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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dim. Really dim. I haven't done the photometry on it, but it's dim even in a 10 minute image from a half meter scope with 2x2 binning on a CCD with 9um pixels and a .66 focal reducer. That's dim. I'm going to say mag 19+ and that's probably a bit conservative. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/10/2012 07:33 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5248308 United States 10/10/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're the man astro!!! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos... Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done.. When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it... I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker! The world needs you! Thanks man! I appreciate the support. First Dog is space was Russian dog named Latka, I believe. |
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DrumrDude User ID: 21083803 United States 10/10/2012 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how Astro didn't answer my question? That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore. I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree. "Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way. Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21194470 United States 10/10/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how Astro didn't answer my question? Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore. I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree. "Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way. Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost. |
Angel Helper User ID: 24357668 United States 10/10/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're the man astro!!! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos... Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done.. When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it... I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker! The world needs you! Trinity, I have been coming here on and off since 'ole Ken had this site many moons ago. That being said, I have read some great posts here and every now and then I find a good one myself and I pass it on. This is one of those I think I will pass on for all to read. [link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk] I think this is the most in depth and facinating info I have read in a very very long time. It ties in so many lose ends. Enjoy, pass it on.... [link to unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk] Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how Astro didn't answer my question? Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore. I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree. "Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way. Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing. Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment... |
Hydra User ID: 25336478 Germany 10/10/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost. Quoting: Dr. Astro Good luck for your follow up observations. I'll keep my fingers crossed. . :ase26122019: Annular Solar Eclipse - December 26, 2019 - Kannur, Kerala, India |
DrumrDude User ID: 21083803 United States 10/10/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how Astro didn't answer my question? Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore. I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree. "Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way. Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing. Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment... Ok, thought you were dissing me, as I really am interested in your opinion. The ASU astronomers I was lucky to talk to both said that the subject came up in their recent lectures from the students. Maybe a GLPr? So you know, they don't believe it's a brown dwarf or any other kind of subclass star pushing the debris this way. They are stumped for answers too. But they both did agree that something is causing us to have in increase in meteors and comets from the same part of space. To be determined I suppose. Since this is common knowledge, I was curious to hear your professional opinion as to what may be the cause? That is all, thanks. |
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18328 User ID: 23403450 United States 10/10/2012 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost. Quoting: Dr. Astro Nevertheless, good job, and thank you. I am actually keeping others updated through your diligence and observation. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well here's the story, it doesn't appear that the coordinates of this object match well with the previous orbit of the comet I was looking for. It appears that it may be a new object. Unfortunately, with only 2 images collected so far, it's impossible to accurately calculate the orbit. I can at least project where it should be if it continues with the same velocity it had last night. That's good enough to find it on a successive night like tonight, but not necessarily good enough as the nights go on. So hopefully I can find a way to reacquire it tonight and compute the orbit, otherwise it has a good chance of being lost. Quoting: Dr. Astro Good luck for your follow up observations. I'll keep my fingers crossed. . Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth: [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] For the record here are the astrometric readings and times: October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0" October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2" October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1" These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16926564 Australia 10/10/2012 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow 7 years? That is lost a long time! What are these telescope like. does it work having a internet telescope? Hope you can find a asteroid next time and name it. [link to www.itelescope.net] |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow 7 years? That is lost a long time! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16926564 What are these telescope like. does it work having a internet telescope? Hope you can find a asteroid next time and name it. [link to www.itelescope.net] The scopes are great, they're all high end equipment, so if you can afford to rent them they can accomplish a lot. |
fellowearthling User ID: 25340909 New Zealand 10/10/2012 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] For the record here are the astrometric readings and times: October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0" October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2" October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1" These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes. Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings perspective! I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics, are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'? "If you do not go within You WILL go without." A wiser man than I "Standing on truth Ensures eternal support." "There is a perfectly logical explanation for everything and a logically perfect everything for explanations." A phellow earthling |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 10/10/2012 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] For the record here are the astrometric readings and times: October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0" October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2" October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1" These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes. Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings perspective! I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics, are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'? Well if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I'm more familiar with Pearson correlation coefficients than Phi coefficients, but that's mainly a function of my job rather than astronomy. It's all related though, statistical analysis is very important in the process of reducing the data. |
fellowearthling User ID: 25340909 New Zealand 10/11/2012 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Managed to recover the object tonight using the data from last night. Using the new astrometric data I have ID'ed it as asteroid 2001 LS8. Oh well, at least now I know what it is! As I've been suspecting for the last few hours, it is a main belt asteroid, and don't worry, it doesn't come anywhere near earth: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] For the record here are the astrometric readings and times: October 10.08446 UT RA: 19h 35m 26.20s Dec: -12d 54' 35.0" October 10.10497 UT RA: 19h 35m 27.10s Dec: -12d 54' 34.2" October 11.09427 UT RA: 19h 36m 10.08s Dec: -12d 53' 01.1" These readings are in tight agreement with the orbit of 2001 LS8. It's not a total loss; I'll put these together and send them off to the MPC since this asteroid hasn't been reported on in about 7 years. This will establish my ability to do high precision astrometry with the MPC and expedite the process for getting the GLP observatory an MPC code of its own when the time comes. Well done on resolving your finds identity. There's no doubt about your astronomical abilities from this earthlings perspective! I understand Phi features quite heavily in celestial mechanics, are you able to elaborate on how, without being too 'heavy'? Well if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, I'm more familiar with Pearson correlation coefficients than Phi coefficients, but that's mainly a function of my job rather than astronomy. It's all related though, statistical analysis is very important in the process of reducing the data. I'll have to read up on Pearson correlation co-efficients... My understanding was a body's mass determined it's distance from the Sun and that Phi was used in calculating this ~ I'm an astronomical bunny when it comes to the math, so I could be way off... still fascinates me none-the-less. Thank you for all your valuable and sane input to this forum, level heads help shine light into the shadows around these parts! "If you do not go within You WILL go without." A wiser man than I "Standing on truth Ensures eternal support." "There is a perfectly logical explanation for everything and a logically perfect everything for explanations." A phellow earthling |
TBar1984 User ID: 13725461 United States 10/11/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how Astro didn't answer my question? Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 That is interesting. He should consider me a friend since I stuck up for him so many times. Won't do that anymore. I knew something was up. There is an increase in meteors and comets, all coming from the same area in space. I already knew the answer to this after talking to several pro astronomers I know - they agree. "Something" is causing an increase in debris heading this way, and it is coming from one area in the Kuiper belt. Seems something is pushing debris this way. Apparently, I have struck upon something he isn't keen on discussing. Dude, I'm a little busy at the moment... Ok, thought you were dissing me, as I really am interested in your opinion. The ASU astronomers I was lucky to talk to both said that the subject came up in their recent lectures from the students. Maybe a GLPr? So you know, they don't believe it's a brown dwarf or any other kind of subclass star pushing the debris this way. They are stumped for answers too. But they both did agree that something is causing us to have in increase in meteors and comets from the same part of space. To be determined I suppose. Since this is common knowledge, I was curious to hear your professional opinion as to what may be the cause? That is all, thanks. I made a video of the New Asteroids since January 2011. The only anomaly I see is that we haven't caught up to where the observations began. This gives the appearance of a 'thin' spot directly ahead of the Earths Orbit. BTW, Nice work Astro. I'll look at your new position and see if there is anything close. |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 25242835 Australia 10/11/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're the man astro!!! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ and don't stop debunking the morans who make those bullshit videos... Not many people have the skills to do it and it needs to be done.. When real space doom comes people will be so desensitized to it from the fakers that they won't believe it... I've always said when Astro confirms space doom I'm heading for the bunker! The world needs you! ^^THIS "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
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