Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,701 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 2,084,277
Pageviews Today: 2,891,633Threads Today: 565Posts Today: 12,655
08:39 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Does the Bible support reincarnation???

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16782114
Canada
10/10/2012 10:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
John 9

1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?


---

How could the man have sinned in the womb, if their question wasn't a reference to a previous life?

---

Matt. 17:10-13

And the disciples asked him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

But he answered them and said, "Elijah indeed is to come and will restore all things. But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also shall the Son of Man suffer at their hand."

Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist.


Read that again...
"I say to you that Elijah has come already."
"Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist."

Seems pretty clear to me.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17888588
United States
10/10/2012 10:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
And no one here has disputed yet that the two witnesses in Revelation are Moses and Elijah. How can that be if they are not REINCARNATED?!!!!!

When Jesus came back and was resurrected his disciples did not recognize him. NO ONE can answer for certain WHY. They didn't realize it was him until he did or said certain things. He didn't look the same. This has always puzzled me.

Then there are a few instances where he DID look the same such as when he appeared in the upper room and showed Thomas his wounds.
There are many puzzles in the bible and that is why it requires so much studying.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17888588
United States
10/10/2012 10:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
John 9

1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?


---

How could the man have sinned in the womb, if their question wasn't a reference to a previous life?

---

Matt. 17:10-13

And the disciples asked him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

But he answered them and said, "Elijah indeed is to come and will restore all things. But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also shall the Son of Man suffer at their hand."

Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist.


Read that again...
"I say to you that Elijah has come already."
"Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist."

Seems pretty clear to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16782114


Thank you, thank you! Some Christians just refuse to see it. They don't WANT to see it because they would rather listen and be spoon fed by the pastor rather than really thinking about it or reading it. It is as plain as day.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3405890
United States
10/10/2012 10:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
And no one here has disputed yet that the two witnesses in Revelation are Moses and Elijah. How can that be if they are not REINCARNATED?!!!!!

When Jesus came back and was resurrected his disciples did not recognize him. NO ONE can answer for certain WHY. They didn't realize it was him until he did or said certain things. He didn't look the same. This has always puzzled me.

Then there are a few instances where he DID look the same such as when he appeared in the upper room and showed Thomas his wounds.
There are many puzzles in the bible and that is why it requires so much studying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


They are not reincarnated...they are simply in a spirit form
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24380485
United States
10/10/2012 10:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Yes, it does. There are several verses that allude to it.

Of course, most churches don't talk about those verses and cherry pick their preachings and teachings.
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

User ID: 25265704
United States
10/10/2012 10:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
And no one here has disputed yet that the two witnesses in Revelation are Moses and Elijah. How can that be if they are not REINCARNATED?!!!!!

When Jesus came back and was resurrected his disciples did not recognize him. NO ONE can answer for certain WHY. They didn't realize it was him until he did or said certain things. He didn't look the same. This has always puzzled me.

Then there are a few instances where he DID look the same such as when he appeared in the upper room and showed Thomas his wounds.
There are many puzzles in the bible and that is why it requires so much studying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588
...hate to break it to ya but the bible is metaphors,if you were spirit instead of a beast you would know that..beasts are creations,as long as you see yourself as a creation by someone else you are no better than a beast whom has to have a master...does your collar fit well and is your leash long enough? for you are bound on earth as you will be bound in heaven..
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24752810
United States
10/10/2012 10:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24752810
United States
10/10/2012 10:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
This thread is quite comical. You gentiles have NO UNDERSTANDING of the bible. It's embarrassing.

Once again, Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16782114
Canada
10/10/2012 11:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Well I have heard from many people that the Bible does support reincarnation Do you think TPTB are hiding the verses that support reincarnation from us to keep us in fear because if we get out of line we're going to hell and no second chances.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323412


Yes, because fear immobilizes a person. Ask any athlete if they perform better or worse if they're constantly afraid of making a mistake. They beauty of mass fear is that the tptb/religion/whoever do not need to be around at all times to enforce their idiotic dictates. There's plenty of joe citizens that are more than happy to enforce the rules on their neighbours lest they be cast out for not stopping the sinning. The current global "war on terror" is the same game as "you could go to Hell"... fear for everyone, be quick to turn in any suspected "terrorists" because you might die if they succeed. Be quick to cast out any sinners because you might burn for eternity by your lack of effort to enforce "god's will."

It's a simple game:

1) Obey the master that's told you the rules.

2) You can only get interpretation of the rules from the master.

3) The master can change the rules at any given time, and there's nothing you can do about it because you've already accepted #1 and #2.
Esoteric Morgan
...in awe of many things

User ID: 3539589
United States
10/10/2012 11:03 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
This is so ridiculous. Reincarnation is an absolute FACT. People who don't believe it just don't WANT to believe it but it is REAL.
I am a Christian. When the Sadducees asked Jesus about it, he did NOT reply and tell them "that is ridiculous" or anything. It was a legitimate question and he understood it. But there are always folks who want to steer people from the truth.

I am a Christian and firmly believe in it. However, I do not necessarily believe that EVERYONE is reincarnated. I believe it is at the discretion of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17888588


hf
flashlight

User ID: 24419775
United States
10/10/2012 11:08 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Soultraps....google it.
we will be back
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1568805
...not if you overcome the world with the revealed manna and then receive the hidden manna..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


Ceti. <3 ur posts. But I disagree with you on this. Your manna is an interpreted signal which you express incorrectly. This ark of yours, is not as real as you think it is.

Expand your conciousness outside of words.

Words. Invisible, created with purpose to change another's thoughts, beliefs and actions, the words virtually force one to agree with the manipulator's point of view, give them what they want, do what they ask and buy what they are selling. Words are so reasonable, so logical, so believable that one's response is almost automatic.

Their enormous power lies in what the words MEAN to the person who hears them. They trigger concepts, ideas, memories, situations, circumstances, actions, thoughts and feelings from one's subconscious mind into corresponding emotional responses toward the subject at hand.

Consequently, the decisions based on them are NOT based on truth, common sense, logic, legality, one's best interests or right and wrong.

The truth lies in real gnosis. You have to expand your conciousness beyond that which you can express in this dimension.
I am a disciple of my mind.
Morning Cup Of Doom

User ID: 20524828
United States
10/10/2012 11:11 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Jesus said
It is appointed man one time to die and then the judgment.

no re-incarnation sorry...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326803


Is that what your pastor told you...Study Bible history there are many interpretations of scripture as there people on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323412

That passage of scripture is pretty easy to understand. In context it was regarding the specific question of reincarnation.

You clearly have an agenda... as you are not interested in facts or truth.
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382


There is plenty of proof that entire books of the bible were left out. There was obviously good reason for them to do this.
Passin' Through

User ID: 14422899
United States
10/10/2012 11:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
John 9

1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?


---

How could the man have sinned in the womb, if their question wasn't a reference to a previous life?

---

Matt. 17:10-13

And the disciples asked him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

But he answered them and said, "Elijah indeed is to come and will restore all things. But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also shall the Son of Man suffer at their hand."

Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist.


Read that again...
"I say to you that Elijah has come already."
"Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist."

Seems pretty clear to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16782114



There were two people that God took to heaven with him without them dying. One was Elijah. The other was Enoch.

The bible says that is appointed to man once to die and then the judgement.

Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses.

And there is regeneration in the Bible, but no reincarnation.
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16782114
Canada
10/10/2012 11:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
The bible says that is appointed to man once to die and then the judgement.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


A man to die once.... a man. A flesh and blood man dies once. Is the soul flesh and blood too? Is the soul "a man?" Or is the soul energy, able to pick up another flesh and blood body the way you pick out a new t-shirt every day? A man dies once, but the soul is eternal and never dies.
Anaiah

User ID: 20652506
United States
10/10/2012 11:33 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Jesus said
It is appointed man one time to die and then the judgment.

no re-incarnation sorry...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326803


Is that what your pastor told you...Study Bible history there are many interpretations of scripture as there people on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323412

That passage of scripture is pretty easy to understand. In context it was regarding the specific question of reincarnation.

You clearly have an agenda... as you are not interested in facts or truth.
 Quoting: THE TRUTH 24808382


There is plenty of proof that entire books of the bible were left out. There was obviously good reason for them to do this.
 Quoting: Morning Cup Of Doom


Tanakh
(Jewish Bible)
(24 books)
Protestant
Old Testament
(39 books)
Catholic
Old Testament
(46 books)
Eastern Orthodox
Old Testament
(51 books)

Council of Nicea 1 and 2, Council of Trent, Council of Laodicea.

Between the pseudepigrapha, the apocrypha, the septuigint, the dead sea scrolls, and the gospels found in the Nag Hammadi library, there are roughly 200 'christian' texts which have been removed from the modern iteration of the King James Bible, and the number fluctuates from bible to bible and sect to sect, of course.

Seriously. Fucking study. Don't just plow blindly in and act like you're the last word on things. Like the guy for instance who said that about 'their god' having books removed: Look at the difference in bible books there is amongst bibles EVEN NOW. For someone with such a christian looking avatar, I'd hazard to say you wouldn't want to say that about YOUR god, and are thus speaking from a place of ignorance. Inform yourself. Knowledge is power. Get some.
As above, So below.
flashlight

User ID: 24419775
United States
10/10/2012 11:35 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
2 councils of nicea?!?!

I'm listening
I am a disciple of my mind.
flashlight

User ID: 24419775
United States
10/10/2012 11:38 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
nevermind, not what I thought u were talking about.

Last Edited by flashlight on 10/10/2012 11:39 PM
I am a disciple of my mind.
William_the_Bloody

User ID: 20712268
United States
10/11/2012 12:28 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
The Bible clearly denies reincarnation:

Heb 9:27 "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1291048


Doesn't get any clearer than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13039567


You, the entity you are right now, will die once, and when your spirit reaches a waiting place, it will be judged. All NDEs report a judgement process, a replay of their life.

Then from there they "decide" what needs to be worked out and reincarnate from that information.

Or so they say.

Either way, you have one line, and other people have 15. They win.

Some people have died more than once, thus negating your passage anyway. It's poetic license
Kaleidose

User ID: 23898311
United States
10/11/2012 12:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Resurrection
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22054163
United States
10/11/2012 01:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Yes and this is why the Gospel is such Good News.

His Word are Spirit....

He was The Word of God manifested in the flesh for the purpose of given us "The Way" by His Truth..He is "The Truth" and "The Way"......unto Life Everlasting. That any one who believes in Him upon Hearing or receiving His Word shall be Saved redeemed from death and sealed with in them....the new spirit of life they are given that is Life Everlasting.

These who have died to this world and their flesh and unto sin...through His death and resurrection that brought forth and to pass this Way and Life unto them....shall not see death but hath Life and has it which is Everlasting Life.

The have no need of a new birth from their dead or asleep body....being awaken to life. for they have Everlasting Life in their newness of Life they are a new creature.

Even though they still are a little lower than the angles here in this earth and in a vessel of flesh still..

When they put off this flesh and are no longer present in the seen flesh world.....they are present with Christ.

They can not die. The second death is only unto those who reminded asleep in their life of flesh here and never....were resurrected by the Power of The Word of god Which is Spirit and Life...to quicken them from death the sleep of death in their flesh state....that had not been born again.

These accepted not The Word of god that Gospels of Truth and Life unto them....they reject it for a lie instead that they loved.

These when they die physically are already black in soul and never have been giving The Light of Life unto them quickened with this new Life which is Light and no darkness is there or in it..
Black wandering stars.....they had the opportunity to be quickened but they refused its Light which is Life everlasting unto them..

These shall enter the second death upon leaving their flesh state here they enter the eternal judgement upon their death...that awaits them.

Once to die and then the judgment appointed unto all men.

But if we have received our salvation it is Salvation from that second death....we then are not appointed any second death...nor stand in the judgment as one given over to the second death ....one that entered death dead of spirit and black of their living soul.

That is why Paul says for us who are Saved and have believed on and in Him who has the Life in Him and can Quicken whom ever He chooses to Quicken..with His life He that is of and by Him.

The dead are not in Christ...For God is not the God of the dead....but of the living. there are none in God that are dead. Christ is the Light of Life and his Words He spoke unto us were that Spirit and it was Life unto all who heard and believed upon it.

These shall upon death be present with the Lord...they are not dead....nor enter the death of their flesh body into the second death that is eternal.

The only ones who are dead in Christ are those whose names are still written in the Lamb book of Life....from the foundations of this World...

They have not been Quickened and born again into the newness of Life the new Spirit new creature...everlasting life.

That is why it is so important that these men called ministers...cannot leave this earth. These ministering men are ministering spirits born again of Light...these men are not wandering black stars but the stars of light....these men are sons of God..begotten by the same Word of God that Gospel that quickened them.
They have went forth and on their feet they carry this Gospel and have sowed this seed unto many sons and daughters.....and that Seed when it falls into their good ground which is their heart opened unto it and hoped in it and received it.....these were quickened unto Life everlasting by that Seed of the Word of God the Power and the Effectual "Resurrection' of Christ and by Christ who is that Word of God which is spirit and life unto them..that worked in them born again a son or a daughter unto God.


Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by The Word of God..and who can we believe except we hear The Gospel by power and this by Spirit. We are added unto the body of Christ and new child of God.

That is why the ministering ones who are prepared and their feet shod with the Everlasting Gospel....will not leave this world until all those who are lying in the sleep dead in Christ but He Christ will not allow them to remain dead.

When the last one of these are raised up in the new birth. Then those left standing that ministered unto mankind...can be enter into the presence where ll of us will remain and that is in the presence of Christ.

This is one reason why Satan himself tries so hard to corrupt the Gospel and stalks after the man who would be a minister of light like a roaring lion his adversary.....and instead Satan fervently tries to flood the earth with black wandering stars..just like Him that evil original spirit back star of death is Satan all angels are ministering spirits.

But not all are of God and the Light of God..but are ministers of death and blackness no light in them...they are children of the devil....liars and murdering mankind with their lies....they offer unto them instead of the Truth.
Stealing their crown of Life that was laid up for them.

These ministers of Christ are sons of God they are in the flesh now and a little lower than the angels just as Jesus was when he came down in flesh manifested as Jesus Christ our Lord unto us..
These minsters in flesh temples will raise up to when they leave this temporal flesh realm..they are only here and a little lower than the angels because of their flesh....and this for the purpose to minster the Gospel and carry it to all for Life.

They go to and fro from all corners of this earth gathering those....who still lay asleep in Christ and have not been born again quicken with Life everlasting which is Light gift of Life from the father of light. These are awaiting to be born again....their names are still there in the Lambs book of Life.

But when the whole harvest is reaped and brought in all those sons and daughters are raised up in newness of life..

We all are gone unto where he has went which is heaven the eternal home where our father dwells and also our Christ.
we go up into the air up to meet them and be there up...to always be there and go not out any of us ever gains..none shall leave out from their new estate.


Blessed is the one who cometh in the name of the Lord and his feet shod with the everlasting Gosple of peace and Life Everlasting.......because we are all going home and going to be with those who have already went home. We all finally are redeemed by this same Salvation common unto all men.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1654636
United States
10/11/2012 04:47 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
no
Menosgada

User ID: 19173798
Germany
10/11/2012 08:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
:Imwithstupid:
no
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1654636

Trying to get as much space as possible between me....and people
bargoose

User ID: 25359893
United Kingdom
10/11/2012 08:26 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
I say yes, and here's why;

Reicarnation is linked in with karma, that you suffer or enjoy according to your past works. What you do in this life determines what you get in your next.( explains a lot of the suffering we see.)

Here are some Bible quotes that to me, support reincarnation.

One of the disciples to Jesus said " Master, this blind man, who did sin so that he was BORN blind? Was it him or his parents?"

Some more;

"Whatsover a man sows, that he will also reap"

"He who kills with the sword must die by the sword"

"An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth"

So yeah , we keep incarnating in this hellish dimension and suffer or enjoy according to how we treat other living beings.

The only way you hack this matrix of birth/death cycles is to evolve spiritually, be compassionate, and realise this is one big trick. A grand illusion. Then, we can be liberated to the heavenly realm.
On the path of least resistance
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1637551
United States
10/11/2012 08:36 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
No coming back, no second chances morans.....so get right...Jesus is the way and the life....no one gets to heaven except through Jesus.
oLOVEz
User ID: 25266632
United States
10/11/2012 08:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
"With God, all things are possible".
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1580547
United States
10/11/2012 08:54 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
No!! When we die, we don't come back as a tree, or dog, or other creature, etc.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 23343731
Australia
10/11/2012 08:58 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
This thread is quite comical. You gentiles have NO UNDERSTANDING of the bible. It's embarrassing.

Once again, Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24752810


Yes, so once the man die, then the judgement. Doesn't mean the man die only once. But once he die, there be the weighing of the heart and he goes forward in the plan or back for more lessons.

Or, you could say, it was once appointed unto men to die. Which is true; once, in the time of the original sin, it was appointed unto men to die.

There are always several ways to read what Paul says. Greek was a subtle language, too.
William_the_Bloody

User ID: 20712268
United States
10/11/2012 10:56 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
No coming back, no second chances morans.....so get right...Jesus is the way and the life....no one gets to heaven except through Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637551


Many people think that being "Born AGain" means the Holy Spirit descends from the Heavens and enters your body when you're baptized or pray with the preacher on television, and the next thing you know...POW...you're super Chirstian who needs to chastize others and walk around like you're high on ether, such is your new connection to Christ.

All that is Psychological and ego based, and Satan is more than happy to provide those doctrines and substitute feelings so that people are mislead and decieved, when they wear off they think Christ and religion are sillier than ever, and they become raging atheists when something goes wrong in their lives.

I've seen it time and time again.

The truth is this:

We are Sinful and Evil, and we can either realize this, own it and wish we werent or we can deny it, pretend we are good and revel in our decadence.

If we own it and wish we weren't, we come to the conclusion that we need help, and we call on Jesus Christ.

The part where we are saved is through the Karma of the Sacrifice of Christ. It washes away our Sin/Karma so that one of two things can happen when we die:

1. We simply avoid reincarnating again in this dispensation and we join others like us in the Astral plane where we await resurrection in paradise.

2. We are "Born again" (REincarnation) "Of the Spirit" which means we are placed into lives where we can truly be Christ-like and get to the place where the folk from #1 reside.

The Pious of other religions will be reborn into Christian circumstances.

This is the truth about Christ and Reincarnation as has been revealed to me through study and prayer. I believe if you study and pray on it too, you will inevitably reach the same conclusion.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21363812
Canada
10/11/2012 11:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Well I have heard from many people that the Bible does support reincarnation but verses that did were taken out of the Bible over the years.


My question is:

Does the Bible supported or has supported the idea of reincarnation?



If yes



Do you think TPTB are hiding the verses that support reincarnation from us to keep us in fear because if we get out of line we're going to hell and no second chances.


PS:I have heard that the early Christians firmly believed in reincarnation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323412


OP, the earliest Christians, known as the Gnostics, believed in reincarnation and the pre-existence of the soul. They did not believe in a resurrection of corpses at the end of time.

The New Testament is a compilation of writings by many anonymous writers (for example, all the gospels are anonymously written, along with many of Paul's letters are forgeries), and none of the authors were eye witnesses nor were they contemporaries of Jesus, i.e. they all wrote many decades after his death.

If your goal is to glean more information about what the earliest Christians believed, then the Gnostic writings is where you'd start.

If your goal is to understand current Christian theology and how/why it came about (depending on what sect of Christianity you're interested in - they all differ in theology), For the "how" - you'd have to study all the Christian writings (non-canonical, Apocrypha, etc) that were once considered sacred but were omitted from the canon, of which there are hundreds. For the "why" - a study into the political climate of Rome, the founding of the Roman Church, and Constantine's involvement in the canonization process.

It's not an easy question you've posed in terms of a one-off answer :) Historians, scholars and theologians STILL argue over this.

Happy studying!

Kismet
Anaiah

User ID: 20652506
United States
10/11/2012 12:48 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Does the Bible support reincarnation???
Many people think that being "Born AGain" means the Holy Spirit descends from the Heavens and enters your body when you're baptized or pray with the preacher on television, and the next thing you know...POW...you're super Chirstian who needs to chastize others and walk around like you're high on ether, such is your new connection to Christ.

All that is Psychological and ego based, and Satan is more than happy to provide those doctrines and substitute feelings so that people are mislead and decieved, when they wear off they think Christ and religion are sillier than ever, and they become raging atheists when something goes wrong in their lives.

I've seen it time and time again.

The truth is this:

We are Sinful and Evil, and we can either realize this, own it and wish we werent or we can deny it, pretend we are good and revel in our decadence.

If we own it and wish we weren't, we come to the conclusion that we need help, and we call on Jesus Christ.

The part where we are saved is through the Karma of the Sacrifice of Christ. It washes away our Sin/Karma so that one of two things can happen when we die:

1. We simply avoid reincarnating again in this dispensation and we join others like us in the Astral plane where we await resurrection in paradise.

2. We are "Born again" (REincarnation) "Of the Spirit" which means we are placed into lives where we can truly be Christ-like and get to the place where the folk from #1 reside.

The Pious of other religions will be reborn into Christian circumstances.

This is the truth about Christ and Reincarnation as has been revealed to me through study and prayer. I believe if you study and pray on it too, you will inevitably reach the same conclusion.
 Quoting: William_the_Bloody


Thank you, this is the exact same thing that studying the bible every day for over a decade led me to, as well.
As above, So below.

News