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hey astro, do you still put up live videos from your scope?
cool find BTW
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Your Amazing Astro!!! Thank you bumpblwkss
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Nice. What magnitude is that object?
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Dim. Really dim. I haven't done the photometry on it, but it's dim even in a 10 minute image from a half meter scope with 2x2 binning on a CCD with 9um pixels and a .66 focal reducer. That's dim. I'm going to say mag 19+ and that's probably a bit conservative.

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Trin, if you're still watching this thread, is there any way you can get the 20" to point at something tonight?
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You're the man astro!!!

and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos...

Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done..

When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it...

I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker!

The world needs you!
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Thanks man! I appreciate the support.
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First Dog is space was Russian dog named Latka, I believe.
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waiting....debunk


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Old bullshit from July - debunked before.

Sorry, I'm to lazy to look through the old threads.
If you want it debunked, do your own search.



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"Old bullshit from July" Damm, you must be ancient
Can't debunk.
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Notice how Astro didn't answer my question?

That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore.

I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree.

"Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way.

Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing.
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Notice how Astro didn't answer my question?

That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore.

I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree.

"Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way.

Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing.
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Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost.
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You're the man astro!!!

and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos...

Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done..

When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it...

I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker!

The world needs you!
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Trinity, I have been coming here on and off since 'ole Ken had this site many moons ago. That being said, I have read some great posts here and every now and then I find a good one myself and I pass it on. This is one of those I think I will pass on for all to read.

[link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk]

I think this is the most in depth and facinating info I have read in a very very long time. It ties in so many lose ends.

Enjoy, pass it on....

[link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk]
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Notice how Astro didn't answer my question?

That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore.

I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree.

"Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way.

Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing.
 Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803


Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment...
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Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Good luck for your follow up observations.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Notice how Astro didn't answer my question?

That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore.

I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree.

"Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way.

Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing.
 Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803


Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Ok, thought you were dissing me, as I really am interested in your opinion. The ASU astronomers I was lucky to talk to both said that the subject came up in their recent lectures from the students. Maybe a GLPr?

So you know, they don't believe it's a brown dwarf or any other kind of subclass star pushing the debris this way. They are stumped for answers too. But they both did agree that something is causing us to have in increase in meteors and comets from the same part of space. To be determined I suppose. Since this is common knowledge, I was curious to hear your professional opinion as to what may be the cause?

That is all, thanks.
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Geeses
Lens flare
Sun dog

Just employing some human humor.

Congratulations Dr. Astro, name it Nibiru...
Born of the Cosmos...

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Geeses
Lens flare
Sun dog
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this^^^
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To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

Luca 21:28 "Ma quando queste cose cominceranno ad accadere, guardate in alto e alzate i vostri sguardi, perché la vostra liberazione è vicina".
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Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Nevertheless, good job, and thank you. I am actually keeping others updated through your diligence and observation.
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Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Good luck for your follow up observations.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.


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Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth:
[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]
For the record here are the astrometric readings and times:
October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0"
October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2"
October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1"

These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes.
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Wow 7 years? That is lost a long time!

What are these telescope like. does it work having a internet telescope?

Hope you can find a asteroid next time and name it.

[link to www.itelescope.net]
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Wow 7 years? That is lost a long time!

What are these telescope like. does it work having a internet telescope?

Hope you can find a asteroid next time and name it.

[link to www.itelescope.net]
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The scopes are great, they're all high end equipment, so if you can afford to rent them they can accomplish a lot.
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Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth:
[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]
For the record here are the astrometric readings and times:
October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0"
October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2"
October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1"

These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt
about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings
perspective!

I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics,
are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'?
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Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth:
[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]
For the record here are the astrometric readings and times:
October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0"
October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2"
October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1"

These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt
about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings
perspective!

I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics,
are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'?
 Quoting: fellowearthling

Well if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I'm more familiar with Pearson correlation coefficients than Phi coefficients, but that's mainly a function of my job rather than astronomy. It's all related though, statistical analysis is very important in the process of reducing the data.
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Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth:
[link to www.minorplanetcenter.net]
For the record here are the astrometric readings and times:
October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0"
October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2"
October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1"

These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt
about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings
perspective!

I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics,
are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'?
 Quoting: fellowearthling

Well if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I'm more familiar with Pearson correlation coefficients than Phi coefficients, but that's mainly a function of my job rather than astronomy. It's all related though, statistical analysis is very important in the process of reducing the data.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I'll have to read up on Pearson correlation co-efficients...

My understanding was a body's mass determined it's distance
from the Sun and that Phi was used in calculating this ~
I'm an astronomical bunny when it comes to the math, so I
could be way off... still fascinates me none-the-less.

Thank you for all your valuable and sane input to this forum,
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Notice how Astro didn't answer my question?

That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore.

I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree.

"Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way.

Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing.
 Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803


Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Ok, thought you were dissing me, as I really am interested in your opinion. The ASU astronomers I was lucky to talk to both said that the subject came up in their recent lectures from the students. Maybe a GLPr?

So you know, they don't believe it's a brown dwarf or any other kind of subclass star pushing the debris this way. They are stumped for answers too. But they both did agree that something is causing us to have in increase in meteors and comets from the same part of space. To be determined I suppose. Since this is common knowledge, I was curious to hear your professional opinion as to what may be the cause?

That is all, thanks.
 Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803

I made a video of the New Asteroids since January 2011. The only anomaly I see is that we haven't caught up to where the observations began. This gives the appearance of a 'thin' spot directly ahead of the Earths Orbit.



BTW, Nice work Astro. I'll look at your new position and see if there is anything close.
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You're the man astro!!!

and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos...

Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done..

When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it...

I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker!

The world needs you!
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^^THIS
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It's a weather baloon

Nothing to see here. Go ahead.

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So cool. You must be excited.
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what2
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To dream is to believe in the power of love.
To love is to believe in yourself.

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