dont care about jail and dont mind going back. Flashing a gun at these types of people is merely presenting a challenge and opportunity. Not saying you should live in fear either. Try to take the unexpected middle road and most of these vermin cant understand why you are not afraid of them. So they leave you alone. enough said. Trust your own judgment maybe go ask for your neighbors stuff back with a shotgun?
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burglars usually dont "hot prowl" (go into a house with occupants). so flashing a shotgun only tells them you have shit worth stealing (ghetto folks dont mind stolen firearms). if they're the "home invasion robbery" types, then you basically just tell them to kill you in your yard or at your front door if you flash arms. only idiots think showing a firearm is some kind of deterrant. pointing it at them on their back porch is a declaration of war. then you have to watch your back all the time. dont bark, and only bite when you have to. bake a couple of pies, and offer them one. even criminals dont like to victimize folks who treat them decently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25277803


Oh Bullshit. Animals need to be treated like animals.

People do not fuck with me because they know/can easily see how bad they will get fucked up if they try.

OP, not only clean your shotgun on the porch, but find a way to let them know how willing you are to use it.

Let loose a few rounds, if the cops do show up, you were killing off an angry opossum or alligator whatever you have down there.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


I will do that. Thank you for your honesty. hf
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OP, I feel you. My neighborhood is turning less nice since too many idiots bought houses and turned them into rentals so now I have neighbors of the variety I moved into this neighborhood to avoid living around 18 years ago...I'm a single woman, no man around, only my grown sons who visit regularly but randomly enough to keep 'em guessing, particularly since there's always an extra vehicle parked aside from my daily go to work car. The losers next door don't work, have lots of in and out traffic and hang out on the sidewalk just this side of the hedge, can't tell them to F off as they're on public property but it does make gardening more of a chore than pleasure when I'm being surveyed and my stuff, tools etc stared at. They give off a menacing vibe and creep me out. Last week I came down the street in my car to pull in my driveway and one guy was walking up and down slapping a baseball bat in his hands like he's expecting something...I studiously ignore them. Don't want to know let alone befriend them, just hope they get kicked out soon or get hauled in for whatever illegal stuff they're involved in...wish I would overhear or see something to legitimately call the police...
For Christmas I'm getting a gun, my son taught me how to shoot at the firing range and I'm a good shot to 30 yards with a pistol and pretty sure I'd not hesitate if my life was endangered though I'd hate to take a life. You might try what I've done walking around with my cell phone pretending to have a conversation with someone, talking of "drug dealers" down the street and how the cops are watching them...or the neighbor 4 houses down who is buddies with the swat commander and is having a BBQ next week for all his police friends...or how they got undercover cops buying in the neighborhood getting ready for a sting...or how they just shut down some whatever 5 blocks over...just do it loud enough to be heard...or talk about the huge, badass German shepherd you are getting or babysitting...I kind of have fun with my non existent conversation partner, silly yes, but it makes me feel better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9254095


is the name of your WIFI network surveillance van? thats a good one...

Just remember your white and you are a minority and have rights.

Don't let strangers run your life.

Don't let them get to you to the point where your talking to people that are not there,
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
burglars usually dont "hot prowl" (go into a house with occupants). so flashing a shotgun only tells them you have shit worth stealing (ghetto folks dont mind stolen firearms). if they're the "home invasion robbery" types, then you basically just tell them to kill you in your yard or at your front door if you flash arms. only idiots think showing a firearm is some kind of deterrant. pointing it at them on their back porch is a declaration of war. then you have to watch your back all the time. dont bark, and only bite when you have to. bake a couple of pies, and offer them one. even criminals dont like to victimize folks who treat them decently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25277803


Oh Bullshit. Animals need to be treated like animals.

People do not fuck with me because they know/can easily see how bad they will get fucked up if they try.

OP, not only clean your shotgun on the porch, but find a way to let them know how willing you are to use it.

Let loose a few rounds, if the cops do show up, you were killing off an angry opossum or alligator whatever you have down there.
 Quoting: wisc_natureboy


my guess is you have little actual clue about criminals. burglars dont rob, robbers dont burgle. they are mutually exclusive niches. a hot prowl burglar is a serious rarity. translated, that means the average burglar will NEVER come to your home while you are actually there. so, where is the deterrant? if you aren't home, all the ridiculous posing with arms you may do ammounts to naught, except to show said burglar what kind of firearms you have for them to steal while you're out galavanting. as for robbers, well, if they get desperate enough, it just tells them that you have to be ambushed. if they fill you with buckshot while you mow the lawn, what detterant have you made effective use of? in both cases, you are just barking. the barking dog is a known factor. planning neutralizes known factors. the silent dog in the shadow is an unknown. the unknown fucks up even the best laid plan. never bark, only bite when you have to. ive lived in ghettoes for a half century now, and i dont get victimized, ever.
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Re: The criminals next door are scoping my house.
K-Fed (the yo boy petty criminal next door to me, my name for his stupid ass) was scoping my house the same exact way.

What I did was tape up a used target paper rife with holes in tight groupings on my back slider door (where he was looking).

Fucker stopped looking the next day.





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