When SHTF weapon suggestions for close encounters.

... and you are misinformed.

Lol opinions and all that, smh.

That's a lie.

Hardly an opinion, Mister Billy badass.

I am not feeding anyone's fantasies of grandeur with loads of bullshit.

People do not function with fine motor skills under the stress of an adrenaline dump. Especially people carrying a fucking kubotan.

That is the real world. Even trained martial artists freeze up when put in a flight or fight situation.

I think there is a fight in the fight thread. I am definitely going to get a bat because this thread reminded me that I was going to get one.

My Eotech is about 8 months out of warranty and it's getting dim. So I contacted Eotech and told em about the problem. They sent me an RMA number today and said there would be no charge for the repair. It's a close quarters holographic illuminated rifle scope. Hope they get it back to me before the balloon goes up.....

I am posting this information for the sake of those reading here on GLP. I enjoy the discussions and the data generated, so it is only fair that I give something back from time to time.

Extensive military worldwide research has borne out the following:

Firepower is superior for suppression, but not necessarily for killing.

Killing is superior for local problem elimination, but not necessarily for the permanent elimination of problems.

Wounding is far superior as a standoff technique, but not necessarily effective as killing.

Firepower is only effective over the mid to long term if resupply is guaranteed, but a negative multiplier without.

Resupply is the main predictor of victory, but not in the face of a fast and superior destructive force.

It is always more efficient to defend.

It is always more costly to attack a well defended foe.

A fast, determined, ruthless, and militarily superior attack force is always the route to conquest, regardless of the defensive force.

A defensive force may only draw or win if as fast, determined, ruthless and militarily equal as those attacking.

Tactics are always overrated unless a one-to-one equivalent can be drawn in speed, equipment, and ruthlessness of the individual.


So, you may ask, why is this important for you as an individual??

Read these factual statements, be very specific with yourself what your potential situation is over time, then you may return and as your question.

You must ask the right question.

Reference Robert (Bob) Fish for your contact with the corporation.

I've missed you honey.
You should post more often.

Of course.

Intelligence and help on the side is appreciated.

aren't those felonious?

Yeah but they can do some damage if you don't get fancy with them.

A HK MP7 would be ideal however a fantasy. Ive often thought however it would be great to have a sub in .17hmr ballistic tips. Those things blow a roo's head clean apart. The .17 is no good for rapid positive ejection though due to case expansion.

Since you're in the states though:

Saiga shotty

1911

I always joke with my parents that if there was any sort of SHTF moment I would grab my sister's field hockey stick.

That thing is like your war club on steroids. Plus, they are very sturdy.

it all depends on what your style is...

for close quarters, i like knives. kerambits are especially nice

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mid range i like chucks(metal) or a good machete,broadswoard or katana,

long range, im going with a spear, but a good naginata will do.

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I want a good recurve bow as well.

Throwing weapons are also good, slingshots are highly underestimated.

Another cool weapon is the sling [link to www.primitiveways.com]

And of course the silent and deadly blowgun. illegal in most states.

I can't understand this thread, I only clicked on it because i thought it had to do with UFOs.....

First of all the name isn't about me just from a movie I very much like, and it's ironic sarcasm to how many people act on the internet. And your comments to the kubotan, is not true its very easily concealable so the attacker does not see it, and an aim to a boney spot say the shoulder, rib, cheek, jaw, knee etc etc will break that bone. Just a matter of playing innocence till the time to strike, many attackers of women leave themselves open...A LOT. Also with the tonfa's...really not effective unless you swing them like a baseball bat? Your body's natural reaction is to do what when faced with danger? Bring your hands up and protect with your forearms the tonfa reinforces that part of your body to take SIGNIFICANT less damage to that area and allows for a counter attack. Also attacks from it don't hurt?

Tell me those strikes wouldn't put someone down? Not only put someone down but do you see how much lack of wind up it has? Where as most all other blunt weapons you have drawback? This one has non and is still devastating. Want me to go on about how your wrong?

No it's about self-defense weapons.

Legal weapons: kubotan can really mess you up.. [link to www.tbotech.com]

tazer

mace/pepperspray/teargas,etc. good as a distraction.

cane/walkingstick.

leather gloves to protect from lacerations and disease.

lighter/hairspray.

pocket knife

screwdriver

pencil/pen

Are you kidding? a kubotan in the right hands can easily kill you.

Lol not according to AC, and Tonfa's have no significant blow unless swung like a baseball bat either.

Well, if you think you can adequately defend yourself with blunt instruments in a SHTF situation, then maybe it would be better if you took your own advice.

While you are standing there with your Louisville Slugger, people will be running around with AK's and Mossbergs.

Thats hilarious. A tonfa takes skill. its not something you just pick up and swing. Ac is a dumas

what happens when you run out of ammo?

Well it can actually be a very basic weapon. It's design is perfect for natural reaction gets your arms up and block with forearm, and the end allows for punching which is much more devastating than a fist, and you dont risk breaking your hand. Also hitting with the forearm portion is easy. Advanced locks and strikes yea it definitely takes practice, but basic techniques can be picked up in a week.

Are you one of those guys that post on self defense vids always saying "hurr durr you would never get close enough to be able to pull that stuff on me". Tell you what lets just say someone was wanting to do more, and assault you instead of stand back and shoot you first. They tell you to put down your gun and get on your knee's what are you going to do then?

ive seen it swung in a circular motion as well from the handhold. there are also traps and locks from the batswinging position, so yep youre right, it can be, but only a pure amateur would do that. im a chucker, so i know next to nothing about tonfa techniques.

im good with a knife/kubotan though. I know fo a fact that they are equally lethal.

Oh yea all weapons can be equally lethal, it just depends on preference more than anything. I love Kubotan's for women's self defense, easily concealable and can boil down to basic hammerfist...all they have to aim for is a boney spot and that joint/bone is done.

When I take my Boxer Chopper for a walk, the only weapon
I pack is an icepick.

Me and Chopper can handle anything close up.