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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 10/10/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Honestly, I rather enjoyed not having electricity for a couple weeks -- after getting used to it the first couple of days. Was so nice & quiet. Quoting: Lady Jane Smith What did I really miss? My jacuzzi bath! Tough to get the jacuzzi going without electricty for sure. I'll be using a variation of the "bag-shower" natureboy was talking about earlier. Thats about the best you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2038759 Ireland 10/10/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Really no need to worry about such a scenario happening OP. Quoting: youtube god! 2038759 I used to fear this a lot until I watched a BBC Horizon programme that sorts the facts from the crap. (go on youtube and search horizon solar storms , infact here it is, [link to www.youtube.com] Now at first it seems real scary but when you actually consider the massive efforts that are constantly been undertaken to predict and counter act such a scenario,you will see that we have plenty of time to do things about it. It will happen but we can know when it does and we can take pre-emptive actions to avoid a total blackout. There are lots of things to worry about,but not this one! Me I am more nervous about an Alien invasion! Look up the speed in which the Carrington event happened. If a sun spot was earth facing and exploded with a flare the size or the Carrinton or larger, we'd have no time to prepare. It hit very quickly. I have read books on the subject my friend, I am not an expert but I have learned a lot about it and its not going to effect us as badly as you think. The Carrington event was indeed huge but it still took 17 hrs to reach the Earth.... Plenty of time to sort out our Transformers. Also you have to bear in mind that back in 1859 our power systems were DC, that reacts differently to Solar disruption. I am not saying there wont be some disruption especially to our Satellites but it wont knock us back to the dark ages! Honestly,take a look at the documentary I linked to , its BBC horizon,not junk science. |
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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Honestly, I rather enjoyed not having electricity for a couple weeks -- after getting used to it the first couple of days. Was so nice & quiet. Quoting: Lady Jane Smith What did I really miss? My jacuzzi bath! Problem solved! I have lots of propane to heat water and pounds and pounds of dried beans. lol!! :Your Kidding!!!!: Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Honestly, I rather enjoyed not having electricity for a couple weeks -- after getting used to it the first couple of days. Was so nice & quiet. Quoting: Lady Jane Smith What did I really miss? My jacuzzi bath! Once again Lady Jane, I have to say...very nive NEW av photo. Awwww! Thanks! I'll let my sis know her work is appreciated :o) Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 10/10/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Really no need to worry about such a scenario happening OP. Quoting: youtube god! 2038759 I used to fear this a lot until I watched a BBC Horizon programme that sorts the facts from the crap. (go on youtube and search horizon solar storms , infact here it is, [link to www.youtube.com] Now at first it seems real scary but when you actually consider the massive efforts that are constantly been undertaken to predict and counter act such a scenario,you will see that we have plenty of time to do things about it. It will happen but we can know when it does and we can take pre-emptive actions to avoid a total blackout. There are lots of things to worry about,but not this one! Me I am more nervous about an Alien invasion! Look up the speed in which the Carrington event happened. If a sun spot was earth facing and exploded with a flare the size or the Carrinton or larger, we'd have no time to prepare. It hit very quickly. I have read books on the subject my friend, I am not an expert but I have learned a lot about it and its not going to effect us as badly as you think. The Carrington event was indeed huge but it still took 17 hrs to reach the Earth.... Plenty of time to sort out our Transformers. Also you have to bear in mind that back in 1859 our power systems were DC, that reacts differently to Solar disruption. I am not saying there wont be some disruption especially to our Satellites but it wont knock us back to the dark ages! Honestly,take a look at the documentary I linked to , its BBC horizon,not junk science. 17 hours, thats correct. Please, and I do not mean to be rude, but don't be fooled into thinking the word would spread, and people would work like robots in enough time to power down grids etc... It would only take a couple of grids to effect the others...like dominos. It would take hours to spread the word. Once it hit the MSM people would panic making powering down even harder in many places. Its not enough time. |
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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Younger, married and an avid kayaker. Sorry :o( OBTW, we look almost exactly alike -- except I am 5"3", she is 5"7". Waaaaaah!!! Why did I have to be the short one????!!!!!! LOL!! Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 10/10/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Younger, married and an avid kayaker. Sorry :o( OBTW, we look almost exactly alike -- except I am 5"3", she is 5"7". Waaaaaah!!! Why did I have to be the short one????!!!!!! LOL!! Petite is better, I'm sure most men would agree. I'm 6", BLack belt since I was 17 in Uechi Ryu Karate. I believe you are also a Martial Artist. Maybe you and I will spare some day...just for kicks (pun intended) |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? OBTW, we look almost exactly alike -- except I am 5"3", she is 5"7". Waaaaaah!!! Why did I have to be the short one????!!!!!! LOL!! Petite is better, I'm sure most men would agree. I'm 6", BLack belt since I was 17 in Uechi Ryu Karate. I believe you are also a Martial Artist. Maybe you and I will spare some day...just for kicks (pun intended) That would be fun! 3rd Dan WTF/TKD, advanced Krav practitioner. Be forewarned -- I can headshot a 6 ft guy with a jump crescent ;o) Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 10/10/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? OBTW, we look almost exactly alike -- except I am 5"3", she is 5"7". Waaaaaah!!! Why did I have to be the short one????!!!!!! LOL!! Petite is better, I'm sure most men would agree. I'm 6", BLack belt since I was 17 in Uechi Ryu Karate. I believe you are also a Martial Artist. Maybe you and I will spare some day...just for kicks (pun intended) That would be fun! 3rd Dan WTF/TKD, advanced Krav practitioner. Be forewarned -- I can headshot a 6 ft guy with a jump crescent ;o) I appreciate the warning. I have always enjoyed mixed art sparing. Not so much complete UFC, but Karate/TKD or Karate/Kung-fu etc... I'm a Nidan myself (2nd degree). Don't get to the Dojo as much at this point in my life, but still once or twice a week...occasionally more. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1953737 United States 10/10/2012 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Cold? Carry in wood to burn from the 3 to 6 chords of wood you had to split in the summer/early fall. Hot in the summer, sweat it out on the porch, or find water to cool off in. Mans greatest invention and biggest comfort giver, gone. Most people in the desert would die before they could walk to a more temperate climate. Even without a nuke, there would be hundreds of thousands of corpses in Vegas. Yes, I would miss that most. As the amount of work required simply to regulate our local environment would go from sliding the lever on the thermostat to near full time job. The elderly and weak would perish simply from the temperature extremes placed upon their bodies. Sad outcome to contemplate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2038759 Ireland 10/10/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? 17 hours, thats correct. Please, and I do not mean to be rude, but don't be fooled into thinking the word would spread, and people would work like robots in enough time to power down grids etc... It would only take a couple of grids to effect the others...like dominos. It would take hours to spread the word. Once it hit the MSM people would panic making powering down even harder in many places. Its not enough time. I agree that 17 hrs is not enough time. That is why there is Sonar sound-wave technology actually listening to the sunspot activity on the Sun.... this way we get at least a couple days notice of any dangerous changes and we are rapidly getting to the point where we will get a weeks notice and more. Its all there on the documentary, look at it when you get a chance, another piece of interesting science from the same programme is that we dont actually even power down our transformers, we power em up! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 6406905 Canada 10/10/2012 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? 17 hours, thats correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2038759 Please, and I do not mean to be rude, but don't be fooled into thinking the word would spread, and people would work like robots in enough time to power down grids etc... It would only take a couple of grids to effect the others...like dominos. It would take hours to spread the word. Once it hit the MSM people would panic making powering down even harder in many places. Its not enough time. I agree that 17 hrs is not enough time. That is why there is Sonar sound-wave technology actually listening to the sunspot activity on the Sun.... this way we get at least a couple days notice of any dangerous changes and we are rapidly getting to the point where we will get a weeks notice and more. Its all there on the documentary, look at it when you get a chance, another piece of interesting science from the same programme is that we dont actually even power down our transformers, we power em up! Interesting...I'll take a look. |
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Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? ... Quoting: Lady Jane Smith OBTW, we look almost exactly alike -- except I am 5"3", she is 5"7". Waaaaaah!!! Why did I have to be the short one????!!!!!! LOL!! Petite is better, I'm sure most men would agree. I'm 6", BLack belt since I was 17 in Uechi Ryu Karate. I believe you are also a Martial Artist. Maybe you and I will spare some day...just for kicks (pun intended) That would be fun! 3rd Dan WTF/TKD, advanced Krav practitioner. Be forewarned -- I can headshot a 6 ft guy with a jump crescent ;o) I appreciate the warning. I have always enjoyed mixed art sparing. Not so much complete UFC, but Karate/TKD or Karate/Kung-fu etc... I'm a Nidan myself (2nd degree). Don't get to the Dojo as much at this point in my life, but still once or twice a week...occasionally more. I do not sport/ring spar that much any more, other than when instructing. I am more focused in recent years on military style/true self defense training. For folks reading his who may not know the difference, when a roundhouse in thrown in a ring, you are to make contact with the ball or top of foot -- your purpose is to get a point, not kill you fellow competitor. In military style, contact is made with the shin & you stay on top of the opponent wailing the crap out of them. The military type stuff is not typically taught to anyone under 25 (unless they are in the military of course :-P); we are fortunate to have a couple Masters who are former Special Ops they are teaching some lethal mixed stuff to the adult senior black belts. One had me down by the throat a couple weeks ago as he was explaining the technique & taking questions, I could not move, even the slightest move I made ratcheted up the pain exponentially. So much fun to be the crash test dummy, lol! These guys are astonishing in their skill. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 19147018 United States 10/10/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Central Heat and Air Conditioning (Heat Pumps). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1953737 Cold? Carry in wood to burn from the 3 to 6 chords of wood you had to split in the summer/early fall. Hot in the summer, sweat it out on the porch, or find water to cool off in. Mans greatest invention and biggest comfort giver, gone. Most people in the desert would die before they could walk to a more temperate climate. Even without a nuke, there would be hundreds of thousands of corpses in Vegas. Yes, I would miss that most. As the amount of work required simply to regulate our local environment would go from sliding the lever on the thermostat to near full time job. The elderly and weak would perish simply from the temperature extremes placed upon their bodies. Sad outcome to contemplate. That is one I have always puzzled over. When watching so many SHTF movies, it shows people heading to the desert. Why would they show such a thing? The desert is completely deadly & the few folks who have the knowledge for desert survival would have to eliminate those hoards, who might do such an unwise thing, for their own survival. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
indiandave User ID: 12897990 United States 10/10/2012 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? Central Heat and Air Conditioning (Heat Pumps). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1953737 Cold? Carry in wood to burn from the 3 to 6 chords of wood you had to split in the summer/early fall. Hot in the summer, sweat it out on the porch, or find water to cool off in. Mans greatest invention and biggest comfort giver, gone. Most people in the desert would die before they could walk to a more temperate climate. Even without a nuke, there would be hundreds of thousands of corpses in Vegas. Yes, I would miss that most. As the amount of work required simply to regulate our local environment would go from sliding the lever on the thermostat to near full time job. The elderly and weak would perish simply from the temperature extremes placed upon their bodies. Sad outcome to contemplate. Very few people lived in the desert until the 1920's when air conditioning became possible. In a Carrington type event, The desert would revert to being an inhospitable place. I think you're right about what would happen to places like Las Vegas. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25196431 United States 10/10/2012 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? 17 hours, thats correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2038759 Please, and I do not mean to be rude, but don't be fooled into thinking the word would spread, and people would work like robots in enough time to power down grids etc... It would only take a couple of grids to effect the others...like dominos. It would take hours to spread the word. Once it hit the MSM people would panic making powering down even harder in many places. Its not enough time. I agree that 17 hrs is not enough time. That is why there is Sonar sound-wave technology actually listening to the sunspot activity on the Sun.... this way we get at least a couple days notice of any dangerous changes and we are rapidly getting to the point where we will get a weeks notice and more. Its all there on the documentary, look at it when you get a chance, another piece of interesting science from the same programme is that we dont actually even power down our transformers, we power em up! Interesting...I'll take a look. They have a 144 hour window from knowing and the arrival. Yes they have accurate predicting methods, accustic is one and also nuetrino levels miles down the Earths surface will interact 72 hours prior to the flare eruption. Basically the one that knocks it all out will be known six days in advance. This is ample time for power and control to be established by a few, while the rest are clueless. "Continuity of the human race" and all that defence. I would say general population would have 24 hour notice at max. The world would be in chaos for 6 months to a year before the ones who fled with the power re-emerged to reign in the decimated population. This is because there is not enough replacement parts, or reserved energy to effectivly rebuild the power grid within any reasonable time. Me, I would miss the expectaion of security and saftey I have when I sleep. Nothing else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24643678 Canada 10/10/2012 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If a Carrington Event happened today and the Grid(s) world wide were gone for good, what would you miss most of all? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6406905 Petite is better, I'm sure most men would agree. I'm 6", BLack belt since I was 17 in Uechi Ryu Karate. I believe you are also a Martial Artist. Maybe you and I will spare some day...just for kicks (pun intended) That would be fun! 3rd Dan WTF/TKD, advanced Krav practitioner. Be forewarned -- I can headshot a 6 ft guy with a jump crescent ;o) I appreciate the warning. I have always enjoyed mixed art sparing. Not so much complete UFC, but Karate/TKD or Karate/Kung-fu etc... I'm a Nidan myself (2nd degree). Don't get to the Dojo as much at this point in my life, but still once or twice a week...occasionally more. I do not sport/ring spar that much any more, other than when instructing. I am more focused in recent years on military style/true self defense training. For folks reading his who may not know the difference, when a roundhouse in thrown in a ring, you are to make contact with the ball or top of foot -- your purpose is to get a point, not kill you fellow competitor. In military style, contact is made with the shin & you stay on top of the opponent wailing the crap out of them. The military type stuff is not typically taught to anyone under 25 (unless they are in the military of course :-P); we are fortunate to have a couple Masters who are former Special Ops they are teaching some lethal mixed stuff to the adult senior black belts. One had me down by the throat a couple weeks ago as he was explaining the technique & taking questions, I could not move, even the slightest move I made ratcheted up the pain exponentially. So much fun to be the crash test dummy, lol! These guys are astonishing in their skill. sooo hot. |