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Lets talk about zero point Tech...
We are only given enough power to see how well we deal with it as growing spiritual beings. The tech we use now are only toys compared to the potential of zero point tech.

I truly believe this will be the only technology that will work after our great transition through point zero by the end of this year. So the question remains.. can we have a congenial discussion about this without arguing about it all being BS. We all have been promised so many time about this type of free energy. We have been tricked by the disinfo agents and scammers so they can make a quick buck. But lets get real about this and at least try to see the possibility of this tech rolling out after the end of this year. After all, its not that far off now, and everyone feels the tension building everywhere. So lets relieve it a bit by discussing something that seems more and more possible every day. And is a step in a positive direction, if for nothing else, than through good intentions to help us all live and be happy once and for all.

So lets get started shall we:

I will get started with a wikilink for a quick rundown to those who may not be familiar with this concept that is proving to be very real. and we will get to that later and i am hoping others can also help to show what we are finding out about this energy that resides in what most would call the "nothing" or "void" in empty spaces. like an empty glass that may not actually be empty like we were taught in this linear frame of thought.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Vacuum energy is the zero-point energy of all the fields in space, which in the Standard Model includes the electromagnetic field, other gauge fields, fermionic fields, and the Higgs field. It is the energy of the vacuum, which in quantum field theory is defined not as empty space but as the ground state of the fields. In cosmology, the vacuum energy is one possible explanation for the cosmological constant. A related term is zero-point field, which is the lowest energy state of a particular field."

So from my summation of what is being stated here, zero point energy is found in the space that the current science says there is nothing. This energy is all around us and free to us as soon as we find a way to harness it(or as soon as we are allowed).

"In cosmology, the zero-point energy offers an intriguing possibility for explaining the speculative positive values of the proposed cosmological constant. In brief, if the energy is "really there", then it should exert a gravitational force.[8] In general relativity, mass and energy are equivalent; both produce a gravitational field. One obvious difficulty with this association is that the zero-point energy of the vacuum is absurdly large. Naively, it is infinite, because it includes the energy of waves with arbitrarily short wavelengths. But since only differences in energy are physically measurable, the infinity can be removed by renormalization. In all practical calculations, this is how the infinity is handled. It is also arguable that undiscovered physics relevant at the Planck scale reduces or eliminates the energy of waves shorter than the Planck length, making the total zero-point energy finite."

As in the this energy field resides within an infinatly long wavelangth that streches throught the univers that we know of now(and infinite means it can never run out). Yet it is so low it can not be measured by our current science, so is discarded as an anomaly that we can not harness...yet.

And now an interview conducted way back in 2002 with a very spiritual scientist some of you may know of very well...
[link to www.spiritofmaat.com]
Adam Trombly's revelations will shock you to the depths. But it is his hope, and ours, that it will help you to awaken, or to assist you in your task of awakening others.

Trombly's ultimate vision is the "redreaming of the American Dream."

Excerpts from the interview(although i highly suggest you read more of this interview if interested):

"People literally cannot maintain their attention span. More than once I have stood and watched crafts 100 or 200 feet over my head and had people say things like, "Well that's not an airplane," or "Oh, my God, are we actually seeing this?" "Is that real?"

But by the next day, the whole chemistry of denial has set in and those same people say, "Wow, that was a strange airplane, it was going really slow, or really fast, and how did it make that right turn?"

This is what got me started in free energy technology — though I hate the term free energy, because it's anything but free. Many have paid dearly for its advent. I don't even know what term I like at this point. I use the term Zero Point Fluctuation Technology — ZP Technology.

I used to have a company called Zero Point Technology. As soon as you put something like that on your shingle, you discover just how unacceptable this concept is to those whose growth stopped so long ago."

"When I got involved in ZP in 1979, I was warned by Buckminster Fuller that if we were successful there'd be hell to pay. If we were actually successful, then it could develop into a real nightmare, because the humans we're dealing with are a species that has been kept in the dark. We've been treated like mushrooms (which are kept in the dark and fed a lot of feces -- there's no nice way of putting this).

The extremes to which these people are willing to go to make your life miserable are phenomenal. They go out of their way to torment those who challenge their utter mediocrity."

This is a link to his Bio on his web site:
[link to projectearth.com]

Ok!

So lets do this. Let the discussion commence...
(I will be adding more info to this also and encourage others to do the same)

peace

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/09/2012 10:36 PM
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Re: Lets talk about zero point Tech...
No offense op, but I think you've bought into the free energy disinformation propaganda. Have you ever seen Thrive? All of these so called free energy experts claim to have had working devices, but the government confiscated them. However, Gamble doesn't go into any detail as to why they are unable to replicate their own work. The government didn't confiscate shit. The only thing suppressing OU energy generation technology is that most of the people claiming to be experts haven't a clue about how EM really works. Just like modern atomic theory and the 'God Particle' proposed by modern academia, the free energy people keep inventing new terms because otherwise their theories fall apart.

I too have been following free energy research for years and have come to the conclusion that 99% of all free energy claims are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Here some simple truth that may help shine some light on how unnecessarily convoluted the free energy field has become:

"Terms such as zero point energy, energy from the vacuum, free energy, etc. are misnomers in a sense. The fact is we can get electricity in only two ways. We can extract it from bound matter or we can extract it from the Earth's magnetic field. All generators that use coils are nothing more than magnetic energy extraction devices. Some are more efficient at extracting the energy from the Earth's magnetic field than others, but they all do the same thing."

This is from www.leedskalnin.com. You should check out the writings of Edward Leedskalnin if you are truly interested in understanding electro magnetism
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It suffices to say this concept is nothing new and has been around for a long time. It was just not properly understood(or forgotten)...

Nikola Tesla was THE pioneer of this technology and he had no idea exactly what we was dealing with. He was just trying shit that had popped up in his imagination while in deep thought. We are just now beginning to understand what we was working with so blindly back then. I say blindly because he literally started experiments on this matter without knowing the consequences of what may actually happen. Their is a story i remember reading where he made an entire building shake like it was in an earth quake. When the authorities finally kicked his do in(he could not hear them due to the noise). He was using a sledge hammer to try and stop his project from destroying the entire building with him in it. He was definitely one of the mad scientists of his time. Just image this man with dark thick googles on a black apron over a shirt and tie while slinging a sledgehammer at this big contraption sitting in the middle of the room while the entire building shook profusely.


"If we could produce electric effects of the required quality, this whole planet and the conditions of existence on it could be transformed. The sun raises the water of the oceans and winds drive it to distant regions where it remains in state of most delicate balance. If it were in our power to upset it when and wherever desired, this mighty life-sustaining stream could be at will controlled. We could irrigate arid deserts, create lakes and rivers and provide motive power in unlimited amount. This would be the most efficient way of harnesing the sun to the uses of man......" ( Nikola Tesla, June 1919 )

[link to www.thelivingmoon.com]
"To learn about the foundations and current technical knowledge in the Zero-Point and free-energy fields is to open a very large Pandora's Box. One finds non-believers, strong supporters, dissenters, and active hard-nosed suppressers. My interest was aroused as a teenager by reading about the life and contributions of Nikola Tesla, now available in the books by Walters (1961) and Cheney (1981). He is the one individual responsible for creating the entire alternating current network that powers the world today. He defied the science of his day, and designed and built the AC generator that transforms "potential" energy into "electrical" energy. Yet, he is not in many school texts, and his basic theories and ideas for larger projects and applications were nearly lost to the world. Why was he not supported? Why is Thomas Edison such a well known name and Nikola Tesla is not? Why was his research not actively continued? Why does the academic community, within the U.S., continually ignore the possible applications of his theories?

Tesla was unceremoniously thrown out of the best technical school in Yugoslavia for believing that he could build a generator that would extract electrical power from a running stream of water. His professor called it: "Perpetual Motion!" This is not so unfamiliar. We have heard other such convenient explanations, such as: "Heavier than air machines will never fly" (Lord Kelvin, 1890's); "We threw out all of the textbooks, and then we built the airplane" (the Wright Brothers); "The human body will not survive speeds of over 40 miles per hour" (early 1900's); and "Airplanes can not go faster than the speed of sound" (1940's). Other example abound, all spoken by the out-spoken "leaders" of their day. My view is that science continues to grow and mature. Nature is fixed. Only our understanding of Nature continually unfolds. Sometimes this growth has been only painful, and sometimes it has provided great shocks to the system. Fear of change is not an adequate excuse for not actively pursuing the development of our full capabilities as human beings, as individuals or as groups."
"I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial

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Re: Lets talk about zero point Tech...
No offense op, but I think you've bought into the free energy disinformation propaganda. Have you ever seen Thrive? All of these so called free energy experts claim to have had working devices, but the government confiscated them. However, Gamble doesn't go into any detail as to why they are unable to replicate their own work. The government didn't confiscate shit. The only thing suppressing OU energy generation technology is that most of the people claiming to be experts haven't a clue about how EM really works. Just like modern atomic theory and the 'God Particle' proposed by modern academia, the free energy people keep inventing new terms because otherwise their theories fall apart.

I too have been following free energy research for years and have come to the conclusion that 99% of all free energy claims are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Here some simple truth that may help shine some light on how unnecessarily convoluted the free energy field has become:

"Terms such as zero point energy, energy from the vacuum, free energy, etc. are misnomers in a sense. The fact is we can get electricity in only two ways. We can extract it from bound matter or we can extract it from the Earth's magnetic field. All generators that use coils are nothing more than magnetic energy extraction devices. Some are more efficient at extracting the energy from the Earth's magnetic field than others, but they all do the same thing."

This is from www.leedskalnin.com. You should check out the writings of Edward Leedskalnin if you are truly interested in understanding electro magnetism
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You must understand that it is a hard pill to swallow for the general science world, because it is basically along the same lines of spirit. we all can agree that we have a soul but it can not be proven with conventional science. But quantum physics is stating to prove otherwise in all this. The form of science we still go by in grad schools and college are quickly loosing ground due to these new findings.

That mocumentary was meant to do just that(make the what has relevance look bad). This is a part of the disinfo. You must remember that whenever there is relevant truth that others wish to hide, there is a disinfo campaign put out against it. To make it look bad and to discourage people from looking more into it.

Case in point about "Thrive" and it being debunked by some of the very experts who where interviewed for it including Trombly..

[link to thrivedebunked.wordpress.com]

"Probably the single most important event in Thrive‘s short history was the announcement, on April 10, 2012, that nine of the people interviewed in the film had signed a letter repudiating it and claiming that Foster Gamble misrepresented the film to them. (A tenth signatory, Adam Trombly, later joined the letter). Those events as well as the Gambles’ response were covered on this blog as they happened. The architect of the repudiation letter was John Robbins, who was nice enough to write me a note a few months ago specifically expressing his displeasure with the conspiracy theories advanced in Thrive. I found Mr. Robbins’s reasons for opposing the movie closely congruent with my own."

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/09/2012 11:20 PM
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I bet there are several ways, some more and some less efficient to use the power that already exists in the "space", like absorbing it. One thing i read about was the Zydro-energy-device, but i don't know if this is fake. Right now more and more people start thinking about this stuff, and i'm very excited on what will come out.
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Alternative Energy Forum(from the deep)
Perpetual Motion Machine. Magnetism & Gravity.

Can someone verify this one way or another?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Wooot !!! Didn't see that one [link to www.youtube.com] now I'm happy to find a summer project.

Expect news... :)
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The second one is asymmetrical electric motor. There is one patent by Tesla for it(#390414). It is a dynamic motor...dynamotor...used very heavily by the US military during WW2 :)
I like the way this guy describes the Asymmetrical vs the Symmetrical.
[link to www.youtube.com]
He calls B-EMF "the witch"...in an asymmetrical system the B-EMF isn't lost energy. :)

Love the magnet Perpetual concept. It should work, but without doing it...can't be sure for myself. It makes sense the forces of the magnet being pulled to the magnet could make the magnetic ball spin and then make the wheel spin, but not much useful mechanical energy there, but still a cool showpiece :)

With the asymmetrical electric motor Tesla recorded 20kw out from 1kw in.

As always

Have fun!
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As soon as I get some free time I am going to try the magnet perpetual concept. I don't think it is perpetual because it is using energy that is already present... in this case gravity and magnetism. I think it is worth a try. Now, I don't know if that is a ball bearing or a spherical ceramic magnet. If I can find a magnet like that, I want to try it to see if it works or not. However, it most likely is a ball bearing.
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This should also help with the Asymmetric Motor.

The energetic forums have been working on Asymmetric motors for some time. If done correctly they will power themselves once they hit a certain RPM. It takes very little current to get them to start (unlike conventional symmetric motors that take up to 200 amps to kick).
The reason we don't use asymmetric motors is because they said its too old of a design and is useless for modern applications...even though quite the opposite is true.
Yes, Asymmetric motors are quantum (if you were curious). Quantum Mechanics is what scared science when Tesla was alive....they could not explain where the "aether" energy was coming from and most still cannot. Its called QED (Quantum electrodynamics). Magic Removed.

You are probably right that its a bearing and not a magnet. Guess I am gonna have to break down and make something with moving parts. Both of these projects look like fun and Asymmetry plays a big roll in the solid-state generators too. :)
Although, I will say the amount of mechanical energy in the magnetic showpiece is so small that it could probably only be used as a showpiece (still cool to show off though).
Also, over-balancing and Asymmetry go hand in hand. :)

Have fun!
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Do you have any links on solid state generators I can look at while you work on your paper? I've never seen or looked into it.
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There are many. Here is one I think I might have posted already.

[link to www.rexresearch.com]

There are a couple people using a slayer exciter to produce the resonant frequency for other coils to collect the stray capacitance that is produced by those circuits. I seem to be having trouble finding the videos though. One guy is getting 1kw out with a 1.5v/200mA draw. Stated very clearly he could get more.
Another type of solid state OU generator is called the kapanadze generator. This is also a solid state design but I have not verified this one yet....its similar to other I have seen though. There is also another one called a time pump that is on the same site as the scalar project I posted.
Hope this helps.
Have fun!
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Just found one of the pdf's that I thought was lost forever :)
Here is the link:
[link to free-energy-info.co.uk]

Good info there...its a little different then the way I ended up making mine but it all ties into what Moray said about his box.

Have Fun!
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@, Its been quite for a couple of days on the forum, but I thought you might find this interesting. It is an induction forge. Getting the resonant frequency of the metal you are trying to melt. Alot like a microwave but at much lower frequencies. This is just the search results on youtube but you should check out the one about levitation... Aluminum is what he uses. I think it is the 3rd or 4th on the search results... But you know how google customizes everyones results.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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That is pretty cool. I have seen that before.
The Hutchinson's effect is similar in how it works.
It is also, in my theories, the same type of forging that they used in ancient Greece.
Right now I am stuck on the center of a black hole in my head. I am positive that there isn't nothing in the center of a black hole, but for that to be true the center of a black hole would have to contain everything. For the center of a black hole to contain everything it would have to reduce matter to its smallest form..sound. So what sound is at the center of a black hole?
I also found this book that my great grandpa had that I had never noticed before that talks about how advanced civilizations have been throughout human history. Its called "We are not the First". In another reading I did I found something that stated that what the Atlantian's quest was...was to find the "Master Frequency". The frequency that was common among all things in our universe. In some texts I believe this to be referenced to the voice of GOD and would be capable of destroying and creating nearly anything. Which also puts the idea that sound is the key that we all seek even more in the highlight.
Sub-Harmonics have interesting effects. From people hearing the angels voices to levitating and "melting" materials. I think that sound can also destroy and create. Plasma is a good example of a form of matter that can easily be generated with sound and electricity (electricity - the electron - being the glue that holds every atom together).
This brings alchemy and science together..the conservation of energy is an alchemist law...not a scientific one.
Induction heaters work very well too :)
Also..been very busy with work and trying to finish my pdf. I am stuck at part of it because I am trying to make it all as simple as possible and I haven't figured out how to simplify all of it. My brain is kinda on the wrack at the moment. LOL

Hope all is well.
Have fun!
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If I can help you in anyway let me know. I work with stupid people so I have to dumb stuff down all the time. My favorite symbol is the sound of the sun... Very old symbol but somehow, matches the frequency of the sound waves the sun puts out.
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You wouldn't happen to have a pdf of that book do you?
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I apologize I do not have it in pdf. I have it in old-school book format. It was my great grandpa's book.
That made me think of the similarity between the eye of rah and the pituitary gland in our brains.
It's not so much as being stupid...its the fact its not the same. Different is often difficult even for an intelligent person.
The sun puts out many frequencies like we do and the many planets. They have recorded the sounds of many of the planets.
Lets start with home first:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Jupiter:
[link to www.youtube.com]

and there are quite a few others but even these are getting hard to find and once again some people use the sounds of the universe to spread the mystical stuffs again...which makes it difficult for a pure scientific mind to pay any attention to it at all.
Anywho, I will let you know if I can use a hand. One of my friends is not the sharpest tool in the shed...he is a good test to see if he can understand it. So far, so good.
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@
I assume you're talking about Om(Aum)
Care to explain more about how the symbol matches the sun's frequency?
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Here is a link to Universal Laws Never Before Revealed. Keely's Secrets. Its a good one.
[link to www.theosophical.ca]
Here yah go ________.

[link to www.mandalanv.com] <(A different link to replace the other,DH)

That relates to Om(Aum).
Have Fun!
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Thanks. In a physics class in college we used a tuning plate (I think that is what it was called, basically a speaker but with a metal plate instead of the cone.) When tuned to the suns frequency, and throwing a powder or sand on to the plate, it makes a shape that looks similar to the "AUM" symbol.
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Fecking awesome discussion IMO. You know i had to post this for ya'll to see :)

BTW i had to remove two of the links in order to post this
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Re: Lets talk about zero point Tech...
I bet there are several ways, some more and some less efficient to use the power that already exists in the "space", like absorbing it. One thing i read about was the Zydro-energy-device, but i don't know if this is fake. Right now more and more people start thinking about this stuff, and i'm very excited on what will come out.
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More people are thinking about this because we are catching the wave of information floating around us. This is why when you think of a cool idea and you soon after find someone else has the same idea and your like, Hay, that was my idea. The same goes for feeling or your inner intuition. Like when you will feel like something seems wrong or right and then you hear someone else mention the same way you felt about it and then another. Even though you did not talk about what you may have thought about this or that, but you find others have the same feeling as you. This is an example of absorbing an idea. Just like how you stated we should just be able to absorb the energy with a devise. It is already fact that we absorb vitamin D from the sun. It just gets absorbed into our skin. We can not see it or taste it. but when the sun is out, it is there.

So you can relate this same concept to energy. The more i think of it, the more it makes sense to me. Martial artists are taught to harness this energy within them to "gain more power" that many refer to as Chi.

So there must be a way to harness it with a device. This is where quantum mechanics comes into play through this zero point energy. It exists. It has already been show to be out there, floating around us at this very minute. So it is simple logic that comes into play after taking all this in that says, yes, there must be a way to harness it for us to utilize in our daily lives.

There is already a way to take the energy we have now through our primitive machines and make it more efficient. And this is through the Rodin Coil(among other ways but this particular device is to amazing not to mention). It may not be completely free(yet), but when properly done and patched into your current power source the energy you are receiving is multiplied many times over. This has been demonstrated by independent engineers and back yard mechanic enthusiasts alike.


"Marko Rodin has discovered the source of the non-decaying spin of the electron. Although scientists know that all electrons in the universe spin they have never discovered the source of this spin. Rodin has. He has discovered the underpinning geometry of the universe, the fabric of time itself. He has done this by reducing all higher mathematics – calculus, geometry, scalar math – to discrete-number mathematics."

"With the introduction of Vortex-Based Mathematics you will be able to see how energy is expressing itself mathematically. This math has no anomalies and shows the dimensional shape and function of the universe as being a toroid or donut-shaped black hole. This is the template for the universe and it is all within our base ten decimal system!"

This link alone has more than enough info to get you caught up on what has been happening with this amazing invention THAT WORKS NOW...
[link to peswiki.com]

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/09/2012 11:54 PM
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I would not be surprised that the Tesla Power Tower was found to consist of the same concept of the Rodin Coil built within the top of this structure.

[link to www.teslaenergy.org]
"Perhaps Tesla's greatest discovery and vision was a Power Tower that would provide free electricity, without wires and meters, which would be in service to humanity, as well as, advance mankind well into a new future! At the beginning of the 20th century, Tesla was able to send electrical energy through the earth without the use of wires. He described how his World Wide Energy System, based on high-frequency electrical energy, would in no way pollute the earth. A small receiving device in one's home would provide all the power needed and at a fraction of present-day costs. He began construction of his Power Tower at Wardenclyffe, Long Island, N.Y. in 1901, to demonstrate the practical benefits of his broadcast of radiant energy. Unfortunately, this vision was too advanced for our primitive ways of thinking the negative forces found rational reasons for destroying the structure."

An article i have linked below is very eye opening and to the point. I suggest anyone interested in what i am talking about here to check it out and make up your own mind on what you see unfolding here in relation to what was going on then.

[link to www.reformation.org]
"Tesla's tower could produce 100 billion watts of electricity!!

Tesla's magnifying transmitter could produce awesome levels of power by setting up stationary waves in the earth."

Tesla was on to something that we were not ready for yet in a spiritual sense i feel. But now we are coming closer to the true understanding of it all. And if you have researched any of Marco Rodin's work, you know what i am talking about. We truly are living in wonderful times. Regardless of what they try to tell you in the news(to look away and pay attention to the old BS). Open your eyes for there are wonderful things happening all around us right now.

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 10/10/2012 12:22 AM
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I bet there are several ways, some more and some less efficient to use the power that already exists in the "space", like absorbing it. One thing i read about was the Zydro-energy-device, but i don't know if this is fake. Right now more and more people start thinking about this stuff, and i'm very excited on what will come out.
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More people are thinking about this because we are catching the wave of information floating around us. This is why when you think of a cool idea and you soon after find someone else has the same idea and your like, Hay, that was my idea.
The same goes for feeling or your inner intuition. Like when you will feel like something seems wrong or right and then you hear someone else mention the same way you felt about it and then another. Even though you did not talk about what you may have thought about this or that, but you find others have the same feeling as you. This is an example of absorbing an idea. Just like how you stated we should just be able to absorb the energy with a devise. It is already fact that we absorb vitamin D from the sun. It just gets absorbed into our skin. We can not see it or taste it. but when the sun is out, it is there.

So you can relate this same concept to energy. The more i think of it, the more it makes sense to me. Martial artists are taught to harness this energy within them to "gain more power" that many refer to as Chi.

So there must be a way to harness it with a device. This is where quantum mechanics comes into play through this zero point energy. It exists. It has already been show to be out there, floating around us at this very minute. So it is simple logic that comes into play after taking all this in that says, yes, there must be a way to harness it for us to utilize in our daily lives.

There is already a way to take the energy we have now through our primitive machines and make it more efficient. And this is through the Rodin Coil(among other ways but this particular device is to amazing not to mention). It may not be completely free(yet), but when properly done and patched into your current power source the energy you are receiving is multiplied many times over. This has been demonstrated by independent engineers and back yard mechanic enthusiasts alike.


"Marko Rodin has discovered the source of the non-decaying spin of the electron. Although scientists know that all electrons in the universe spin they have never discovered the source of this spin. Rodin has. He has discovered the underpinning geometry of the universe, the fabric of time itself. He has done this by reducing all higher mathematics – calculus, geometry, scalar math – to discrete-number mathematics."

"With the introduction of Vortex-Based Mathematics you will be able to see how energy is expressing itself mathematically. This math has no anomalies and shows the dimensional shape and function of the universe as being a toroid or donut-shaped black hole. This is the template for the universe and it is all within our base ten decimal system!"

This link alone has more than enough info to get you caught up on what has been happening with this amazing invention THAT WORKS NOW...
[link to peswiki.com]
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Hah, I call singularity on that one :D, some days before i got to know the "zydro-energy-device" i was thinking about a similar concept of an energy device, and if my memory isn't fucked i think i read that on peswiki afro
and thanks for the link
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Always equated Eugene Mallove with zero point.
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The singularity comes from the consciousness wave we are ridding right now, together friendafro

It will lead us to the tuth's and understanding we have been looking for and waiting on for so long. Stick around. Our journey into the world of wonders is coming very close to the epoch of this age and into a whole new bag of beans. Think "jack and the been stalk" without the giant:)

xmit
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Walter Russell nailed it.
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Always equated Eugene Mallove with zero point.
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How so? Yes, he was a cold fusion expert no doubt about that. But not necessarily the equivalent free energy.

This article pretty much sums up his story(please add if you know anything more):
[link to www.greatdreams.com]

BTW his work is still carried on today by mechanics and machinists today with working devises that work off of his technology like torches and motors and even some cars. They are not mass marketed of course, but this tech is out there for those how know how to work with it safely.

But still not free energy. And that is the basses of this thread:)
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No offense op, but I think you've bought into the free energy disinformation propaganda. Have you ever seen Thrive? All of these so called free energy experts claim to have had working devices, but the government confiscated them. However, Gamble doesn't go into any detail as to why they are unable to replicate their own work. The government didn't confiscate shit. The only thing suppressing OU energy generation technology is that most of the people claiming to be experts haven't a clue about how EM really works. Just like modern atomic theory and the 'God Particle' proposed by modern academia, the free energy people keep inventing new terms because otherwise their theories fall apart.

I too have been following free energy research for years and have come to the conclusion that 99% of all free energy claims are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Here some simple truth that may help shine some light on how unnecessarily convoluted the free energy field has become:

"Terms such as zero point energy, energy from the vacuum, free energy, etc. are misnomers in a sense. The fact is we can get electricity in only two ways. We can extract it from bound matter or we can extract it from the Earth's magnetic field. All generators that use coils are nothing more than magnetic energy extraction devices. Some are more efficient at extracting the energy from the Earth's magnetic field than others, but they all do the same thing."

This is from www.leedskalnin.com. You should check out the writings of Edward Leedskalnin if you are truly interested in understanding electro magnetism
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+1000

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Will reader and think on the information. Thanks.
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The singularity comes from the consciousness wave we are ridding right now, together friendafro

It will lead us to the tuth's and understanding we have been looking for and waiting on for so long. Stick around. Our journey into the world of wonders is coming very close to the epoch of this age and into a whole new bag of beans. Think "jack and the been stalk" without the giant:)

xmit
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I hope so, thanks for your bracing words.
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"The flutes of the chi will sound again, my friend."

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Walter Russell nailed it.
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Sweet! Now this is what i am looking for here. Thank you kind sir for the suggestion.

WOW!

He definitely had the idea correct. That idea is being put to work NOW. Right now, in our lifetime.

[link to www.dataisnature.com]
"Outsider scientific-mystic Walter Russell developed a lifelong philosophy based on the unifying principles of forces within the cosmos – what seems like a kind of pseudo-scientifically framed offshoot of non-dualism. The most interesting elements his work are the diagrams and charts illustrating his books. They document an idiosyncratic understanding of natural phenomena such as light, magnetism, thermodynamics, waves and vibration."

"It might just be the case that Walter Russell’s genius, and his diagrams, can only be decoded at a later moment in time. His friend Nikola Tesla had advised him to lock away his work in a safe for 1000 years – because humankind was not yet mature enough for it."

‘The glory of becoming a transcendent being is the only reason for living’ – Lao Russell

‘Mediocrity is self-inflicted and genius is self-bestowed’ – Walter Russell

Again thank you for mentioning such an important figure that i am sure inspire many researches today. And i had no idea about this man till now, lol.
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No offense op, but I think you've bought into the free energy disinformation propaganda. Have you ever seen Thrive? All of these so called free energy experts claim to have had working devices, but the government confiscated them. However, Gamble doesn't go into any detail as to why they are unable to replicate their own work. The government didn't confiscate shit. The only thing suppressing OU energy generation technology is that most of the people claiming to be experts haven't a clue about how EM really works. Just like modern atomic theory and the 'God Particle' proposed by modern academia, the free energy people keep inventing new terms because otherwise their theories fall apart.

I too have been following free energy research for years and have come to the conclusion that 99% of all free energy claims are nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Here some simple truth that may help shine some light on how unnecessarily convoluted the free energy field has become:

"Terms such as zero point energy, energy from the vacuum, free energy, etc. are misnomers in a sense. The fact is we can get electricity in only two ways. We can extract it from bound matter or we can extract it from the Earth's magnetic field. All generators that use coils are nothing more than magnetic energy extraction devices. Some are more efficient at extracting the energy from the Earth's magnetic field than others, but they all do the same thing."

This is from www.leedskalnin.com. You should check out the writings of Edward Leedskalnin if you are truly interested in understanding electro magnetism
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+1000

Top post on all points.
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Did you not see my reply to his post friend?

It has been addressed. So i take it you do not believe in the possibility of free energy. It is true we are thinking outside the box here. That is what it takes in order to make something new that could drastically help change our lives for the better. Everything we have now was believed to be impossible at some point. Many inventors and explorers where ridiculed for their point of views that were considered so rouge that they were labeled as nuts. How do you think humanity got this far without dipping into the unknown and risking it all just to see what happens. Curiosity and stepping out of the norm is how all advances are made period.

You do have your own dreams, don't you. You may have even achieved things yourself that others may have said you would never do. Yet you strive to achieve what you have not done before all the time. Whether it be a new high score in sports or jogging a longer distance or going someplace you have never been before. You are always achieving things you have never done before. Yet you tell me no one will ever achieve free energy.

Think about that for a minute friend:)

peace

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Key #2...Biomagnetics USA

Albert Roy Davis.

North and south are two separate energies.

See Keelynet for more data.
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Here are a couple interesting pictures that indicate this tech may not be that new of an idea after all..

teslatower
energypyramid

And NO moving parts.

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And now we have an article that ties more of this together. It IS sounding more and more like these pyramids found all over the world are quite possibly ancient power statins.

[link to hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com]
"Christopher Dunn is a mechanical engineer who has worked primarily in aerospace with an emphasis on precision and laser application. In 1998, he wrote a best-selling book titled The Giza Power Plant. In his book, he describes how he spent 24 years reverse-engineering the Great Pyramid in Egypt and, in doing so, he discovered that its design is that of a power station.

In fact, the energetic power of all pyramids is that they create a force field, which amplifies whatever energy lies beneath them. The word pyramid takes its origins from the Greek meaning ‘fire in the center of’. The Egyptian people accidentally discovered this power long after the Great Pyramid was built, and then harnessed it to mummify their pharaohs."

"The most common arrangement of the Water molecule is in the geometric shape of the Tetrahedron. The molecule of Silicon is also in this geometric shape. And, although it is currently Water that gives us life, Silicon can also support life. But what is most interesting is that the Star Tetrahedron is the geometric shape of a Silicon micro-­computer chip. As we move further into the energies of the year 2012, the molecules of our cells are being alchemically shifted from Carbon into that of multi-dimensional Silicon."
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Always equated Eugene Mallove with zero point.
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How so? Yes, he was a cold fusion expert no doubt about that. But not necessarily the equivalent free energy.

This article pretty much sums up his story(please add if you know anything more):
[link to www.greatdreams.com]

BTW his work is still carried on today by mechanics and machinists today with working devises that work off of his technology like torches and motors and even some cars. They are not mass marketed of course, but this tech is out there for those how know how to work with it safely.

But still not free energy. And that is the basses of this thread:)
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After looking into it some more, i'm beginning to think maybe this guy was on to something here. Hmmmmmm

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We are only given enough power to see how well we deal with it as growing spiritual beings
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cruise

I stopped at "spiritual beings". Bunch of bs.

stfu
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What about the Keshe Foundation?

2 comments:

1 - They link to their Patents. In their patent, they describe how to get this toroidal EM field small enough to fit inside a 9V battery.

This is cool. Any "new" tech definitely would benefit from retrofitting pre-existing means of power. (ie: fit in battery)

2 - In one of the seminars that Keshe did, he had one of his devices in an orange 5-gallon bucket, the audience was egging him on to show it and he kinda tilted the bucket forward and back, giving a quick glimpse. What concerned me is something he said afterwards, "..You'd be surprised at how much power I have!" -- This, I believe, was referencing his ability to remotely "turn off" his Keshe device, anywhere in the world.

You can sign up for one, but in the paperwork, it says, "You cannot generate electricity to sell it back to the power company, and in so doing, your device will be rendered useless."

If true, even though Keshe is out there saying, "Hey, have my free power!" -- He's also built in a dead-man switch in every device? I think this is deceitful.
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to anyone who does not believe this


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We are only given enough power to see how well we deal with it as growing spiritual beings
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:cruise

I stopped at "spiritual beings". Bunch of bs.

:stfu
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LoL

You can just ignore that part if you chose. There is more interesting info with facts and links the farther down the thread you go. You can skip what doesn't draw your attention.

But stopping after the first sentence and then posting that reply seems to me like you don't care to know anything about this subject. Yet you clicked on the link and felt the need to just comment about the first line? Sounds counter productive on your part. And a wast of energy.

Just sayin

peace
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We are only given enough power to see how well we deal with it as growing spiritual beings
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cruise

I stopped at "spiritual beings". Bunch of bs.

stfu
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So you don't read anything that doesn't reinforce your own narrow viewpoint? Do the world a favor and stay in Italy the rest of your fucking life, schmuck.
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What about the Keshe Foundation?

2 comments:

1 - They link to their Patents. In their patent, they describe how to get this toroidal EM field small enough to fit inside a 9V battery.

This is cool. Any "new" tech definitely would benefit from retrofitting pre-existing means of power. (ie: fit in battery)

2 - In one of the seminars that Keshe did, he had one of his devices in an orange 5-gallon bucket, the audience was egging him on to show it and he kinda tilted the bucket forward and back, giving a quick glimpse. What concerned me is something he said afterwards, "..You'd be surprised at how much power I have!" -- This, I believe, was referencing his ability to remotely "turn off" his Keshe device, anywhere in the world.

You can sign up for one, but in the paperwork, it says, "You cannot generate electricity to sell it back to the power company, and in so doing, your device will be rendered useless."

If true, even though Keshe is out there saying, "Hey, have my free power!" -- He's also built in a dead-man switch in every device? I think this is deceitful.
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There is a lot going on with the Keshe Foundation i don't like. It seems more and more like a disinfo ploy to discourage us from the real deal or/and Just a group jumping on the free energy bandwagon for the money. The foundation is just racking in the dough, and we have yet to see a working device come out of it and being used for its intended purpose. I am just waiting to hear about a lawsuit against this foundations empty promises.

That is a prime example of what makes this real concept look bad to the general population. If people only took the time to dig a little deeper, they would find this concept is becoming reality once again. As in, the evidence is beginning to show this type of free energy without any moving parts has been around on this planet for a very long time. And we are just now starting to find out the truth.

This free energy is what will catapult us into the new year. It will completely change the way we view our lives as we know it now.
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When you are ready to discuss the real nature of energy *SCIENCE* and stop worshiping men you obviously know nothing about IE "Tesla"/ "Einstein" (both thieves btw) stole the majority of their great works from Cavandish (1776) but hey who cares right...as long as the mainstream has you convinced that they are great men of genius what does it really matter....

Oh & one more thing “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ZERO POINT ENERGY!!!” if you understood energy physics, quantum mechanics, whitaker mathematics, subatomic physics, molecular dynamics, and many other bits of understanding you do not have… you would not fall for this bunch of BS!!!
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When you are ready to discuss the real nature of energy *SCIENCE* and stop worshiping men you obviously know nothing about IE "Tesla"/ "Einstein" (both thieves btw) stole the majority of their great works from Cavandish (1776) but hey who cares right...as long as the mainstream has you convinced that they are great men of genius what does it really matter....

Oh & one more thing “THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ZERO POINT ENERGY!!!” if you understood energy physics, quantum mechanics, whitaker mathematics, subatomic physics, molecular dynamics, and many other bits of understanding you do not have… you would not fall for this bunch of BS!!!
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Well thats what happens when people and civilizations die off.

The next person or civilization comes along and takes the ideas, then claim they thought of it.

This world is nothing more than a cycle at best.

The multiverse' are questionable in my eyes.