When SHTF weapon suggestions for close encounters.

Maybe you should try doing research on that? Since it was sarcasm apparently you don't think it can be used in close range. Native americans found use in gun butts and turned them into war clubs pictured here

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they obviously can inflict much trauma. Also you mentioned krav maga...have you honestly trained in that they have many hand to hand combat techniques when you have a gun in your hand.

This is very true and not disagreeing at all, but if a woman on here is looking for advice I think it could be that they have a mindset that might facilitate a faster transition to being able to give heavy sooner. Do you teach self defense, or a specific martial art?

easy to spot you've never actually shot one...

Anyone who wants to learn to throw steel, here is a short video explaining how to. Any object can be used. Find Center and throw!

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Wrong quote, and I was just humbly asking what you trained in not trying to argue. I really hate talking about my experience on the internet, because all it is, is dick swinging and could easily be a lie to begin with. If you do want me to say my experience I will though.

This^^^ cept an 18" barrel and tactical mods along with a side arm, a machete and my trusty, never leave w/out it 8" Ka-Bar.

They would be kinda messy, but cold steel also makes a kick as Kukri blade. i love mine, I have 2.

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also for close combat, a tonfa like you showed is awesome if you know how to use it.

My absolute favorite is the M48 Hawk Axe

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If you threw that, it would knock a man off his feet and stick him to the wall. My K-Bar gives me goosebumps when I throw it.

I am going to get a metal baseball bat. I think I can swing a bat ok. I liked the hairspray idea.

you should have some type of gun. a .22LR rifle for getting food, and an AR-15 for fights. if you can't have both it would actually be better to have the 22LR because you will spend a lot more time searching for food than anything else, it is still good for something in a fight, but you will run out of ammo for your AR in no time and you will be starving. a handgun or shotgun isn't as valuable as a rifle. a shotgun is better for getting food, a handgun is the worst for getting food, and like the AR15, either of those will run out of ammo long before your 22LR rifle runs out. a handgun would be the right choice for someone who only needs to defend the house, staying inside it, only plans on using a little ammo to do that, and doesn't have to worry about food. a 22WMR is a bad idea because ammo is about as expensive as surplus 5.56/223, has 1/2 the power, and will actually be harder to find than 5.56/223 once the stores close. a 22WMR is impractical.

you MUST have some type of blade. you can do everything with a knife. it's also one of the best items to have for fighting since it's easily carried compared to a machete or sword and works in confined spaces like a hallway, bathroom or car. you can have a longer blade and a knife. a machete is not such a good idea because they are only about as effective as a knife in a fight, but they can't do the other tasks a knife can. the only reason you should want a machete is to clear away vegetation, which is what they are designed for. a kukri or large bowie is a good compromise, but a regular knife like a ka-bar is still better. if you want a bladed weapon strictly for fighting, get a sword. katanas are the best swords.

a club or baseball bat or mace or tire iron is not as good as any bladed weapon. it would be stupid to choose one of those when you can just as easily have a knife or sword.

if you can get whatever you want, get one of each. if you have limited funds, get a .22LR rifle, a few 500-round boxes of ammo, and a 7" sheath knife. then think about adding to your collection.

bullshit

a tomahawk isn't a good idea because a medium-length blade is more effective, such as a wakazashi or one of those old bayonets, they weigh less, but are the same size, and they are much easier to carry. and they can still be used for most tasks if you lose your sheath knife.

Tesla coil on your yard.

OMG...funny! Zapppp!

STFU Master.

How's the humble practice going retard. Get in the kitchen and make some lunch.

i like the big 6 cell maglites and they are easy to explain why you have one in your car or bag, unlike tonfas and nunchucks and big ass knives.

SHTF scenario AC aka economy collapses or whatever scenario you want to come up with. Maglites are badass though I give you that.

What is going on?

I'm kindof surprised that nobody has mentioned that 9mm handguns are practically useless against newly equipped Police and Military persons...unless you're a real crackshot, and can toss a bullet through known weakspots or unprotected areas on demand...

My formal hand-to-hand training is in Judo, which I did four nights a week for six years, competing in one or two heavy tournaments per month from my 6th month right on through to the end...I chose to walk away 2 months before my first black-belt judging....wish i didn't.

Kind of expected that when I read that.

Maybe soft armor but not type III-IV plates and maybe 50 to 100 but not 150

Snubnose .357 would be a better option. You can shoot .38 hot loads in it, or .357

My daughter carries one.

Just for the sheer awesomeness that it would be, I prefer the Zweihänder.

Now, back to real life... the best weapon would be a multi-purpose tool like a large knife/machete/axe that could be used as a weapon, cutting food, cutting sticks, can opener, cutting wire, etc etc you get where i'm going.

For a ranged weapon (non-gun), you could either be a master with an atl-atl OR just use a compound bow. Also, lawn darts would be pretty scary.

I could think of many weapons that would fare well in different cirumstances, .22 LR, 10 mm, etc so i'll just save it and say it all depends on what you prefer and the situation.

There's quite a bit of bullshit in this thread.
Allow me to address a few points.

Kubotans are absolute crap for a woman to depend on to defend herself, period. (Men for that matter) End of story. Kubotans were developed by Tak Kubota to assist police in restraining techniques. Any other use is fantasy and dangerous misinterpretation of what it was designed for.

Fucking tonfas are crap for fighting, unless you swing them like a club. Swinging from the handle is useless. Even cops don't want to carry PR-24s anymore. Go to a Dog Brothers meeting sometime and see how many guys prefer tonfas.

There is no such thing as having to carry an ID because you have trained extensively in martial arts. I don't give a fuck what you trained in. You are a fucking liar, lady.


Lester is right about carrying his .45 acp. Lester knows what the fuck he is talking about.

The shot to the throat advice is good, if you are bare handed.
It works.

Sorry if I sound like a fucking asshole. I don't want to see anyone develop a sense of confidence and get killed because they depended on a fucking keychain that only works in a classroom environment.

Keep it real.

stay home?

PVS-14, gen 3 night vision. You'll have an unfair advantage....

Saiga 12 by far

I am definitely not getting the keychain.