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Message Subject I'm a little teapot
Poster Handle ArmchairObserver
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I solidly believe the MK Ultra conspiracy theory was designed as part of Clinton's crazy "Vast right wing conspiracy" crap. Those liberals are evil. What kind of people propagate this garbage. From Reagan to Bush 2 to Gov Palin these people have been unconscionably slandered. Really look at what these people are saying, only the sickest minds could think these things up. I can't believe people actually believe this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22082088

Clinton had crap all to do with us. For me, it started in 1975. That's about 20 years before Clinton was elected and Ford would have been in office. Personally, I don't think any politician had anything to do with it. Look at the MK-ULTRA hearings in the mid 70's. I truly believe that Congress was unaware of what was being done to people for a very long time since the 50's, I think. Part of the reason is that they were blanketing what they were doing back then under the auspice of national security. National security is a great encompassing blanket that basically can obscure activities that won't see the light of day.

Let me ask you something. Do you believe that the government would treat children like guinea pigs?
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver

No I don't believe it. The US government did not rape and torture children to create brainwashed CIA agents and high level prostitutes, I mean really? You believe that? From what I understand it ended in 1964 and was actually carried out by universities to test various drugs on peoples minds. But hey keep living the fantasy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22082088

It was a CIA/DoD project and there is plenty of documentation of that. That particular project group ended in 1973, which is 2 years before whatever happened with me started to happen. Just because one project ended does not mean that another one didn't start up. Some of the things that they were doing in MK-ULTRA are research areas that were most likely expanded on and allegedly used in interrogation just a few years ago, if not today still.

I have zero recollection of sex abuse but I do have recollection of some pretty bizarre abuse. I agree with you, actually, in that I do not think that their intentions are necessarily what is advertised on the web ad nauseam. I'm no CIA agent and I sure as hell am not a high level prostitute. I honestly don't know what the hell they did with me. That's part of the problem. I'm a logic beast and you can actually look at my posts on other threads to see that that is true. Historically, I've been a trasher of conspiracy theories. Want to talk embroiled into an ideal? That was me just a year ago. I was the granddaughter of a very high ranked military officer and somebody whose roots are pre-Mayflower. Patriotism was my middle name. Now I feel like I'm the biggest sheep that ever was because no matter how differently colored I thought my wool was, I was duped at a far deeper level than most.

So heavy debunker and major patriot. I find the irony to be quite fitting and I guess karma really is a bitch. I've tried to debunk everything that I have been finding within my own life for the past 8 months and I have found I can't. And you bet they use universities for this stuff. Not disagreeing with you one bit there. If it's simply some form of research, then it's, at the least, unethical research being funded by the government on some level. The reason that why I say that was my grandfather, my biggest hero, was most likely the one who sold me out.

Our government does not always hold what we hold sacred to be sacred themselves. It's like the AIDS drug testing that went on for 20 years on foster children through federal funding. It had far higher than normal incidence of death for the children. Our most vulnerable class that we could possibly have in this country--foster children. If they can do that, what else can they do?
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