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War to return to balkans

 
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10/10/2012 08:47 AM
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Today Germany blocked Ascension talks for Serbia to join the e.u.
Serbia has done everything asked of it bt the e.u.However even though 5 eu member states dont recognize kosovos independence,which is contrary to international law and resolution 1244.

Germany was/is the only blocking member for Serbias membership.

The Serbian president is not in emergency session with the democratically elected members of the government.

A strategic pact is to be formed with Russia at years end,and Serbia is to drop pursuit of e.u. membership.

This will open invitation for Russia to place a military base in kosovo,that Russia recognizes as sovereign territory of Serbia.A platform will be built upon where Serbia can then remove the illegitimate us backed terrorists in pristina.

Last time around,the yeltsin (us rent-boy) tucked tail and brought shame on Russia.

This will not happen under Putin.
WWIII is just around the corner,brought to you by GERMANY!

Its properly not safe to be in Serbia is Your German right now!
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10/10/2012 08:47 AM
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10/10/2012 08:49 AM
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relax serbian. the gov is doing this. i personally dont give a fuck about you and who controls your ass. russia or eu whatever
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10/10/2012 08:53 AM
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Can you tell me why serbia is so keen to join the broke failing EU anyway? look at Greece, Spain, Portugal
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10/10/2012 08:54 AM
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Serbia is weak lol
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10/10/2012 08:55 AM
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Annoying how history repeats itself. Germany will never learn.
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10/10/2012 08:57 AM
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Today Germany blocked Ascension talks for Serbia to join the e.u.
Serbia has done everything asked of it bt the e.u.However even though 5 eu member states dont recognize kosovos independence,which is contrary to international law and resolution 1244.

Germany was/is the only blocking member for Serbias membership.

The Serbian president is not in emergency session with the democratically elected members of the government.

A strategic pact is to be formed with Russia at years end,and Serbia is to drop pursuit of e.u. membership.

This will open invitation for Russia to place a military base in kosovo,that Russia recognizes as sovereign territory of Serbia.A platform will be built upon where Serbia can then remove the illegitimate us backed terrorists in pristina.

Last time around,the yeltsin (us rent-boy) tucked tail and brought shame on Russia.

This will not happen under Putin.
WWIII is just around the corner,brought to you by GERMANY!

Its properly not safe to be in Serbia is Your German right now!
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Why the fuk would Serbia want to join that clusterfuk?
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10/10/2012 08:58 AM
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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
Thor's Hamster

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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


And, need I even mention, the post-war treatment of Germany which led to the rise of National Socialism and Hitler.

Also, WWI taxed the Russian czar's resources, so the communist revolution had an easier time of succeeding in Russia.

ONE BULLET caused all that.

A little known fact about that day in June 1914 in Sarajevo. The assassin, Gavrilo Princip, tried to assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand earlier that day, BUT FAILED. Some of the Archduke's retinue thought he best he cancel the rest of his trip, but he insisted on continuing. A few hours later, Gavrilo Princip succeeded in assassinating him. I personally think there's much more to the story than we've conventionally led to believe. I think Gavrilo was working for a group or entity that we haven't been told about.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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10/10/2012 09:04 AM
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Serbia President Tomislav Nikolic met with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, twice in just a month.

During his stay in Russia, Nikolic told the media that he was "a great Russophile," adding, "the only country I love more than Russia is Serbia." His comments fuelled talk in Belgrade of whether the new government was abandoning the road to the EU and turning to Russia.

Former Serbian Ambassador to France Predrag Simic said it was not certain if Belgrade was making a strategic turn toward Moscow, or if this was just a tactic due to the economic crisis and pressure from the EU over Kosovo.

"The EU itself is in crisis and further integration is losing popularity in Serbia. On the other hand, pressure regarding Kosovo primarily from Germany has increased since the election of the new government. That is why it is somewhat understandable that it is addressing Moscow, which can help in solving economic problems," Simic said.

Aleksandra Joksimovic, head of the Belgrade Centre for Foreign Policy, said it was normal for Belgrade to turn to Russia for economic aid because some EU member states, such as Cyprus, were doing the same.

"But the EU will not tolerate any sort of preferential access given to Russian companies in Serbia. That is why it is important that Russia, because of its support for [Serbia's] Kosovo policy, is not given privileged access to the sale of Serbian companies, as that is something that definitely would not be approved of in the EU, which is still Serbia's chief trade partner," Joksimovic told SETimes.

Russian officials do not hide their satisfaction with developments.

"The prospect of our co-operation is immense. But everything will depend on the readiness of the parties involved to realize that prospect fully, which I hope everyone involved in the work will do," said Alexander Konuzin, outgoing Russian ambassador to Belgrade.

Erhard Busek, former co-ordinator of the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, said Serbia's relationship with Russia is cause for concern.

"I have a feeling that Serbia, and particularly its politicians, are constantly waiting for Europe to adjust to Serbia, instead of the other way around," he said. "One can see the new government turning to Russia, which I think is not good, because Serbia belongs in the EU."

Comment:'Erhard Busek,should tell that to 'Fraukraut merkel'

[link to setimes.com]

Towards the end of Kosovo status negotiations in 2007 and 2008 the Serbian political scene was filled with
historically frequent, yet unusually intensive surge of enthusiasm towards Russia, its interests, priorities,
and its Western Balkans policy. Praises of the modern day Russia and its internal political model became
a common practice, which further led to a greater perception, among Serbian citizens, of Russia being a
key political resource that Serbia could seriously rely upon. However, all these commendations, wishes
and activities, were rather based on emotional and irrational grounds. They were formed by the historical
closeness of the two peoples (defined by ethnicity, not by citizenship), and the common religious and
cultural heritage, which were, according to this logic, easy to be transferred to the political level. Reasons
for this increased enthusiasm naturally lay in the unresolved Kosovo status issue, but also in the rising
number of economic and political problems. Russia has been perceived, as many times before in Serbian
history, as a protector, with a sufficient political and economic capacity to help resolve Serbian problems.

[link to www.google.rs]
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10/10/2012 09:07 AM
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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Don't forget how in WWII it was Nazi Germany that installed the Croatian government.
Whats more disturbing is that the division of the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990's the very same people were (members of the 1940's Nazi party in Croatia) were ordered and armed by ...wait for it.....GERMANY.
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10/10/2012 09:11 AM
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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


And, need I even mention, the post-war treatment of Germany which led to the rise of National Socialism and Hitler.

Also, WWI taxed the Russian czar's resources, so the communist revolution had an easier time of succeeding in Russia.

ONE BULLET caused all that.

A little known fact about that day in June 1914 in Sarajevo. The assassin, Gavrilo Princip, tried to assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand earlier that day, BUT FAILED. Some of the Archduke's retinue thought he best he cancel the rest of his trip, but he insisted on continuing. A few hours later, Gavrilo Princip succeeded in assassinating him. I personally think there's much more to the story than we've conventionally led to believe. I think Gavrilo was working for a group or entity that we haven't been told about.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Agreed the treaty of Versailles pushed Germany into a corner because of financial demands to make reparations it could not meet.
Just as Germany today is doing to Greece,Spain,and soon Portugal,Italy,Ireland.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Thor's Hamster

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10/10/2012 09:20 AM
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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Don't forget how in WWII it was Nazi Germany that installed the Croatian government.
Whats more disturbing is that the division of the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990's the very same people were (members of the 1940's Nazi party in Croatia) were ordered and armed by ...wait for it.....GERMANY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25137504


Yes, true. Good points.
Apollo astronauts couldn't have passed through Van Allen's Belt. Van Allen wore suspenders.
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10/10/2012 09:28 AM
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Comment just in from 'Ivica Dačić' (Serbian Prime Minister)

Dačić specified that the "upsetting" formulation was not in fact contained in the EC report, but "in another EU document". However, he did not reveal which document he had in mind.

The Serbian prime minister also noted that he would ask EU Enlargement Commissioner Stefan Fule - who is due to arrive in Belgrade - to comment on whether the "territorial integrity" reference represented a new condition for Serbia, and stressed that the country found new conditions "unacceptable".

[link to www.b92.net]
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10/10/2012 09:33 AM
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I wonder if there's still animosity from WWI. Damn you, Gavrilo Princip! Look at all the chaos and trouble you've caused.

Actually, that's sort of true. Just think...one assassin's bullet assassinating the crown prince of the Austro-Hungarian Empire while he was visiting Sarajevo, and we have WWI, which led to the Balfour Declaration and European jews to the Holy Land, and the destruction of the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which led to the British and French carving up of the middle east into pretty ridiculous nation-states, with little regard for religions, clans, tribes, etc.

Nice going, Gavrilo.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Don't forget how in WWII it was Nazi Germany that installed the Croatian government.
Whats more disturbing is that the division of the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990's the very same people were (members of the 1940's Nazi party in Croatia) were ordered and armed by ...wait for it.....GERMANY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25137504


Yes, true. Good points.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Also to note,it was osama ben ladin that was in Sarajevo,to break up that region from Yugoslavia.Then Kosovo,a proxy of the Albanian Muslims.The self installed president of Kosovo is still under investigation for taking out organs from live Serbians while fleeing the onslaught and sold to Turkey on the Black Market after 1st passing through Albania.
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10/10/2012 09:57 AM
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You seem too caught up in politics. The average person here has no issue with what Serbia does or doesn't do. They just want to live their lives in peace.

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